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(Long journal up ahead.)

Okay, just giving you a little update. I'm aiming for 24 chapters now (orz, I know, right?... Too long...) But such is the story progression... better than me rushing it, and having it suck, right? (Well, for real, I'm at chapter 20 now, and it's only just now getting into the climax-- I am just estimating that it'll be around 24, but it might be more.)

Anyway, I said that to say... that I'm kind of depressed over it.
I mean, that's essentially 16 more chapters than what I already have... (And I have only done 8 (well, almost) in the past 15 years!... lol... Realistically... I have no idea when that will get done, based on my current uploading schedule. (I try to do 1-2 pgs. a week.) Of course, if this was my full-time job, I would have no problem getting out a chapter every month (or two months, if it's super-long, like Chapter 8 is gonna be, lol...). But... it's sadly not. And, I don't really feel comfortable in having people buy a doujinshi since it's officially against the law. (Plus, I don't think I have enough readers/interest to pay for that anyway). I'd like to keep it free, if I can. However, it just stinks, because that means I cannot do it full-time and make lots of pages for you all. I'm still on the fence on what I plan to do with it.

My current schedule: (hypothetically, if it ends up being 24 chapters)
Uploading 1-2pgs a week= One chapter a year (maybe two, if we're lucky, or if they're short).
= 16+ more years. Non-stressful, but loonnngg...

Uploading 7 pages a week= One chapter every two months or so (since they seem to be long...)
= 4+ more years... I doubt that could happen, unless I stress myself... or quit one of my jobs, orz (which I cannot do for a fancomic XD).

Regular manga-ka's schedule:
Uploading/ drawing 1-2 pages a day= One chapter a month.
= 1 1/2-2 years. Yeahhh.... not gonna happen (though I wish it would, lol).

...Well, at least those are better than my old, lax "schedule" which was like... 4 pages a YEAR, lolz. (Yeah, that would never be getting done!)

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I really wanna get it done, but then again, I don't want to:
A.) Stress myself, since this is supposed to be for fun anyway
B.) Rush the artwork or story, then all of that time will be useless if it ends up sucking anyway
C.) Wait too long, and have to rewrite everything all over, because it'll be outdated.
D.) Wait TOO long, and no one is interested in reading it anymore, lol.

I like using TD for practice, like to show/update how my style has changed throughout the years. But I could do that with any manga, srsly...

Real Talk:
A part of me is feeling like TD is holding me back from being a true, pro manga/comic artist. Like, I'll always feel like I'll suck and am 'not good enough' until I finish this and stop doing doujinshis. It's an insecurity of mine, I guess. But, like I said, TD is good practice... but... is that all I care about it for?

No, I like the story of it too; though, it's questionable if others will like the direction it will be going in, later on (but this was the "plot" all along... lol). Honestly, it only had a real 'plot' since like... chapter 3, maybe xDD... It was originally supposed to be a one-shot, maybe 5 chapters, at the most (believe it or not)!
I get carried away in my stories. ^^;

But, it's hard for me to focus on this and another story at the same time. Maybe it's a weakness, I don't know. But it sure is distracting. Maybe once I write it all out, I'll be able to mentally move on to other projects (even though, I could still be drawing this on the side... the writing is the hardest part.)
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Also, another thing that's depressing me about it (well, only a small part of me is depressed about it-- the other side is super-excited/happy!)...
All of the new DBZ content!
... I originally made TD as a homage to the end of GT and DBZ, and ORIGINALLY, it was an ORIGINAL story (I'm talking about where I am now, chapter 20+, in the written chapters). At the time, I never once thought that DBZ would be "revived" in any way with all of the new video games, comics (/side stories like Jaco, etc.) and even new movies/ t.v. specials!! It's actually awesome, really, and I'm super-excited for it!
However... with all of this, all of my (once) original ideas are becoming not so very original anymore?? I've had to change the story a couple of times in the middle (won't tell you where... but you might figure it out later?) because of the new content. I'd like to be as canon as possible, while still being original. However, I know that TD will never be completely canon anyway XD This is just my own little adventure-land, head-canon world, lol. Still, head-canon or fantasy-world, or not, I would still like if it it didn't seem that I was copying other stories! (Though it WAS original at the time...)

As long as they don't make a movie/comic dealing with Present Trunks and Mirai Trunks switching places (and have it be a romantic comedy), I think I'm good xD xD...
Essentially, that's what it is; a romantic comedy, with small fighting parts, which is something that DBZ only had small hints of (but I wish there were more!~~). And who knows-- at this rate, with all of this new stuff, we may get even more~!!

Still, you might see later, how it intercedes and or/connects with some of the current DBZ canon, which used to not be so... but, hey, that's what happens when you work on a fancomic. Stuff can change, if the original author decides to change it.

