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In the past, my work has been uploaded to DeviantArt by other deviants without my permission, but i was never really bothered too much, as i know how great and efficient the DA staff are at taking the work down.


However, i warn all of you now, to put watermarks on your images before it is too late. It may be simple to be dealt with on this site, but when it's used elsewhere, it may not be so simple.


Recently mine and quite a few other artist's work was found on Ebay by :iconsquirrelemperor:. They were being sold as laptop covers, without any of our consent. I read up on Ebay's rules, and to report such a thing you have to print our a form, fill it all it, and fax it to them, and it can take weeks for anything to get done. All the while, a profit is being made on your artwork.

Luckily, after many messages from various people to the seller, (all of which i'm very, very grateful for) our problem was solved as the item listing was removed. However, just don't let it get to that stage. Don't make my mistake. Put watermarks on your artwork. Do it now rather than later.

If you don't want to make your own watermark, or don't have the time, don't worry. DA has a handy little watermark feature that you can use.

And if some people complain about the watermark, then don't be put off. You're protecting your artwork. And that's far more important.

So people, remember your watermarks! Put them on. Right now! =P
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:iconniffler13:
Niffler13 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know if this comforts you, or does just the opposite but this only happens to the good artists. *shot*
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arjuu-na Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011  Student General Artist
Unfortunate truth, bro.
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:iconniffler13:
Niffler13 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep. ._.
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spartan316 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
I have to concur in full
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Felixnotes Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
If someone can make money off my "art" then so be it. I honestly don't care. But it would be nice if people buying them knows who actually made it. Maybe I would care if I did this for a living but I am just having fun for now and learning.
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GisaPizzatto Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Featured: [link] ;)
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tursiart Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
The problem with DA's watermark is that it's huge and obnoxious, and actually gets in the way of the vast majority of honest folks who just want to view your deviation. It's so hugely annoying to me that I have a policy of not faving or really looking at anything with that giant ugly stupid watermark on it.

Now, having a less obtrusive watermark that you add yourself, in photoshop or some other program... I can see the merit in that. I will sometimes incorporate such a watermark in my own work, in fact. The problem with something like that, however, is it gets in the way of deviant art prints.

I have found personally that the best way to protect my artwork from being stolen, while avoiding the ugly watermark issue... is to just deactivate the download button on each deviation page, and make sure the largest view is no greater than 800 pixils on the longest side.... lower resolution essentially.... that way if anyone tries to steal and sell prints, it just turns out pixilated and ugly for them.

I guess if someone really wanted they could still steal my work and try to pass it off as their on on a website or something. Truthfully I've only encountered that issue once, a long time ago. Someone posted some of my art on a forum (not DA) saying it was their own. Luckily, one of the other posters recognized it as mine and the OP was immediately discredited as a lame art thief.
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xlntwtch Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011   Writer
I like artwork with proved provenance. I thought most people who bought it wanted provenance to show the artist and even the date. A watermark is a different thing I guess, but signatures, dates, all that can be put on artwork that's selling to anyone who knows what they're doing should be done. Isn't it?
I saw the comment about literature. Made me think.
I don't do artwork at all, but I do buy a fair amount, and have never seen a watermark on any of it. I do see some with provenance, right down to what number of print it is. I like that!
Now: Should all literature hold a copyright? Hmm. Maybe I should ask: Should all good literature (who can judge that?) hold a copyright? I was under the impression dA supplies a copyright on it.
True or not? Thank you to anyone who read this block of words! :o
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:iconthoughtwright:
thoughtwright Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly, so what if people are profiting off "Your" artwork? Hey, cool, my art is on laptops now, and someone else is making money while doing it. Now how awesome would that be?
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linkieoftermina Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
*salutes* Yes ma'am. XD
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:iconphilluppus:
Philluppus Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011   General Artist
why don't you all use digital finger printing?
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:iconthecreativejenn:
TheCreativeJenn Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Instead of relying heavily on one option like watermarking to protect yourselves, you could also browse the website known as Art Scams [dot] com to better your defenses.
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aliceferox Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2011  Professional Photographer
This, honestly, this times 1,000.
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:iconthecreativejenn:
TheCreativeJenn Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
:) :heart:
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TheCreativeJenn Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
That, and this.
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Aelorn Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I wish there was something like that for literature art... But luckily, literature art is stolen far less often than image art. Largely because many find it to not be real art.
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Shamon-Bananas Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Student General Artist
Now that you mention it, I had one on my page I really should protect, I think I did a pretty good job on it. Thanks for the info. I also saw the whole thing go down with :iconfishlover:, someone stole a picture, thankfully she added her watermark so he was reported and banned easily.
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Streetster20 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
I haven't used watermarks.
But with the DA system - if you have a download link, does it have the watermark on that? or is it only on the preview, I'm curious - since if it's only on the previews, yes it deters some people, but it doesn't exactly fix the possible problems of stolen, or whatever.

