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Art website trying to destroy art rpgs

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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm a big fan of the art roleplay game communities on this website. "Gamifying" art gives a lot of people an excuse to draw and improve their skills, and some of the communities I've been in have been filed with amazing artists. 

When Eclipse came around, dA staff even specifically asked for feedback so that ARPGs can keep going on the site. 

So what have they done so far?

Mostly a hell of a lot of nothing, but also...

They apparently introduced anti-spam measures at some point into the site that limits and destroys hyperlinking, because apparently 20 links is too much but 19 is okay (when a spammer only needs 1 link to spam with, let's be honest here). My friend had a staff member specifically say 19 was the limit for some reason.

A lot of ARPGs require tracking progress through... links in journals and comments as evidence of said progress. But you are screwed if you put a lot of work into something and need to show it with more than 19 links to artwork or whatever. 

Just another hidden """"feature""" of Eclipse for you all.
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:iconkaizenkitty:
KaizenKitty Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Writer
are you talking about including < html > < href > tags in Journals and comments? because that is gone completely, site-wide.


i dont know if you can still include hyperlinks in the description of your artwork when uploading....


so i guess we'll have to post ugly long links like so: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVpXBw…
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm talking about links like that Youtube video (which, I wanna watch later lol), yep!
dA purposefully breaks them past 19 links which sounds like a lot, but for a character you've invested a lot of time and art into and want to track it all in one place, it isn't all that unusual to have more. Depending on the group, of course.
A lot of the other things Eclipse has introduced has been rough on ARPGs (like no comment pagination), so this is yet another issue that seems to have just cropped up.
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preimpression Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Digital Artist
For those who can afford it, I recommend Lorekeeper to anyone wanting to run an ARPG but leave DA behind.
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TheCynicalViet Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've never actually heard of what you're talking about until now but maybe making a Discord for those ARPG's would work?
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some have tried, but without a presence in an art community (and dA is still the most accessible, in my experience), they often die out.
Discord is great for chatting and organizing things for an ARPG, but not so great for image hosting and tracking progress, alas.
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Edited Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Discord based arpgs tend to be even messier then DA, unfortunately.

It's not meant to hold tons or lore and stuff, its for chatting and streaming
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EmperorSeverne Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Blame the spammers who keep IP-ban evading and plaguing the site with virus-filled ads.

On a side note, am I the only person who thought the "A" in "ARPG" was "American"?
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's funny because these measures wouldn't actually stop the spammers that much. Spammers gonna spam.
And that's fair, I'm not from the US but I see "A" and usually think so.
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah yeah to bad no matter what they do when it comes to links they won't fix it

Also I bet your not the only one haha, I can see why you thought that!
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ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Edited Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Photographer
Is this another anti-Eclipse thread?
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:iconchaost:
ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unfortunately.

Though I at least attempted to point out something others might not have noticed before. 
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
If your so disgusted by this you shouldn't have read it in the first place, 'cause its kind of obvious by the title that this isn't going ot be "oh this site is great"
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ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Photographer
I never said the site is great, nor am I disgusted by the OP. I'm just tired of seeing complaints against the Eclipse update, it's already a dead horse topic.
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TaedtaHobca Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Hmmmm. It’s not really a dead horse if eclipse keeps getting new updates.
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
And some people will complain regardless if its a dead horse, I'm personally one of them.
I dont post any complaints on site though, I usually complain to my freinds ahahaha
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Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
And some people will complain regardless if its a dead horse

You're not wrong on that, seeing we get that a lot on here.
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Edited Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Speaking of dead horses, speaking to you is like beating a dead horse. You keep commenting on my shit thinking I dont have a comeback when I have all night to talk to you.

Who'll loose steam first? The person who lives for the thrill of it or some poor gatekeeper who has no idea what shes in for.

I bet I can stay up longer then you to respond to each and every response you make.