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And, the last thing that discouraged me a little is... well, I remembered a convo/ q&a thing that an actual mangaka gave to me-- that I respect a SUPER LOT-- and they told me that I should do my own original stuff... instead of doujinshi.
Now, usually it wouldn't matter, but let's just say that this particular manga artist holds a lot of weight for me in his/her words. (And for them to even speak to me/answer my questions, period, was a huge honor!)
I kinda agree with them. I just need to get this story out somehow... ughhhh.......

So... I am really at a loss on what to do. I can't even promise 1-2 pages a week, really. This just so happens that I have a small block of time lately, where I can work on extra stuff. (But I can't guarantee that it'll be here, months down the road...) Let alone, my drive to do this comic again. (Which is why I'm at least trying to write it all out before I lose the drive/motivation again.)

I wanna do what's best for you all, too. I'm trying to imagine myself as a reader, and what I would want. ...If you read all of that, bonus points, lol. I also may be looking for a one-man/woman beta reader??... But I might not use any XD Just wondering if there's any interest XD (I kinda like no one knowing what will go on in my story...). But I will have had to know you for a while, and trust that you won't give out spoilers (and don't MIND being spoiled. lol.)
Most of my motivation for drawing it is to have people guess what will happen next. If I upload the whole story to some, and not others, well, that drive will totally go away, I know it. If it's just one person, it should be okay. But, mehhh......... it's just a maybe. ('Cause I might end up changing the story anyway; but maybe just the latter part, which is not written yet... I kinda like how it is now, up to chapter 20. (I might just do little edits...))

So, why am I continuing to do this?... With no set schedule in mind to finish it?...
I'd hate to completely 'give up' on it, but... realistically... when will it ever get done?
Am I just trying to escape from reality?

... I dunno...

Also, I'm sick again. -_- lol, isn't helping my mood a bit...
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Here's some inspiration though!!
www.wweek.com/portland/article…

“Homer said: ‘Always lead with your best stuff. Always put your best shot up there first.’ It’s great advice. He was a mentor for a lot of guys.” —Richard Blakeslee, filmmaker

“One of the absolute greatest things I have ever heard about the artistic impulse came directly from Homer. He just kind of tossed it off as a whimsical remark, but it stayed with me: ‘The object of painting is not
to cover the wall. It’s to empty the can.’ It’s the perfect impression of the artistic impulse and love. The object is to get this thing out of you. Neither Sophocles nor Shakespeare could have put it better.” —Mahar

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And with that, I'm outie!
/90's quote

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i say do whatever feels right, if it's for fun don't let it stress you out
and also don't stress about finishing it, it's ok to leave things unfinished if you don't have the same drive for the project as you had in the start, especially if it's just a thing you were doing for fun
i enjoy reading it but i'd much rather see some art that you have a passion for making, so don't force it, just write and draw this when you feel like it and if that means not finishing it, so be it 
plus i'd be more excited to see your completely original stories and i don't want fun fan art intended for practice to hold you back from bigger, better projects =D
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Thanks; you really encouraged me :')
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you're welcome, I'm glad I could help! =D
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I started reading Trunks' Date a few years ago so I have not been as invested in it as some (and especially its authors). I would love it if you could finish this story as it is quite enjoyable to read and see. However frankly I think you should put it away for awhile, perhaps indefinitely. If it is holding back your creativity or just becoming a drag then you should focus on your own original content.

If you cannot think of any original story, maybe work on it now and then. If you are absolutely, completely determined to finish this doujinshi then please consider editing and parsing down the story. I don't know what you are planning for Trunks' Date but twenty four chapters seems a bit much. I would cut it down to fifteen chapters perhaps. Just edit out parts that really are not essential to the plot.

Whatever you do Gena you have my complete support. Please just do what you love! Cheerleader 
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Thanks for all of the support and the much-needed advice! Yeah, maybe I oughta cut it down a bit to the "essential" story... It is kind of a drag, but maybe it's because I am dragging it on, myself? Anyways, I do have original stories-- actually, I have way to manyyy, lolz (to draw in my lifetime, unless I become a full time mankaga)-- this is just kind of distracting for me. I super-hate leaving things unfinished (an ocd drawing/writing thing), but... yeah... dunno quite what to do with it just yet. Don't wanna dedicate my whole life to a fanmanga though. Lol. It was originally supposed to be like 16 chapters, buuttt yeahh... lol. Once I started writing the scenes out, it just kinda exploded, lol... but maybe it's a matter of controlling myself, too... so I'll see xD haha. Thanks for the help!
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Doggy-YashaHobbyist General Artist
Your dedication thus far is amazing :D
Though as a fan of the comic (and i hope as a friend XD)... I don't want you to stress out over it, more so since you do have a life and jobs and such. Keep it fun.
I would say start working on other projects and keep this one going when you have time if you still want too XD (you dont have to give it up but as long as its written down you'll be able to come back to it whenever.

As for the new content of DBZ, there is a large part of the fan base where they don't consider GT, new movies and such 'canon' yes they were done or okay'ed by Toriyama but its either too much or it messes up the past (like Jaco.. you great big pile of crap for Bardock's story). So PERSONALLY I would say don't worry so much about trying to make your story canon-ish in relation to the new stuff coming out.

