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Egon: Conceptual Design XGB by filbarlow Egon: Conceptual Design XGB by filbarlow
I've been digging through my conceptual designs for Extreme Ghostbusters and found this early sketch of Egon. This was an idea I proposed to Executive Producer Richard Raynis while the concept of the show was still in it's formative stage. I did all of the initial XGB design of the main characters from Australia.

I was pitching the idea of Egon as an ambassador to the ghost realm trying to stop an impending war on the other side (I originally suggested between demons and ghosts, but when hell was nixed as a bad idea for a kids show I changed it to a war between ghosts and ghouls). I always liked the idea of the new team entering an abandoned Firehouse and Egon appearing out of thin air in his ambassador garb murmuring in an ancient ghost language. He had spent so long on the other side he was barely able to speak English.

I was asked why the final design of Egon had a ponytail, it was a holdout from this concept. I just couldn't let it go.
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nilescclover Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2017
interesting (that is all I can say).
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TheUnisonReturns Featured By Owner May 7, 2017  Professional Filmographer
With the staff he reminds me just slightly of Jafar. :)
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017  Professional Filmographer
Yeah I can see the similarities, purely unintentional.
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TheUnisonReturns Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2017  Professional Filmographer
I figured as much. Looks great nonetheless. :thumbsup:
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CanRay Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2016  Professional Writer
He looked good with the pony tail.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2016  Professional Filmographer
Ah glad to know it :)
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LemmiwinksGerbilKing Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
Very surprising idea, but that would be dun to see... Maybe not the full show, but at least one episode with alternative universe?timline or something...
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014  Professional Filmographer
They did play with these themes in later episodes, but I wasn't involved with those stories in any way.
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austintrench Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
RIP EGON!!!
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Professional Filmographer
:(
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austintrench Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
It's a tragic loss of a good entertainer
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Tenshi3D Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
That sounds like a good idea. Sorry it didn't happened. It would've made a great episode that's for sure.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I agree, they came close, but this would have added so much more backstory to Egon in the new series.
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Moonlord2084 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
egon's hair on the real ghostbusters if uncut beyond it's original length would have needed to be in a pony tail anyway... so to me it always made since.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Professional Filmographer
true.
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nekoshappiness33 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This should be a side story set in the future. I really think they should've used your concept for another series idea too. :iconinuhappyplz:
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013  Professional Filmographer
It would have been nice.
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Goblinounours Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's a really interesting idea! Love it! :o
Who knows, maybe something a little like that could happen in the third film?
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2012  Professional Filmographer
You never know, but somehow I doubt it.
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Goblinounours Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I doubt it too. ^^

Anyway, the ponytail on the final design was a really nice touch. Made him look so much better than in RGB. ;)
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2012  Professional Filmographer
In a way it was a kind of logical step from his RGB design.
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Goblinounours Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now that you mention it, in RGB, he had a little buckle of hair in the back, didn't he?
Still, I'm happy that he lost the hammer haircut in the process (not sure if it's the right term... you know the 'Elvis style haircut'... in french, it's called 'banana haircut') for the ponytail! ^^
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Yeah I never liked Egon's model in RGB.
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Goblinounours Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, personnally, I've always kinda had a problem with the design of the whole original team. I would've prefered them to look like the actors of the movies. When I was a kid, I didn't like Egon being blond.
However, now, I guess it's because it would have been a problem if the whole team was made of guys with dark hair.
Yet, I loved seeing Egon again. As a kid, everytime I was watching a show, when it didn't have expending plots (like 2 parts episodes with cliff-hangers between them) or one scenario for the whole show (like what you see everywhere nowadays, for example in Young Justice), I was thinking "it's too static, too much 'interchangeable', I'm wondering what will happen to the characters after that show, when they get older".
XGB and Batman Beyond were the kind of show that answered my questions. ^^
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Professional Filmographer
The characters in the animations were changed from the film actors for copyright reasons. The trouble is that the animations are largely seen by the studios as kids entertainment rather than dramatic stories. Richard Raynis saw it differently, he never treated the animations as being for kids.
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Lee-Sherman Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very cool, both as a picture and a character concept. It reminds me of the first Star Trek movie, where Spock is a long-haired hippy on a spiritual journey when he's called back to Starfleet.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Yeah that was a cool moment :D
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Itchyscratchy Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
You worked on the show in Australia? I thought it was made in america. Did they outsource work or something?
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Outsourcing is something the Hollywood Animation Industry has been doing since the 70's. Usually the animation, it is unusual to have the design done out of house.

In my case, because of a comic I did, I was invited to work in LA on ALF back in 1987, once my Visa was up I had to leave. I would come and go as the Visas allowed, but I kept working no matter where I was. In 1996 I decided to take the responsibility of the Visas myself and formed a company in Hollywood to keep me from being bounced back and forth. I stayed for 14 years, the whole time I fought hard to set up projects that would keep the work in LA and employ my friends there. I was fighting a battle I couldn't win, Execs didn't believe it was possible.

Usually only the design is done inhouse, the scripts are done freelance, the audio is often done in Canada, the animation in what ever country is cheapest in Asia. Unfortunately it's all about money, not about the product.
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Itchyscratchy Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I know the animation is usually done in countries like Korea, but thought all the pre-production work like character design was done in USA. Thanks for the history lesson, interesting reading.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Korea outsourced to Taiwan who outsourced to the Philippines who outsourced to Vietnam.

