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Which would you choose? Armed conflict, or letting the other side rule?

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ShibaLoaf Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Professional Filmographer
The Republicans believe that the Democrats have subverted the electoral process. "Trump won, Biden stole the election, and we're facing the exact scenario people have been stockpiling guns for. A tyrannical influence has taken over the government." Conversely, the Democrats believe the Republicans are trying to launch a coup, and likewise subvert the election and take over the government. One side is going to get their way, and the other side is going to feel like America is being stolen from them.

So this begs the question, what will Americans do when they feel that America has been stolen from them? If Biden is inaugurated, the Republicans can either accept that "the election was stolen," or they will have to take up arms to stop it. If for whatever reason Biden is denied office, the Democrats will feel very similar.

Coming back to my original question now, it looks like Biden is going to be inaugurated and the Republicans are feeling very cheated. Will they allow this perceived attack on the republic to succeed, or will they take up arms against their fellow citizen to protect what they see as democracy?
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hbaf187 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Writer
We don't know how violent the Republican party is going to get.

It is a sad commentary on the U.S. to see an insurrection here against a free and fair election.

And, to beat the fascists here to the punch, we know that with around 55+ lost court cases lost by Trump, some ruled upon by Trump-appointed justices, it was a free and fair election.

Trump's lawyers only talk their miles and miles of lies outside the courtroom, where they can't be thrown in jail for perjury.
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TheClyonies Featured By Owner Edited 1 day ago  Student Digital Artist
Actually The President of America is already charging a huge wave of people with Treason Already. Here is the video..

rumble.com/embed/vab4ph/?pub=4
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner 4 hours ago
He's got less then 24 hours to do it...
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TheClyonies Featured By Owner 4 hours ago  Student Digital Artist
Its going to be Biblical. Get your popcorn sign up on gab and relax
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Smithnikovat Featured By Owner 4 hours ago
I don't sign on up on any site like that. This place is the closest to social media I get ( I don't have Twitter, Facebook, ect...) and that's the way it's gonna stay. Besides, if it's gonna be Biblical, it'll be pretty easy to see from any vantage point now won't it?
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Jphyper Featured By Owner 2 days ago
When the OP says "the Republicans", they don't mean "some Republicans" or "Republican politicians." No, they mean "the Republicans". As in the entire party and everyone in it. Every poll out there shows that nearly 3/4 of all the people registered to the Republican party fully believe Trump's lies. Sad thing is, I'm pretty sure Trump himself believes the lies, too.
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SomethingOff Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant
One thing is for sure: americans provide the world with cringe and memes
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EnryoAlpha Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Well, it's obvious which choice Amazon wants...


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jawsisra Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Student Artist
I think any one who advicates for Armed conflict just because their side lost  should be arrested and tired for treason simple as that.

We lived though Clinton  We got thoug Bush  we made it though Obama  and we have lived though Trump   We will get though Biden and in 4 to 8 years a Republican will win. 

Noticed a Trend    From the monet Clinton won    D R D R D

People need to just get over them self.    The Election was NOT stolen from any one    No one is Entitled to Win.    To say it was stolen is to say the person is entitled to win or get a 2nd Term.

If they were Entitled to their 2nd Term then We have to Re-elect  Jimmy Carter first he only got 1 Term
We should have to elect Bush 1 Before he died he only got 1 Term

1 Term presidents has happen many times in the past

And Trump will just be added to the list.

Those that call for an armed conflict are   advicating killing American Citizen just because they do not agree with them.    Anyone how thoses this is nothing more then a MURDER

To kill someone just because you do not agree with their view or their vison for America  is nothing more then Censorship which should auto be a 1st Degree Murder charge.

Trump brought out the WORST in people.  You want to bring people together and unite  you need to bring out the BEST in people.  You are not going to Unite the Nation by bring out the Anger in people  People need  because to kil soto deal with their Anger

But going out and Killing your fellow CITIZEN.  Sorry but you are nothing more then a MURDER then and I hope any one who does this faces the death penalty   to kill some one just because of their views   is NOT what the founders of this nation wanted.


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SomethingOff Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant
Through*
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The-Abyss-Watcher Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional Digital Artist
What's better for Europe.
I dunno what's better, what's lesser evil?
Armed conflict, then.
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EmperorSeverne Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Armed conflict. Let the morons weed each other out.
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GameTrek Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional General Artist
Cheated for what ?

His wife hates Christmas and all are literally whores.

He pardon black water criminals.

This guy owns hotels, palors, spa all breeding grounds for prostitutionand human trafficking.

...............

The only reason why we have Biden is because all of the same lesbian bs from Holl and Bill.

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Only reason why morons think a Republican is great is because of taxes.
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EmperorSeverne Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Kids, never do drugs.
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Jasesaster Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whats more American than getting rid of fucking old ass neo-confederates and inbred reality denying neo-nazis?