Stop responding to me sooner rather then later so I can move on with my nonexistent life
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Hertz0 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
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:iconkaizenkitty:
KaizenKitty Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Professional Writer
bruh
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Idk if you have anything to say about that Miss Sarah, after all, your one of the ones who keeps coming back and complaining about people's posts :)
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Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes
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ThatWasLeftHanded Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Photographer
Ugh.
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FuZzY-MuTaNt Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Professional Digital Artist
hmmm .. i believe there could be a way to circumvent this . :nod: Llama Emoji-09 (Drinking Tea) [V1] 

you could make a Google Document that contains all of the links !! Day56 - Happy Cry Daisy :3 ^.^ on the main journal/artwork , etc .. perhaps you could post the link to the Google Document ? Book :happybounce:

That way , you could most as many links as you would like ~!! :excited: So happy Happy Tears 

i am not aware of any restrictions on Google Documents involving the usage of links . maybe that can help you ? :hug: Tea  :cuddle: 

I'm sorry that this is an inconvenience to u !! :iconimhorrifiedplz:
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know some people have moved to google sites to try to circumvent this problem. The downside of that is that people can't comment directly on them, so you can't keep all your info in one spot.

dA journals used to be by far the easiest to use for this, alas
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FuZzY-MuTaNt Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Professional Digital Artist
Yup .. it's a patch but doesn't fix core issue , i agree .. :nod:
but , i hoped i helped you , even if it was just a little bit !! :aww: :hug: :happy:
Also , thank you so much for the watch !! :glomp: Bunny Emoji-87 (Thanks) [V5]
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:iconchaost:
ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for the watch as well! I dig your style.
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FuZzY-MuTaNt Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Professional Digital Artist
AAAA thank u !! :iloveyouplz: :love:
do you like Undertale ? :3 :dummy:
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:iconchaost:
ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha, I do actually.
I like a lot of different things that have been popular over the years!
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FuZzY-MuTaNt Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Professional Digital Artist
AWESOME !! :excited: :omg:
..cause I totally have an Undertale pic in the working right now ! :D
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice, I'll keep an eye out for it!
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a very good way to circumvent this, However that leads to way more clicks then necessary, especially for something that's supposed to be a game,

Many arpgs have already done this! Which is good, considering that Docs is easier to organize then DA anyway.

Sheets is quiet useful for this as well, and Idk about excel (haven't used it yet)
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FuZzY-MuTaNt Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Professional Digital Artist
I agree !! :nod: ^w^ :3
it seems as though DA has been getting spam/automated spam a lot lately, so perhaps the restrictions on links could be temporary until the spam wave dissipates .. Llama Emoji-09 (Drinking Tea) [V1] :Sleep:
Sheets is great, too ! :happybounce: Omg.. i totally forgot about that one !! xD :D :wow: :faint:
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
They've always been spammed/automated spammed, its not a new thing and it certainly won't stop. As far as I can see from experience it hasn't really increased either.
A good way to stop it is to make it so people can report accounts easier.
One thing about eclipse that I love is the ability to actually delete comments
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kokamugithu Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021
I agree
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:iconchaost:
ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You have amazing art!
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:iconkokamugithu:
kokamugithu Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021
:D ahaha thanks man
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MadrePappagallo Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've never even heard of ARPG until now lol.
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm, I'd describe most of the ones I've seen like... closed species/adoptables/DnD but with artwork? 

Some of the big ones have thousands of members. 
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:iconneiot:
Neiot Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
I already packed up my ARPG and high tailed it to Discord.
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:iconpreimpression:
preimpression Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Professional Digital Artist
If you have the funds, I'd suggest Lorekeeper! It's what I pulled my ARPG, @Xiunus over to.
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:iconneiot:
Neiot Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
I do not have the funds. :(
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:iconchaost:
ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How is that working, just out of curiosity?
Recruitment and such seems like it would be difficult, unless you use maybe Toyhou.se or something as well.
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Neiot Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
It died.
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well... that's depressing. Sorry that happened. 
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Neiot Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
I've dedicated the last decade of my life to keeping it alive and letting people enjoy it, but only one or two people actually play, and they're often so busy, I don't come up with campaigns anymore. I want to keep the flame of interest alight, but it is difficult.
It is not fully dead. It's still got a pulse. Just a very, very weak one.
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's sad to see projects with that much longevity and work put into them peter out like that, but that's pretty natural too. 

Maybe some day that light will come back, or you'll find another project to work on! 
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Neiot Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
I can't imagine working on another project, but I'm keeping myself busy with something. I just don't want to do it alone, ya know?
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ChaosT Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That makes sense, getting something going, whatever it is, is usually easier with help.
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MeteorstarTheArtcher Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2021  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah shoit man, I'm, working on my dragon arpg :(

Guess I'll have to keep everything on docs- What an annoyance (sarcasm intensifies)

Eh Like docs more sense then I can make it look pretty, sense eclipse is garbage.
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CyberRobotnix Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2021  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*shit *since

Can you atleast speak proper English?
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