Yes, usually the pre-production is done in the States, but I was an exception as I said.

Sorry for the history lesson lol :XD:
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80sguy Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012
It would have been weird to see Egon like this in the show.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Yeah, but a quick shave, change of clothes and a band around his hair and he's the same Egon you saw in XGB
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clinteast Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Interesting because I never questioned the ponytail even when I was kid watching the show, he had a rat-tail in the oringal show so it seemed like a natural place to go so this is certainly a cool story.
This defintely would have been an interesting place to go with the concept but I liked the show as it was, still Egon has always been my favorite character so I was always really glad that he was in both shows.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I was happy with the concept as it ended up too. It was intended as a simpler format for the writers to work with. Yeah Egon was important as a mentor in XGB.
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coolclaytony Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Here's my advice to you freind, when you can't convince someone to try your version of their product; alter some names, change a few character designs, a few other tweeks, and pitch it as an original idea. I'm sure it will make it easier to get your idea out there where it needs to be.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Haha, why do you think I haven't posted any of the creature designs I did along with this pitch? In my career there has been some really cool stuff that has been rejected, all mine now!

But in all honesty my personal projects are far more interesting to me than repurposing old rejects.
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coolclaytony Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Did I give the impression I didn't know? I geuss there's no point in me sharing what i've learned with the more experienced. But tossing all that aside. I think this concept's to good to just throw away. I have this strange obsession with wanting to make improved versions of rejected titles or just ones I feel need remaking. I've already come up with several ideas for a new Fighting Foodons, Dick Tracy, Battle of the Bands, e.c.t. I just hate to see good ideas go to waste.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Professional Filmographer
The only impression I got was that we were on the same side and in perfect agreement :) You are welcome to share anything you like, I'm all ears!

In truth this concept would have been wasted if I never pulled the art out of the reject pile, colored and posted it here. So it's a step in the same direction you are pursuing. :D
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coolclaytony Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
Which one would you like to hear about first? (forgot to type that :stupidme: )
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Wow you have a lot of ideas on your plate there! Dick Tracy is the only concept I know about, so my homework is to research the other four.

Just to be safe don't tell me your original ideas here, save them for your own DA page, just let me know when you've posted something. That way you are putting your energy into your own work and copyrighting them at the same time! :)
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coolclaytony Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
(Note: I do not have spell check on this computer and im in a hurry so there may be some spelling errors) Well with the Dick Tracy reinvisioning, it's probably one of my better ideas. I became familliar with the character through the Daffy Duck short "Duck Twacy" (I think thats the title). I liked the concept presented by the characatures of the Dick Tracy villians in that short and did some research to see if Dick Tracy was anything like that... I was disapointed. But I did like the dark and gritty world that Dick Tracy presented to me, so I thought up an idea that combined the serious, gritty, violent world of the original comics with the wacky, silly, cartoony world of the Daffy Duck parody. I've been wanting to get access to Dick Tracy comics so I can get more source material to develope the idea with, but i've not had much luck. So I've been thinking of just taking my concept and creating a new character out of it. What do you think?
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Looking at the older comics and animation are always a great resource, I found this site the Digital Comic Museum search for Dick Tracy there is a whole comic they've scanned that you can study.

Certainly studying how the Warner Brothers Animators is a great start, studying Daffy. Personally I prefer to create original content, it's safer, can you apply the concept to something of your own instead?
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coolclaytony Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
Well since your volunteering to hear, hahaha. Currently, im fleshing out ideas for improving Fighting Foodons, Dick Tracy, Battle of the Bands, Chaotic, and Kid Kool. I've also got several original ideas such as Cowboy Up, Warworld, Kannon the Koala, Tribal Wars (will have to change name later), BT-M-UP, Chesspell, Henry's Haunted House, World of Storybook, Shooting Star, The Fantastic Adventures of Lord Copperskin, and Hunt-X.
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Ryusukanku Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
It's a pretty good concept.

After all, war has a way of spilling out past the borders of those Directly involved.

I don't suppose you've pitched this to the current comic series, have you? Might make an interesing Alternate setting.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Yes the idea was that the earth plane was the prize being sought after and the reason for the war, Egon was trying to stop it happening on his own.

Nope, my introductory email to one of the editors at IDW remains unanswered. Seeing as it's been over a year, I've moved on.
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sanshugroove Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012
Whoa, that's a great concept! The whole ambassador idea connects to Egon's line in "The Revenge of Murray the Mantis," so to fans the idea isn't that far out there. I could see this having been sneaked into the "Ghost Apocalyptic Future" where they talk about how Kylie, Eduardo, and Roland being heroes of the Great Ghost War. Something like, Egon tried to forestall the war but talks broke down then use this design in a brief scene. Ah well.

Thanks for sharing this, hearing these stories is great as we wait for that series set on DVD.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I often wondered if the Apocalyptic Future Episode was loosely based off my early idea, but I'll never know.
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Undrave Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012
Oh wow what a cool concept!

Though with that staff and hair style he kinda looks like Jaffar's hippie cousin XD

"Dude! Why you so square! you used to be so cool! Now it's all power this and kill the sultan that. Not cool." :p
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Wow I never made that connection, I guess I shouldn't have colored the staff gold, I was thinking about silver too. :/
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