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A Little Progress

Journal Entry: Sun Jun 21, 2015, 6:25 AM
This is just more ranting about deviants posting in the wrong (Fractal Resources) category, so feel free to skip it if you're not interested.

So a bit of progress. The miscats (misplaced deviations) have slowed to a trickle. I've been reporting miscats, (which seems to do absolutely no good at all) and also leaving polite notes on the miscat deviation pages, which seems to be helping somewhat. A few deviants have actually commented back that they didn't know or realize... It's very possible there are some language barrier problems. I say this because when I use Google translate to see what the deviant posted in the author comments, the translations often made little sense. So maybe the category's don't make sense to them, I don't know. Unfortunately, some of them just post their items in another wrong category instead.

I did have one deviant that was a bit upset that I left a comment on their page. They were rather rude actually, while my comment and follow up comment was very polite. But it was only the one.

I've been at DA for 6 years now. I haven't had to contact them with a support ticket very often, but when I did it was handled pretty much in a timely manner, until now. My recent support ticket concerning the massive amount of miscats abuse (in the Fractal Resources category) has gone unanswered for 6 days. I thoroughly read the Terms of Service, Etiquette and Copyright policies and feel there are several apparent violations some of these deviants are committing by posting Photo Packs. The most obvious being copyright infringement of course. Apparently DA has the same policy as Pinterest in that as long as a copyright holder does not complain, it is just fine to post copyrighted material without permission.

But that was never even the point with my journals. You can't convince me there is nothing that can be done about deviants constantly posting in the wrong category. That's what the Terms of Service, Etiquette and Copyright policies are for. When people abuse these, it's simply a matter of enforcing your policies. Request that the deviations be moved to the proper category. Give the deviant some time to do this, if they don't, then suspend or ban them. Just simple. What is the point of these policies if you don't enforce them?

Unless of course it's simply a matter of revenue. I suppose it's possible that DA is gaining revenue by allowing these photo packs. And gaining traffic... I suppose it's possible that revenue gains and traffic might... No, I would rather not think that. I'm sure that's not the case. Forget I even mentioned it.

At any rate, there is one item in the Etiquette policy that I would like to bring up:
"The DeviantArt staff will not tolerate attempts to exploit or disrupt the layout, navigability, or general use of the site. Such actions disrupt the ability of the community to access and review artwork and are considered Site Abuse." 

It is clear that posting hundreds of items in the wrong category disrupts the layout, navigability and general use of the Fractal Resources category. So now I ask, why was it again that nothing can be done about it? 

  • Listening to: the wind blow
  • Reading: Neptune Crossing
  • Watching: Horror movies
  • Playing: Minecraft
  • Eating: Nothing
  • Drinking: Diet Coke
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GraphicLia Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015
Ran the little test and what a surprise!! Under my frequently used categories was a "dA suggestion" to use Photography - Other. Clicked it and got two photos that had tiny flowers for this fractal .  Since I used no keywords might they be using a reverse image search like TinEye? If so they are contributing to the issue of miscats.
HalTenny Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015
I just don't know. It might be something as simple as one person started posting there for some reason, and then all their new friends or followers just do the same thinking it's the right place. Looks like it started over a year ago, and now it's so totally cluttered with miscats that no one will bother doing anything about it.
GraphicLia Featured By Owner Edited Jun 22, 2015
Good to hear you aren't meeting with too much abuse - one angry/offended person is enough.

When the artists upload they can compare the image to the samples shown when the category is selected. For fractals they're reasonably representative but I have no idea about the others - might just try picking a few to see what comes up without actually submitting a miscat.
HalTenny Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2015
I guess the aren't paying attention to the sample images for the categories. Unless it's because so many have been posted in the wrong category, that they are actually seeing similar items. That's also possible heh... :)
GraphicLia Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2015
I think the samples are from very popular or some similar criteria. I should think you would (and many others) (not myself) show as examples. I'm noticing a slight leaning towards current and former CV's though. Yep, they wouldn't be finding a match depending on the metrics dA uses, whatever they are it's not random (haven't really paid attention beyond "appropriate" in fractals). I'd fall out of my chair if I saw a miscat as an example though! :foocl: falloutofchairlaughing by darkmoon3636

ps: I am finding inserting the hash tag (#) before each word in my searches is giving better results, at least for newer stuff when they are applied.
Mr-Dave Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Honestly, it looks like the DA folks are too busy with trying to convert the site over to be another FB than they are with keeping the site's integrity.

It's good you brought up the language barrier. Google translate is miserable, and before Yahoo gobbled up Babelfish, it was only slightly better... but it was better back then. It's a shame Google isn't more intent on trying to fix their translate program. It would benefit the world a whole lot more than all those psychos claiming compression artifacts on Google Earth are alien civilizations lol.
HalTenny Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015
I think you're right. :)
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