Cleaning-up Site Naming
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Published: May 27, 2015



As mentioned in last week’s
Beginnings of Site Simplification journal and the new DeviantArt Timeline, we’ve spent a lot of time thinking about how to make DeviantArt a simplified and unified experience — ultimately leading to increased participation from new and longtime deviants, adding more favourites, comments, and deviousness to the site as a whole.

Because DeviantArt has been around for nearly 15 years, we recognize that the site has accumulated a number of terms, words, and names for our various features and functions — some of which have multiple or similar meanings, and many of which increase confusion around how the site works.

We understand that DeviantArt is a community of artists from around the world who will use all kinds of creative expressions to describe numerous things and activities on DeviantArt.  We are not suggesting any uniformity in language used by the community, and are only dealing with navigation labels used on the website — not what deviants choose to call things on their own.


Getting Started

To kick off the site simplification process, we’ve updated a handful of naming conventions across DeviantArt — both the desktop site and mobile Web — with the goal of making the site cleaner and easier to use.  The truth is, many of these changes are small and likely not even noticeable to the average deviant!  These updates aren’t about adding or removing features, but are instead about cleaning up inconsistencies and having a clearer interface and navigation.


Watch

Before MySpace had "friends" and Twitter had "followers," DeviantArt had "watch" — a term that's been around since the early days of the site.  But as the site grew, we introduced several variations of the term, all essentially meaning the same thing, increasing confusion for deviants and inconsistencies on interfaces.  Today, we’re consolidating everything into “watch.”  The “+watch” button on profile pages now says “watch" and instances of “deviantWATCH” on profiles and in messages are now also labeled as “watch.”

As mentioned in our Beginnings of Site Simplification journal, we’ll soon be splitting watch and notifications — two distinct functions — into separate sections, but this change won’t be happening in the next few weeks.




Deviants

Deviants, the term for members of DeviantArt, is a strong term that we feel has a lot of meaning. On DeviantArt, you are a deviant. There are a few areas of the site that refer to deviants as “users” or “members,” and those have been cleaned up. The term “Premium Members” will be an exception for now.


Notifications

As features and functions were added to the site, the messages area on DeviantArt ballooned over time.  While we acknowledge that it needs a major overhaul, we’re taking a few small steps to begin that revamp. Over the next few days, we’ll be renaming the term “messages” and “inbox” to “notifications.”

Consuming art and other content submitted by the people you watch is a completely separate experience than when you’re replying to comments or checking how many people recently favourited your deviations. These two experiences need to be separated out and redesigned so that each of them is optimized for their distinct function. This change will be happening in the near future.

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Coming soon:


Simpler, Still Devious :p (Lick)

Our mission as a website is clear: to entertain, inspire, and empower the artist in all of us.  From offering new tools for artists to developing more ways to discover each other, everything we work on is driven by this goal, and we've planned big things for 2015 and beyond.  But first, we need to turn down the noise and focus on simplicity — creating a DeviantArt that is clear and welcoming to all.




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Margaryta-H's avatar
Very nice!

Please, check my Behance profile

I am web designer
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qIimmer's avatar
Yes !! >:333c
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PokemonRulesPikaa's avatar
PokemonRulesPikaa|Hobbyist General Artist
I genuinely do not like what is going on here. 
The site is going downhill fast. I've been here for 2 years but now it's getting on my nerves,  if this site will become a crappy facebook-knockoff, I might as well leave. 

Also, on my second account I cannot splinter/unsplinter my menu, which is VERY annoying. 
I'd rather have a clean sight over my notifications and have my comments and favorites separate from all the other stuff I don't need.

I have no problems with the app. But the browser version is getting really bad, you're trying to make this 'fit in' with the other CHAT social media, it looks like. But ding, ding, ding, this is NOT a CHAT site. This is an art site. Why would you try to simplify this site? 
This is an art site, most people who know how to draw, and do other kinds of art are perfectly FINE with the last versions. You shouldn't simplify a site for MATURE people. This site was great however it was, Do not make this a chat site, people can easily make a Reddit account, a facebook account or twitter account if they want to chat. This is an ART SITE. 
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IllyDragonflyEdited |Hobbyist General Artist
Hi :iconheidi: ! Talking about making things simplier...
Forgive me. You want to clear the site naming... and now you add ANOTHER deviation stack in our message box, for our groups submissions? Help me understanding the idea. Where is the sense??????? :confused:

Plus, why a 'watch' button under any deviation? Is that DIFFICULT checking the artist page (so you can visit him/her, it's pretty even just to check the gallery, the artist's favourites, to give him/her a llama or just some pageviews)? Pushing 'watch' here will make you spare like 0,5 seconds! Was that really necessary? 

Again, for these changes why you don't submit them to the beta testers? We can give you a good feedback, totally for free and you can change things still, but fixing possible problems.

