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Gandhi on Christians by fiskefyren

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He means that Christians are not living a very christlike life, which is getting worse, now that there are so damned many fundamentalist bigots around. Gandhi was more Christian than any 'righteous' pentecostal or southern baptist or any other fundamentalist could ever dream of being.
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johnnytestmilf Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2015  Professional Filmographer
wish i could touch children as well as grandhi
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Fujin777 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
What a legend and hero.
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LongGunner15 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014
Huh. I've heard that more commonly ascribed to Nietzsche. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014
Hm? How so? All I know about Nietzsche regarding this is that Nietzsche believed that there doesn't exist any Christians, beside Jesus.
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LongGunner15 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
I mean I've heard the quote ascribed to Nietzsche.

I completely agree with it, though. I was raised as a Fundamentalist Baptist, but I pretty steadily progressed once I got old enough to start thinking for myself to the point now that I'm an atheist.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
Don't know about that... I only heard it with Gandhi...

Funny how that works, huh? The moment people start using their head is the moment they will lose their silly belief. 
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0oCHARGERBOTo0 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I find this to be extremely true.
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Sunao17 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
that's accurate
I loved what he said, this Gandhi. I don't like his pedophilia, though
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Eh, I don't really know anything about the man, I don't even know too much about his peaceful revolution. And I don't really agree too much with him, Jesus was an asshole. 
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ORIGINS-LUNA Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014  Student Writer
Finally something we are in agreeance upon. Well stated. Christ is Truth Truth is Christ. Chris never wrote anything, his disciples did. Remember there was no printing press at the time. And just so it is stated I am no Christian, or any other religion though Christ and Truth are one in the same in my eyes and science done right also explains this in a way our ears can understand.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014
By looking at all the dumb spam comments you made everywhere else... then I really don't want you to agree with me on anything, that would be an insult towards me intelligence!

ehm... go educate yourself: www.biblica.com/en-us/bible/bi…
-with love from an agnostic
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XeonartOmega Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I believe that a lot of the criticisms toward Christianity stem not from its objective truth, but from its impact on people's lives.
If most Christians truly lived a Christ like life then Christianity at worst would be looked at with respect like Buddhism or
Hinduism and at best, a good thing at least pertaining to its prescribed morality. Just my, how do you say, 2 cents?
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014
Well, I'm glad that Christians aren't Christians, or else we would have a lot more stoning people to death going around. But I would still like for Christians to realize this, which they can't seem to grasp. 
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Demon242 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
This is true about virtually every christian I've met (which includes priests) 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
Honestly, Jesus was an asshole, so this point is rather moot.
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RedStarryNight Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Speaking of which...
The Gandhi Nobody Knows
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At a dinner party shortly afterward, a friend of mine, who had visited India many times and even gone to the trouble of learning Hindi, objected strenuously that the picture of Gandhi that emerges in the movie is grossly inaccurate, omitting, as one of many examples, that when Gandhi’s wife lay dying of pneumonia and British doctors insisted that a shot of penicillin would save her, Gandhi refused to have this alien medicine injected in her body and simply let her die. (It must be noted that when Gandhi contracted malaria shortly afterward he accepted for himself the alien medicine quinine, and that when he had appendicitis he allowed British doctors to perform on him the alien outrage of an appendectomy.)
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I cannot honestly say I had any reasonable expectation that the film would show scenes of Gandhi’s pretty teenage girl followers fighting “hysterically” (the word was used) for the honor of sleeping naked with the Mahatma and cuddling the nude septuagenarian in their arms. (Gandhi was “testing” his vow of chastity in order to gain moral strength for his mighty struggle with Jinnah.) When told there was a man named Freud who said that, despite his declared intention, Gandhi might actually be enjoying the caresses of the naked girls, Gandhi continued, unperturbed. Nor, frankly, did I expect to see Gandhi giving daily enemas to all the young girls in his ashrams (his daily greeting was, “Have you had a good bowel movement this morning, sisters?”), nor see the girls giving him his daily enema.
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While Gandhi, in South Africa, fought furiously to have Indians recognized as loyal subjects of the British empire, and to have them enjoy the full rights of Englishmen, he had no concern for blacks whatever. In fact, during one of the “Kaffir Wars” he volunteered to organize a brigade of Indians to put down a Zulu rising, and was decorated himself for valor under fire.
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etc., etc.
Those in glass houses...
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
Well, I honestly don't think Jesus Christ is a good person, I find him rather despeakable. But I like the thought behind this quote, even though I don't really agree with the Jesus Christ part.
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RedStarryNight Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
Then what is the purpose of quoting such a spiritual figure on the subject? If Gandhi believed that the benevolent lessons of Jesus were not being followed (an argument you will find everywhere, especially among Christians), then you just posted this because someone famous said something bad about certain followers of a religion, not the founder (although this term may be incorrect) of it himself.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014
Because of the meaning of the quote. Again, I provoke thought, nothing else.
He probably didn't know too much about Christ, just like Christiants don't.
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1228248 Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
Gandhi, the wisest person on earth.
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BlondBeastBoy Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013
And he died poor. Meanwhile I'm a priest getting altar boy ass and mooching a bunch of retards every Sunday.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
Death is the great equalizer
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BlondBeastBoy Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
Then religion is doing something right for humanity. Wait, they have kings. Nevermind.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013
The only thing religion does "right" is to teach lies, misinformation, to hold back progress and to kill people for not believing in their retarded ideas (amongst other things).
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Omniczar Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Your opinion and nothing more. You cannot prove existence is false any more than we can prove it true. That's why it's called faith. It's the same exact thing with evolution. It's faith.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
*facepalm* such stupidity. E.g. the Bible teaches that Earth is flat and if that isn't a lie then I don't know what is. Evolution isn't based on faith, it's based on science. And if you say that faith and sience is one and the same thing; then you're truly an idiot. Also, I'm an Agnostic, so I don't know what you mean with "cannot prove existence" that is why I'm not an Atheist nor a Theist...
-with love from an agnostic
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Random-Fire Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014
Actually, fiske, what you've just run into is someone who has a greater understanding of philosophy than you do. In this case, Hume's Problem of Induction, which, according to logical argument, points out that science can indeed be boiled down to nothing more than a matter of faith. Inductive reasoning is the line of inquiry which seeks to state as truth a certain conclusion, based solely upon "strong evidence for" (as opposed to "truths supporting") that conclusion; it does not guarantee truth is preserved into the conclusion. Deductive reasoning, on the other hand, is guaranteed to be preserving of the truth, as it supports a claim with known truths and draws a truth-preserving conclusion from those supporting truths. 