I won't participate for such for it is not my battle(yet)  but if someone is fully proven to be either or. Queue the national anthem and finish off what Lincoln and Roosevelt started.




Responding to your question: I think what happened is that republicans have split up into certain parts. The reviled Trump supporters who did/would have or supported the capital storming and the other republicans with a sense of shame, I think the hardcore Trump supporters will do something again.
God help the sane republicans and may god have mercy on the Trump supporters.
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KuangYu-Cheng Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Trump wants a peaceful transition, so I guess it is up to his supporters agree with him or not.
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wolfworths15menkey Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Trump didn't say he conceded, he only said he wants a peaceful transition to the new administration(regardless of if he or Biden is in charge). Trump made it clear in other more recent statements.
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Saeter Featured By Owner 1 day ago
It's not a "new" administration if it's just a continuation of his own.
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wolfworths15menkey Featured By Owner 1 day ago
Technically it is.
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Saeter Featured By Owner 1 day ago
What because the Trump cabinet has either resigned or were fired? Didn't he gloat that he only ever hired "the best people"?
That said it still would not be a NEW administration.
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wolfworths15menkey Featured By Owner 1 day ago
You don't know much about technicalities.
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Saeter Featured By Owner 1 day ago
You just don't want to admit the first point.
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wolfworths15menkey Featured By Owner 1 day ago
I am serious. Also Trump's cabinet has been the target of a witch hunt.
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Fat-Punisher Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Armed conflict.

Letting fascists win, death is guaranteed.

Fighting fascists leaves the possibility of a socialist revolution, and breaking the endless wheel of capitalist suffering.

like many leftists I'm armed and prepared. I'm not excited about the possibility of conflict, like the far right nutjobs who pray for a civil war.
I don't find joy in it, but I'm prepared regardless.

I should also mention that although Hillary won the popular vote in 2016, we didn't have a war over it.
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RobStrand Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Id rather not have socialism. If anything desolving the Democrat and Republican parties into one single party would be the best option and as the founding fathers intended in the beginning.
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Fat-Punisher Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
a one party state lmao.
Sounds like some kind of dictatorship to me.
I'm looking for a socialist democracy.
I want every business to be a worker coop, where the workers vote in a democratic work place.
once you eliminate extreme wealth at the top (by spreading the wealth among the workers), you are free to have a democracy that isn't subverted by the elites.
The problem with our current system isn't the two parties, it's the elites who control the two parties. whether you have one party or a hundred, the elites will control them. The wealthy are the real problem.
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RobStrand Featured By Owner 3 days ago
That's where term limits come in handy so it doesn't go full dictatorship. We're politically stagnant. Neither of these parties are doing what we as Americans want. Its all about control and screwing over the competition. It will also open up more cooperation by not having a party divide separating eachother.
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Fat-Punisher Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The party divide is negligible. it's all controlled opposition.
The ones pulling the strings are the lobbyists, CEOs, Billionaires.
Nothing getting done is standard operating procedure, because capitalism must fundamentally perpetuate itself.
90% of the bills that pass that senate are for millionaires.
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RobStrand Featured By Owner 3 days ago
((The party divide is negligible.))
No offense but have you been living under a rock? Yes it has. Look at what happens this year alone. Democrats and Republicans hate eachother even more now than ever.
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Fat-Punisher Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No they don't.
They are both just trying to appeal to their voters.
The democrats and republicans agree just fine on issues of corporate power.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Only one side repeatedly fantasises about the break up of the union and taking up arms against a perceived state tyranny.
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Tinselfire Featured By Owner 6 days ago   General Artist
Depends. Will the other side harm me anyway if I concede?
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ShibaLoaf Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Filmographer
You have to guess. :P
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Tinselfire Featured By Owner 6 days ago   General Artist
History has shown that guarantees are usually a synonym for lies.
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ShibaLoaf Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Filmographer
At the very least, that's how I do guarantees in Total War games. :P
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Tinselfire Featured By Owner 6 days ago   General Artist
Morituri te salutant.
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niotabunny Featured By Owner 6 days ago
just one more derangement syndrome, it'll pass and another will take office.  4 years goes pretty quickly.  this is literally what it looked like when trump took office and the left lost their minds causing riots, doing their best to state trump didn't win, stating that the electoral college should be done away with... so yeah it'll never change because rinse and repeat.