Sorry if I sound polemic, but as we say "Preach good and bad scratching"? If you want to be simple, KEEP IT simple.
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Empressness2015|Hobbyist General Artist
Reminding children that they are not on a debate forum would also go a long way to clearing up the site.
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coffeenoir|Hobbyist General Artist
Not liking some of these changes, I liked having a differentiation from messages and inbox. I do not care for everything being a "notification" I also do not like that my groups "notifications" are not on my inbox page anymore but on my "watch" page. I think that we, as deviants, should be able to change this. 
I want my deviantart back. I want my deviantart logo back as well :devart:
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ToddNTheShiningSword|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think all you have to do here to keep a lot of people happy is change all the names like you wanted to, but change the name "Notifications" back to "Messages".
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AranySzirom's avatar
Premium Deviants should be a thing :P
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PantherPL|Hobbyist Writer
My browser bookmark says "Messages - DeviantArt" and it will stay like that til' all Hell freezes over. I mean, seriously? WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?!
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OrionisZetainc|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can I please have the option to change it back to 'messages'?
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BubbleDriver|Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would reeeally appreciate if we had an option of changing the date of our birthdays , that and the block function of viewing the page and art at all would be fantastic!
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AnnaTheBanna's avatar
This doesn't really relate to this at all, but I just want to say.. when I first joined DA (2 years ago) it felt like such a friendly place, you know post your art like everyone else, comment/fav/watch like everyone else. That was the main idea. You where happy to see other's talents as well as people noticing your talents.
Though now, DA doesn't feel as 'friendly' anymore, all these comments of hate like on this one. I feel like what caused this site to raise so much heat was creating news articles like this and allowing deviants to make comments on them. Everyone has different opinions, so that causes a debate, and debates cause anger and jealously.
Now we're distracted from what DA really is about. We're to focused on what people are thinking rather then what their talents are.
Weather you change this or not, not everyone going to be happy, im sure you know that, and I bet that's difficult.

Basically what Im saying is that was why I joined DA. ^It prob doesnt make sense, sorry im bad with words and explaining things.
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VioletRosePetals|Hobbyist General Artist
I've been around on the site for more than 8 years under one name or another, and I can tell you that the angry comments are nothing new. The only difference is now they're a lot more public.

Before when they would make changes, they wouldn't tell anyone, and they would release all the changes all at once. You'd log in one morning and the site's completely different, the buttons are everywhere, and you'd just have to get used to it. Sometimes there would be a hot topic explaining a few things and you'd be able to leave a comment there, but the majority of the time if you had a complaint, you sent it via note to someone you knew worked for DA or filed a help desk ticket.

Considering all of that, I personally much prefer this system, because the updates are smaller and we are told ahead of time so we know to expect them. Also, we deviants are better heard. There are a lot of decent ideas in the 'sea of trolls' and believe it or not, the DA staff does their best to sort through the comments they recieve to fish the good ones out.

You are right, the debates and arguments some get into distract from the art. But that is the choice of the individuals involved in the argument, and also those who read the arguments. Unfortunately no matter where you go there will be trolls and unsatisfied squeaky wheels. I find it best in most cases to let them go on trolling and squeaking, and just continue to create more art.

The friendliness is still there, so don't give up on the community! It's just found more in groups and through leaving and responding to comments on artwork and personal journals. Like many things, what you give is what you get, and if you focus on being positive, then positivity will be returned to you. :)
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Yes so true(:, and you know I noticed the thing about the people who are all like 'they don't listen us' lol though that's like 500+ of different requests for the company to look at, they arn't super humans.
But hey Thanks for letting me know(: basically rookie misunderstanding, so I try to not be like the know it all. Positivity is the key (: 👌
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VioletRosePetals|Hobbyist General Artist
Lol no worries, just glad I could help. :) Hope you enjoy it here on DA.
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ToddNTheShiningSword|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually, it was always like this in places like this. I joined dA 5 years ago, and the site changes areas were always a good place to go if you want to find hate. This part of dA was never too friendly, since they were about debate, and debate does just what you say.

So dA actually hasn't gotten any less friendly in the past 2 years. :D
:dalove:
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AnnaTheBanna's avatar
Good to know(: thanks
And ya its so true, lol there are two kinds of people
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ToddNTheShiningSword|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There are? :O_o: :XD:
You mean people that are ON dA and people that AREN'T? =P
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SilverGuest|Student Digital Artist
Make the block function block them also viewing your art or page :C
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Speedy1236|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Since you mentioned the watch feature... When I joined the site a couple years ago, I was really confused what it had to do with the friends widget I saw on many deviants' profiles. I thought I could somehow add people I knew as friends, but there was no button or the like to do it. Much later, I discovered that when I watch people, I could add them as friends that way. To the day, it seems kind of unclear to me. The feature is called watch. I watch a lot of deviants I don't know very well, but there are a few deviants I've known for a while that I consider friends. I don't quite get the connection between watching and being friends. Of course I watch my friends. But not everyone I watch is a friend, and while you can uncheck the 'add to friend list' option, it is still hard for newcomers to even find the friend option. Maybe something can be made clearer there? Perhaps it's possible to include an 'add friend' option to the friends widget itself? Like you can submit art directly from the Newest Deviantions widget, for example.
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Sisck79's avatar
MASS DELETE FUNCTION!!
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ArtOfShade| General Artist
It would be really cool if u made it possible to submit art into multiple groups somehow, when u need to submit art in more than 5 groups it becomes really tiring :/
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InCenter's avatar
I just wish bullying would stop... They come at you pretending to be your friends at first...
I Love This Site So Much - But now, it is difficult to fully trust anyone!?!
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