But then again - I don't really have anything worth 'stealing' or anything really worth putting a watermark on, since it's mainly previews of stuff... :|

But yeah, with things like photo's and stuff, I'd reccomend putting some sort of watermark on it. But if your going to, try and either make it barely visible (so it blends into the photo) so sort of hide it somewhere. Or have it small, so people can still use your work for things such as wallpapers, etc. Without having a massive, ugly, watermark.

Thanks - also, sorry if this is longer than the actual article. XD Hope someone reads it. ;)
~Streetster20
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Night-Watch-Man Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
thanks,i always put the watermark on my works.:salute:
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:iconthewipeout:
thewipeout Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I dont think my work's worth scrap but I'll do it right away. One man's garbage...
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:iconmasane:
Masane Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I always use the watermarks. I have had a few people complain but I am protecting what I do and love.
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MJMassey Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Not only do I sing most of my work and use the watermarks on most of the ones I am putting up on here, I always, and mean ALWAYS hind MJ in the drawling! I agree with you. I did Jessica Rabbit fan art once, it ended up on a tee at Hot Topic! Miss selling and all!
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sunnydelight18 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't understand why so many people are getting PO'ed at this. You keep saying "watermarks ruin images" "nobody will fave or comment on watermarked pieces". You have a choice. If you don't like the idea of watermarking, don't watermark. If you don't like images with watermarks on them, don't look at them! It's not like =o-eternal-o is making you watermark your work, so why make such a big deal out of it?

I usually watermark my works to a degree. I don't put it in the middle of the image, but I don't put it all the way in the corner either, and it's usually fairly small and opaque. Sometimes I just sign my name on them. Obviously, that could be edited out, but it's better than nothing. I find that if you have a huge watermark, it can take away from the image, so that's why I rarely use the DA one, but a small watermark that's opaque... well, I couldn't care less if it's there or not. So, I think it's very smart to watermark your pieces to avoid things like this :)
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OddDreams101 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I bet someday I'll run across something I've come up with the concept for and/or actually done regardless, and to be honest I take photos and write for fun as opposed to making money. If that changes, I'l watermark the crap out of my work, add copyrights, the whole 9 yards. Until then, I'm content if I can prove it CAN make a profit (because honestly I'd laugh if someone decided to use my work and lost the shirt off their back because of it)

I agree with this article 100%
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Luaprata91 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
actually....there are programs that remove watermarks automatically.
is someone wants to take your imagens and make it them own, they will do it...unfortunatelly.
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:iconarjuu-na:
arjuu-na Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011  Student General Artist
Late comment is late, but they actually have programs to get rid of watermarks? :O
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:iconluaprata91:
Luaprata91 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
yes, there is, of course i never used any, but hackers use it
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:iconhopperartz:
HopperARTZ Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't tend to use watermarks, but I do sign all my art. And people who gripe about watermarks are rather petty. =/
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Imaginary--Thoughts Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't care for dA's default watermark (it could be a little more transparent? I dunno, it's so obtrusive to me)... but this is a good reminder to protect your work = 3 It took a long time for me to start signing things alone... XD;
(not that any of it is really worth stealing ._.)

