Hey there. I saw your posts on a forum thread about someone not paying for commissions and I gotta say I love how you defend artists and their work. I think it is always so important for people to realize/understand that you aren't only paying for the end result, but the entire time it takes to get there. Even just the initial 'hello so you have a commission idea?" should be considered, because at that point you are doing customer service. The person you were arguing with used lawyers as an example of those who do free work, but I disagree with them. They sounded like they were trying to say the lawyer will work for free to a certain point, but it is really not much different than if an artist does an art consultation: This is what I can do, this is an idea of how long it will take, the resources I will use, and the quality. They may talk about other things, like specifics on color usage or character design etc. It's the same as when the lawyer says stuff like "Well this law states xyz" or gives very basic stuff you could easily research. I know because i've gotten a 'free consultation' on a few occasions, and it was always the bare bones of 'well you could maybe do this, but I can't say anymore without being paid' type stuff lmao.