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Published: November 15, 2018
DeviantART was unique before because it allowed every artist to express they're own individuality. One of its selling points was the user interface which was differnt from other art sites and encouraged people to want to seek out other artists and view their content. 

My opinion about the site's most recent update (Eclipse).

1) It's impersonal. The creativity and the sense of individuality have been abolished. Every single account is now exactly the same. The removal of custom boxes, the basic HTML and CSS codes as well as the ability to show multiple featured drawings at once is a total crime against the artists who want to advertise their work through their profiles. 

2) The avatar icons and background pictures are too blurry. 

3)  There don't seem to be any cropping option during the selection of background images.

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4) I am a BETA tester and I saw that customization widgets are gone. What would happen to all the people who paid for Core Membership during this transition? Are they going to lose their Core features? 

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5) The art-gallery is compacted which gives me a feeling of claustrophobia. It is EXTREMELY uncomfortable to look at. Especially how squeezed the front gallery is with the comments. 


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6) Even though the Night Mode has been requested by people in the past, the version presented here with Eclipse is extreme . It's either TOO bright or TOO dark with bright white letters and it is very harsh on the eyes. 

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7) It's no longer possible to see when somebody on the friends list is available. 

8) The "Like" button in the deviations discourages the faving of artwork. 

9) The DELETE button is right NEXT to the EDIT button so mistakes can easily happen.

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10) The descriptions under the deviations are automatically hidden and easily ignored by the viewers. People were already ignoring the descriptions before to some extent, but after this update they are more than likely to be overlooked. 

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11) The notifications system feels congested and it's basically a huge list of words in comparison to the old version that was well-organized. 

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12) The comments are conjusted.

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13) All the existing features take up the whole screen. 

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This update is ABSOLUTELY unnecessary and it has nothing to do with the things that people have been requesting for years. I believe that the DeviantART staff should focus more on 
fixing the already existing problems rather than adding new additional features that we don't need. DeviantART was unique before and well-sought out due to its amazing user interface. This is definitely a downgrade because it takes away from the creative atmosphere that this place once had. I've been using this site for almost 10 years and I've grown accustomed to the system and I've invested a lot of time to the customization of my profile.

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I designed my own version of DeviantART Eclipse.

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How DeviantART Eclipse should have been by Fairloke
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Fairloke's DA layout by Fairloke

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NotaNameWaster's avatar
I like that deviations can be liked now. There's a lot of art I /like/ but don't /love/. So I don't favourite them, I only favourite stuff I love. An actual like button is a nice addition! A halfway point between indifferent and love.
As for all your other points though, I agree
NotaNameWaster's avatar
Apparently I can't edit this for some reason so that's cool.
Anyway I FINALLY got access to Eclipse! Am very disappointed I can't find a like button on deviations. You got my hopes up man x3
Brushinobi's avatar
BrushinobiProfessional Digital Artist

I agree with you ! I'm not against a more 'modern" style for the website, but it's a shame to lose a lot of informations and customization options like that ! :-/

dinosaurcol's avatar
dinosaurcolStudent Interface Designer

In my pc doesn't look like this, currently i am in a friend's PC.

And doesn't appear that switch neither...

Fairloke's avatar
FairlokeProfessional Filmographer
Some Non-core users are not able to have Eclipse, yet! 
lapis-lazuri's avatar
lapis-lazuriHobbyist General Artist
I like it that you emphasize on points that are not directly visible but are about the feel and atmosphere of the site. Most people focus entirely on the UI (which is a nightmare, yes), but don't look much beyond that. Thank you for making these journals.
Fairloke's avatar
FairlokeProfessional Filmographer
You're welcome! :) The atmosphere plays a huge role in a user's experience. 
lapis-lazuri's avatar
lapis-lazuriHobbyist General Artist
As well as in the way the community functions as a whole and in forming the mindset within it.... I don't think the staff really get that.
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VixenDraHobbyist General Artist
Devious Visions: Eclipse video reviewsDeviantArt is preparing to release Eclipse—a brand-new, completely redesigned version of DeviantArt, featuring a modern style that showcases artists and their art better than ever before. Eclipse is in the process of being released to everyone, and early explorers of Eclipse have shared their reactions and feedback in tons of video reviews.As you try Eclipse, we encourage you to create and share your own video review of your thoughts and experiences. If you create a review video, upload it to YouTube with the tags #DeviantArt and #Eclipse, then comment on this journal with a link to the video to receive a special Eclipse badge!See What Deviants Have to Say@TsaoShin:I think it looks really great. I think it looks really sleek and modern, and I think that really does a lot for looking professional.@Zombie-Kawakami:I uploaded a cover image obviously so that is a new thing that I also like ‘cause let’s be honest, old DeviantArt pages kinda looked really bad.@mynameistran: I like it. It's very me... You know, like really just a simple, minimal design.@MidnightXCross:I feel like it would be good if they added more variety to the Custom box — more ways to customize it and make it your own.@Firefly-Path: Oh wow. I like how dark it is... It's kind of dark and mysterious.@YellowNinja123: Hey, that’s pretty good.@TaitRochelle: I like it. I think it will be positive for DeviantArt. I think it will help DeviantArt grow as a website.@arvalis: Videos can play right in the comment! I don’t have to open anything. It’s great. I really like these updates to comments.Create Your Own Video ReviewWhile Eclipse isn’t available to everyone just yet, we encourage those of you who do have access to Eclipse to create your own video review letting us know what you like and/or dislike about the new interface, and how it feels for you to use. If you decide to make a video review, upload it to YouTube with the tags #DeviantArt and #Eclipse, then comment on this journal with the URL to your video. Once we’ve confirmed your video is an authentic review, we’ll manually award you a Deviant Visions badge for your profile! We’ll grant the badge until August 31, 2019, so you have time to create and share your review.We want to stress that we value authentic reviews. Regardless of whether your sentiments in the review are positive or negative, as long as your review is authentic, you’ll receive the badge.Don’t have access to Eclipse? Request access here!
Consider dropping them an actual, honest review. Or more like, let people HEAR you^^
FlamingTea's avatar
FlamingTeaStudent General Artist
I don't have the new update on this account only on my other one but I personally like this (old version?) much better.
Everything is laid out beautifully in this old version(?) and it has a great background colour.
ParadoxalOrder's avatar
ParadoxalOrderHobbyist General Artist