Glad your thing with that Ebay creep worked out.
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:iconfieldsoffire:
FieldsOfFire Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
I'll do it when I have something worth stealing.
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LightningSauce Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
same.
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:iconpurplemelons:
PurpleMelons Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011   Digital Artist
Honestly, I don't bother because most of my art is pretty lame anyways.
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00DarkChocolate00 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't like putting watermarks on my Deviations, since I've never had anything stolen before :shrug:
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:iconmodernmilk:
Modernmilk Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
let the artwork be free!
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:iconitsnotfilia:
ItsNotFilia Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Heh, tell that to those who may sell products featuring your art.. and keep all the profits. :saddummy:
I do share your view, tho.
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:iconmodernmilk:
Modernmilk Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
i mean make it and then let it be free, don't hold onto it so tightly.
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:iconitsnotfilia:
ItsNotFilia Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, I see.
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:icongraphiclia:
GraphicLia Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
Am I mistaken that the Creative Commons License we can opt to take when making a submission does NOT include the electronic layer that is a part of that license as described by the CC webpage? I have (as do many other deviants) posted notification on our pages that our works are copyrighted. I've seen all too many Billboard Style watermarks. Please look at a few other pages and see if you can't come up with something that doesn't deface your creations. We can all deter the naive by informing them and potential thieves by a warning. Hardcore thieves can justify anything to themselves - those we prosecute.
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Shinavar Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
All it takes is a right click, save image - and renaming the title to your PC. From there, upload it to your photobucket and now anyone can have it without knowing you were the original artist. =/

While I agree, it sucks we have to mark it, but I rather that than dealing with the stress when works get stolen.
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darchala Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
You don't need a watermark for that, though--just a signature, and those can be nice and innocuous. They'd have to be asinine enough to edit it out to sever all ties to the artist (and if they're that lacking in morals, they'd try it no matter how you musked the image).
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Shinavar Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
But some artist's signatures aren't enough to find them again (some aren't even legible in some cases :giggle: ). But those lacking in morals changing regardless IS true; I have even seen an artist who blurred out the water mark, ruined the picture, and claimed they had switched DA accounts and no longer wanted the water mark was why they did it. :|; Either way, though, it would be a way to ruin them from making money off your hard work I suppose.

Still, I am a fan of watermarks if just because it is easier to relocate the artist that way (if they are creatively done, or faded out so you can still make it out, but see through it to get the whole image). I provide a way for those who want an unwatermarked version to get it on request since I automatically save everything I do with and without one (especially on commissions and gifts). But I understand the reasons behind not wanting one, too. =/
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darchala Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
Yes, that's true; I should've said 'name' rather than signature. The ideal marking for me is like this - [link] - but a name rather than just a url since those change so much. Easier to read than a big, faint watermark and doesn't detract from the picture... easier to steal, but that's an acceptable tradeoff to me as an artist.

I really like it when people *do* put their names on there somewhere, though, for the same reason: finding more art! :giggle:
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Shinavar Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
:nod: As long as it's on there, there is effort. Some artists, like the old Celestne Comics, one of the pencil artists intentionally would make designs in the cover images that were his name and you have to find it 8D. Those are fun but I don't see them used so often.
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FreckleOnMyPalm Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
Watermarks + low quality files (low enough that printing them looks awful but they look okay on web) = pretty good deterrent for most folks trying to sell your work. I have seen a lot of the art friends here make getting stolen and being put on every item under the sun, it's a serious shame that there are so many people who have no idea what respect is.
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't draw well enough for people to want to steal my art. But I do watermark my better stuff, just in case, with a watermark I made myself.
My biggest concern, however, is my poetry and literature because I write like 100x better than I can draw. I submit very little of what I write for fear someone will steal it.
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LittleAlienGirl Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
While watermarks are nice, you forgot something very important. Never upload something big enough for people to print off. If someone sells a horrible quality print (or laptop cover, as was your example) they will get negative reviews and quickly stop gaining profit from your work.
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Snowy-Ninja Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
Personally i like watermarking just because i have had people take some arts and then print them off! the cheek of it!
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goldendragon1994 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011   Digital Artist
I've heard that there is a way to put an "invisible" watermark." It works in PS, but I think it applies to all art programs.

I Google searched it, and :iconocsurfer: has a written tutorial here>>[link]
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goldendragon1994 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011   Digital Artist
*"invisible" watermark

Pfft--error in punctuation.
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jessica94ere Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
I usually just make my work so that the biggest preview isn't a high enough quality to save to your computer and re-use somewhere else. Not that anyone would want to steal my work, but y'know... heh. :|
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