Fuck you. Pay me. -- A masterpost for artists.
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Published: February 2, 2013
As an artist, you probably will be approached by various people over time. Some may be looking for commissions, others will most likely be looking for free art.

Here are some handy resources concerning the "free art"-people. First of all, there's this handy flowchart called "Should I Work For Free?.

If they say they'll pay you with:

-Exposure
-Eventual cut of the profit when profits are made
-No pay, since artists "shouldn't be sell-outs, but draw for fun"

Then run for the hills and get away as fast as you can.
Because if it's for a game, a comic or another for-profit project, the most normal response should be "Fuck you. Pay me." (worded politer, though that goes without saying).


Spec-work? -- Fuck you. Pay me.
"We don't have the budget for 20 sprite-sheets, but we'll sell this game and your name will be in the credits!" -- Fuck you. Pay me.
"We need 10 sprites / full paintings by tomorrow, for free please!" -- Fuck you. Pay me.

Or as Ricky Gervais put it:

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Some videos and interesting reads on the topic:
- A Note to You, Should You Be Thinking of Asking Me to Write For You For Free
- A Little More Re: Writing For Free
- Unfinanced Entrepreneurs PART 1 (Brought to my attention by Weissboard, thank you!)
- "Fuck you. Pay me." (VIDEO)

Your art is worth more than you think.It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a person in possession of a good fortune must be in want of art.
If you've ever taken a look at the job-offers part of any forum or site, you'll notice two tendencies that occur online. The first is that a lot of people look for art, some for the cheapest possible price at the best possible quality. The other is that a lot of people are willing to low-ball even more than the initial offer simply to snag the job.
Because if they don't offer cheaper art than the rest, they wouldn't be getting the job, or so the line of thought most likely goes.
You see people selling full-body, detailed renderings for $10, or people who sell pixel art for 50 points. But why?
A reminder should be sent out telling people that their art is worth so much more than they think. And this is why I can highly advise these  journals if you plan to price and sell your art.
Interesting info
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Infamous-Raven's avatar
This is great... I saw this video a few years back when a friend of mine (who is an actual writer) posted this on FB (Harlan Ellison video)because  lot of people asked her to write stories for bunch of stuff for free... 

It is the toughest thing asking for money, especially when people don't respect your profession...

Four years after you posted this and it's still helping artists... Thank you man. 

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Anvonavi's avatar
AnvonaviProfessional Traditional Artist
I guess I need a FuckYouPayMe emoji and/or sticker in every messenger and every website I use:)
Kell0x's avatar
Ive been hit a lot recently with people who are confused that a commission means you have to pay and that exposure isn't payment :/
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MikomicsHobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, once I finish this one I'm working on now, I'm not taking any more free requests.

Charity work sounds like a decent thing to do though... But probably only once I'm better.
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SchechterArts General Artist
Amen.
berryjuss's avatar
berryjussHobbyist Digital Artist
I should have read this before drawing stuff for people I barely knew 
sashaboo100's avatar
My sister sent me this when I wanted them to draw something.



I CAN SEE WHY.
Hardrockangel's avatar
I hope it was helpful. :giggle:
TheAmericanKaiser's avatar
TheAmericanKaiserHobbyist General Artist
So what about the people who just want at least one piece of art from a better artist than themselves to show as nothing short of a simple way for people to see exactly how a character looks?
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jyongyiHobbyist General Artist
I have to say, the same applies to friends as well, because the very few times I ever post a drawing on FB (this is why its very rare) they go all "Oh hey draw me too how come you never draw me hey where is my drawing????" as if I just fart drawings out. Heck even farting on command is difficult, so just because someone is your friend doesn't mean they are special. So kudos to your post!:clap:
Hardrockangel's avatar
Oh yes. Or they ask for something I can't draw at all.
Someone I know asked if I could make a realistic painting of her dog, but with a baby-bonnet on her head, so she could use the image for the baptism cards for her child.

For one: I can't draw dogs (yet, I practice). Secondly: That is well over 8h+ of work.
Thirdly: I had exams at that time! And she got angry at me because I said no. :faint:

It's sad, but this message still needs to be spread because people tend to think artistic work should be done for free and that it's easy.
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jyongyiHobbyist General Artist
Yes and somehow it galls me when people are like you always start out drawing for free because you're not a pro yet, and I'm like excuse me I am using hours of my life where I could be doing something else for your request and its not even a request I feel inspired to do. I don't know about you but for me I have to feel very inspired to draw something, else I'll lose all interest and that particular piece will ferment away on my desk.
Hardrockangel's avatar
Personally, requests can be done, but then only if it's something that interests you and that you would've drawn either way. And even then, personal work and commissions should come first.
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jyongyiHobbyist General Artist
Exactly, and I would do a request if someone asks me nicely (and bribes me with lots of cupcakes but shhh).
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changewindsProfessional General Artist
Thanks for putting it all into one place. Need more people advocating for artists rights!
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Otaku-Chan-266Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, I never thought about that before! Thankyou so much for this helpful information!!!! People who want art for free....ARE DEMONS!!!
Hardrockangel's avatar
I'm glad I could help out!
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sleepyowletHobbyist General Artist
Hell yes. Thank you.
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PersonalGeniusProfessional Traditional Artist
Snuggle me?
Hardrockangel's avatar
I'm not good at snuggling. D:
I can hug, though.
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PersonalGeniusProfessional Traditional Artist
Close enough!
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