I get that you don't like the new update and that you have your reasons, but I find the eclipse is my style. This is closer and better to how I wanted to be able to do my profile layout. Though the notifications is bit bothersome now with it's layout. But I'm adaptin'. But one thing I don't like is that there's no search function fo r the gallery's in ECLIPSE. Rather annoying' when tryin' ta find specific things in a deviants gallery.

gutsauce's avatar
gutsauceHobbyist Traditional Artist

They should allow people to opt-in to using eclipse. But even people who love eclipse must be annoyed that core memberships are basically meaningless now.

ParadoxalOrder's avatar
ParadoxalOrderHobbyist General Artist
Agreed.

And that's understandable. Though that may change for all I know of it. Not that I want Eclipse to need core membership.
megawing's avatar
yeah I find the new Layout boring.
4LadyLilian's avatar
4LadyLilianHobbyist Digital Artist
I aggre! 
police1007's avatar
police1007Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That means the DeviantArt is going to update a new version :?
TheGreatWiseAss's avatar
TheGreatWiseAssHobbyist Photographer
I tried it... it is confusing... and if I learned anything... they don't care what their users think... they just go ahead with the change anyway... I like that I can switch back and forth for now... then I'll just have to get used to it when it happens like with Youtube...
nerak55's avatar
Okay I'm sure no one actually wants my 2 cents but here it is anyway, I kinda like this update. I've been on this site for almost 10 years now and I've been thinking lately that the site was in some need of updating. Let me go through your argument point by point.
1) I'd argue most peoples accounts look pretty similar now anyway. Regardless custom profiles is a planned feature anyway.
2) Probably a sizing issue that will be fixed.
3) Okay? Neither does youtube or i think twitter so no sweat off my back I'll just crop beforehand myself.
4) see 1
5)I actually really like this, though I do want the option to have pages and not just infinite scrolling.
6) Personally, I like the extra dark mode but I can agree light mode is too bright and the dark mode could absolutely be too dark for others. Hopefully they'll add more color options later on
7) Wow people actually use that? Everyone I know immediately dissabled that when it was introduced I remeber people hating it.
8) GOOD I kind of hate when people just fave my stuff for no reason as I feel claiming somthing is your "favorite" should have some weight behind it. assuming pressing like doesn't add it to any lists I'll be far more likely to press like then add somthing to my favoirtes and I'll feel like the value of getting favorites will bee more satifying. I'm also extra glad they didn't add a dislike button.
9) You'll get used to it. :/ this feels like a nitpick
10) Hey somthing I agree with you about! This is bad! Don't let the descriptions be hidden!
11) I'm not sure how I feel about the notifs tbh. I kinda like them but also I liked the old one just as much
12) Fair. Might be a bug.
13) Again I kinda like them being big and almost touching. Saves space.
mishihime's avatar
mishihimeHobbyist Digital Artist

I never liked or used the friend list watch thing either. Also, you might want to check some of the "changes" because on my end descriptions aren't hidden and there's no like button under deviations.

NommingNoodles's avatar
NommingNoodlesHobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, awful!
Lymmle's avatar
LymmleHobbyist Digital Artist
Ugh.
If it's true that dA Eclipse is gonna be the new layout of the website and it won't change back, might as well completely move to art station ://
Why is dA even changing the layout? It was fine the way it was...

Let's pray that something like the layout you created will be implemented into Eclipse...
Though, based off from these comments, I don't think will happen. ): |
ShieldLiger's avatar
thanks for the pointer to Art Station.

I gave it a quick once over and sadly it has some of the same "features" as Eclipse that I have issues with, namely the white on black color scheme that gives me and others eye fatigue and headaches.

I'll check it out more later but the site seems to be more targeted at semi and professional artists for show casing their work for getting professional grade jobs, not really a site for casual and amateur artists like DA.  It also didn't really seem to be that friendly a site for "lurkers" like myself who like to browse artists works for fun and seeking the occasional commission work. But like I said, I only gave it a quick look, maybe there is more to it than all the animations and self fluff I saw.
jos98ie's avatar
jos98ieHobbyist General Artist

Yes. I agree.

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