If you need a beta I can do it! I wont give out any spoilers and I'll still always comment :D.
Though honestly, I think its wise you move on to other projects to stay true to yourself and the words of wisdom you hold so dearly. You don't have to forget about this comic. But as I said keep it on the back burner for when you have time or are bored or something.
I am someone that draws almost nothing but fan art.. and its helped me a great deal with finding my style and improving for when its not fan art. So this comic probably does help you as well as you said it was used for practice lol. But its okay to move on if you feel that's what you wanna do.

I for one am a fan of you. Sure the content brought me too your page. But your style and friendly-ness kept me here so I am on board for whatever makes you happy :D

ps. Stop being sick XD
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Also, whether it was canon or not is not really the problem, but more like... 'oh, I wanted to do this in my story --which was never done before-- but now a movie/special/video game, etc. has done it, and now it looks like I'm copying their idea' sorta thing XD...
I wish I could stop being sick, rofls. (I just GOT over my last cold, then got another one like 2 weeks later... sigh) haha
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Doggy-YashaHobbyist General Artist
Seriously , get better!!! i know its probably hard due to working and such but really get better!!!!!!
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Thanks :aww: It's more of my nephew and niece bringing home their school germs, haha
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Doggy-YashaHobbyist General Artist
darn those young kids and their germs XD
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Well, the possible movies/that are actually canon (that Toriyama actually helped to write) are the BoG movie, the upcoming "F" movie, and the "Yo, Son Goku" t.v. special. Haha, never read alllll of Jaco, so I dunno about the Bardock thing, lolz. Agh, I guess I just wanna remain true to at least most of the Dbz rules... at least to the ones I wanna deal with, lolzz. Like, I don't consider GT canon (and I can't even make myself watch the whole series yet, rofls), but I do like some elements of it... anyways... haha...

Thank you so much for your support, btw! If you don't mind being spoiled, I'll definitely keep you in mind for the beta thing! I might finish a few more chapters first though... maybe. Lol. But thanks!!

You're right though; I should stay true to myself... I just feel bad, I guess, lol...(if I don't finish it). Well, if I truly give up on it, It'll just post the story, lol...
But yer right. I can always draw it out later! Thanks, missy 😊😊😊
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Doggy-YashaHobbyist General Artist
T.T its okay you dont have too. It's .. not -that- great >.> thats me a Bardock fan saying that.
And totally makes sense to wanna stay true to the rules and what not. oh come on you know you liked GT LMAO!!! Not watching the whole series was good for your mental health.. I think my brain leaked out through my ears XD!

Welcome! And I do not mind in the least about being spoiled. If you need me im here! but do as you wish lmao!

Do what makes you happy and don't feel guilty do want ya need your fans will be here no matter what!!!

(sory my response isnt amazing!! its been a long day) ... but welcome .. I am here as your cheering team! :D
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Haha, it's okay. Thanks. Your response was just fine xD
I'm mostly okay with it up to chapter 19... well, sort of. It just seems soooo long. I dunno if there are parts I can cut out or not. Oh well. Note me your email?
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whoa chapter 19!!! there might be im excited to seeeee!!! lmao!
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Well, I might start editing them a bit before I send them to you :XD: Make sure there's nothing I 'forgot' to fix, lol...
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okay XD! lmao!! IM EXCITED!!!
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Just do what you makes you happy! I've been with you since you first started posting your comic (it's me scuzme I had a 3 year gap haha) and if I have to wait another few years I'll wait ;) or if you eventually have had enough so be it :D it will still be a fun journey. Maybe get some one to help you? People don't generally do comics alone :hug: and by the time you finish yoy can sell it in book form. Believe me I'll buy one!
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Oh, hey, Scuzme! :D :aww: Thanks for your support over the years! But yeah, just not sure I can sell it, since it technically illegal...
Aghh, I am not a fan of someone helping me to draw my comics, lolz. (Unless it's a commission, and I HAVE to, but this is just for fun, lols.)
I'll try to figure out what makes me happy and do that :aww: Thanks!!
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I'm sure many people have sold fan comics :/ I never even considered it being illegal haha oh well you still doing your original comic as well? I can understand about wanting to do it yourself though it's your creation ;)
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genaminnaProfessional Traditional Artist
Yeah, many people do, but it's still technically illegal... lol. In Japan, it's illegal too, but most creators turn a blind eye to it... but I can't bring myself to do it, unless I get real permission from Toei or something (since they technically own the series...)
I'm still doing originals; the only thing is that they are kinda hard to post because they are either submissions to companies, or stuff that is soon-to-be (hopefully)-published, so I can't post them online... :(
Unless I do a complete webcomic... but tbh, I don't know if I have the time for a full commitment of one... sigh. xD.. Thanks though. :)
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Yeah if you plan on selling your own comic keep it to yourself haha though you could post on your own website a sneak peek of chapter 1 :D
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