and America does have the right to have arms, we don't need AK47 and all that nonsense, but we do need to protect ourselves from the government.  ask a native American the importance of carrying arms and not giving them up, trust me, we do carry arms quite well now.  hunting and protecting while gathering, equally as important as governments trying to come for things that isn't there.  the government should be afraid of her people, not the other way around.
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COMMANDER9 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
To just put a something out there:
I've had a person to person conversation with a retired US army officer about his stance on the right to bear arms-
He believes that all US citizens should be able to purchase fully-automatic weapons.
When I asked why, he told me that it would be to make civilians on par with the military.
His apparent reasoning to that it acts as a deterrent if the military becomes corrupt, and that had he a sneaking fear of the military using such deadly weaponry that he had experience with on the civilian population.
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niotabunny Featured By Owner 6 days ago
that is an idea, however knowing the layout of your own environment vs the military only aware of what they know of the layout can be used to one's advantage as well. when natives were used for combat in revolutionary war (older/other wars), we didn't use guns all the time, we used what we knew, blended with our environment and easily picked them off.
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COMMANDER9 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Basically what is termed guerrilla warfare and such thing is still effective even today as the war in Afghanistan is quite evident
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RobStrand Featured By Owner 6 days ago
The true heros, the true Americans are the ones who didn't participate in the roiting earlier this year and didn't support it either. And on the same hand for the Trump supporters who didn't get all bent out of shape over losing. You can vote Democrat or republican and be a good person.

I was more surprised by the results, and had reasonable suspension regarding voting fraud because of all the shenanigans regarding mail in ballots but so far either A: there is no evidence, or some evidence but not enough to overturn the results or B: its just being suppressed as a massive conspiracy.
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StephenL Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago
People in this country would have to be living in a fantasy world of the past to believe that an insurrection would lead to anything less than providing a window of opportunity for a country like China to launch an all out military aggressive attack on the U.S.A.
In the end we will all be going to re-education camps to learn Chinese and change to their culture and political system.
Why do you think their military weapons and size has grown and expanded over the past decades, for a dog and pony show?
They would most likely justify such action on the belief that a super power in a state of chaos would be a serious danger to the world's security with nuclear technology not being responsibly controlled and vulnerable to use by fanatics.
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wolfworths15menkey Featured By Owner 6 days ago
China isn't even able to but India in border fight's so I doubt they would be the ones to invade but something like the thirty years war where numerous local factions and there foreign allies fight it out seems likely.
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ShibaLoaf Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Filmographer
Although a super power in a state of chaos would be a serious danger to the world's security with nuclear technology not being responsibly controlled and vulnerable to use by fanatics.
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4-X-S Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
That all depend on what I profit from these dictions. Upward mobility determines ideology. Social status determines faction aliment
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Saeter Featured By Owner 6 days ago
You'd think that but it has always been the trick of the conservative to blame the lack of upwards mobility to the average white man on the existence of the free black man or the immigrant.
The white man then contents themselves with simply being above the black man and the immigrant despite essentially being in the same boat.
They certainly have advantages over the black man and immigrant which only serves to further frustrate the white man who find themselves in positions no better than them.
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4-X-S Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
Thought is subject to perception. Form their perspective it is enormous risk to compete on the equal ground, and they are right in that regard, they have something to lose if other immigrant become upward mobile, but what they don't know is eliminate the presence of the immigrant will also cost them. The way the system being set up is to relegate immigrant to low wage labors so the Western economy can become competitive, most of 'Proud Saxon guy' don't have to do the 'dirty works' in the field, or serious overtime in the lab. Without these denizen labor force, living cost will sky rocket and a tanked economy will drain these poor guys faster. They chose to be the top of food chain but the top only have limited space, you cant be the apex predictor and the dominate species at same time, you either control all the power and resources to become genetically obscure, or you accept the intense labor and low wage stay as the prime composition of the society.
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sezzac155 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
I guess it doesn't effect me so much since i'm not American.

But I feel you are making a false comparison or whatever. Biden did win. There is no "believe" on the Democrat side.
America is supposed to be a democracy like most Western countries and he won through the very democratic process of people voting. There has been no evidence of voter fraud and Trump is refusing to step down. 

Honestly, I'm waiting for more riots to start. And riots that are more clearly riots not the weird-ass riots that we saw in the Capital building. Things are going to get worse even if they are not televised. There most likely is going to be a fall out- expect more hate crimes, y'know the bashings and shootings which seem to have no motivation behind them.
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blackbook668 Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago
I believe in living to fight another day. This business isn’t worth it for the Republicans, it weakens them significantly. In the larger scheme of things, this election is just another battle in a war between these parties. Lose the battle, win the war.

Or maybe people should move on from this war mindset. It weakens the country to have two forces oppose each other like this. A strong country is a united one, not a divided one. It’s going to be a real nasty wake up call when you find out your real enemy isn’t across the aisle but from another land and willing to destroy themselves if it means taking you out.
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wolfworths15menkey Featured By Owner 6 days ago
If Biden is allowed to take office things won't be that simple, there are already Democrats pushing to punish all Trump supporters and that is far from the only insane push coming from the Democrats. If a civil war happens it will be because the Democrats(as a party, whatever the outlier individuals do isn't going to be the determining factor) either get in and push everyone else to far or they lose and take TDS to its most extreme conclusion. While both are nightmare scenarios the way Democrat politicians are talking the former is very likely even though the average Democrat has no interest in terrorising Republicans.
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