Here's an example:

There is a jar full of red, spherical candies. Upon tasting several of the balls, you find that their common flavor is strawberry. Now, does that give you complete and irrefutable proof that ALL the red candies taste like strawberries? No, because you have only tasted a few of the candies. The only way to know with absolute certainty that all of the candies taste of strawberry is to go through and taste every single one, and even then that does not guarantee that all red balls of candy are going to be strawberry-flavored; it only proves that those specific candies in the specific jar taste of strawberry.

According to inductive reasoning, the fact that you tasted those few candies gives enough evidence for the claim that all the candies in the jar taste of strawberry to be accepted as true, despite not knowing this for certain.

See how this relates to science?

The only way one can accept science is completely, totally, and objectively true is by first placing faith in inductive reasoning, and thereby placing faith in the unsupported scientific assumption that the future will operate as it has in the past. The only support for this assumption is that the future has operated in past in the same way as it has thus far operated in the past. This, of course, produces a nonsensical and cyclical argument:

The future will operate as it has in the past because that is how it has operated in the past.

So, to accept science, one must place faith in that cyclical argument. 

Obviously, as a man who believes in science, I find the fact that science, with all our experiments and calculations and ideas, can be boiled down to being a matter of faith is socially and politically unacceptable and unnecessarily destabilizing of the objective truths that science is dedicated to seeking. But, there it is.

That said, the sooner a philosopher solves the problem of induction, the sooner I can sleep restfully at night.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014
right...

I'm aware of this, but to assume that they don't is exactly the same logic. There is no difference between that and what you said.

And where is your evidence for that it wont? This is like the people who can assume that a mind can exist without a brain, even though nothing proves this to be a possibility. Sure, you can assume all you want, but it wont change a darn thing. Same with philosophy like "I think, therefore I am" of "I am, therefore I think" both points seem really vague to me. Does it matter? Even if one of them were true it wouldn't change anything. Like with philosopher that waste their time trying to figure out the meaning of life is just silly. Everyone in their right mind would come to the conclusion fairly quick that life only has the meaning that you give it, and beside that life is pointless. End of story.

Science = faith? Yeah, this conversation just got a whole lot more stupid... fuck all the evidence that says otherwise... you would be a great Theist... you probably are, aren't you?
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SingaporeCommunist Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
So so so so true my friend btw are you atheist?
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
Well, in truth there are no true Christians (or Muslims for that matter), because none of them live up to what the Bible says, just like Gandhi says. But personally I'm not that much of a fan of Jesus, he too did some pretty wicked shit. And I'm an Agnostic :)
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SingaporeCommunist Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
Good to hear that and thank you.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
You have a good day now comrade <3
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SingaporeCommunist Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
:3
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