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IAstartov's avatar
Is it human cybernetically enhanced to the extreme state or just android born in metal?
XyriousAmble's avatar
Androids? doubt it, they are simply war machines, automatons basically, designed to fight, they don't have conscience or anything.
IAstartov's avatar
Well, since there were a lot of extremely cybernetically enhanced people in Babiru (at least, as I saw it), I thought that it could be some intelligent creature too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
XyriousAmble's avatar
Meh, always possible, be cool is Dusty would put out some lore or something.
My16bitbrain's avatar
gdpr-18918873's avatar
detailed drawing is the best display of design skill ... in my opinion ... really cool stuff
Jeffromelun's avatar
Maaaan, I like your style, the different level of a same kind of robot, how the robot is made, woOW!
Passionate work. 

Keep rockin', bro!
qstoenteen's avatar
You have a cool style, I rly like it! с:
Although such clothing is not required to work, it looks like fun :D
BETA368's avatar
DCP ("Chocolate Chip"). Very retro...
precinctomega's avatar
I love this, especially because I'm working on some fiction at the moment that includes exactly this sort of drone soldier.  However, I do have some thoughts.

- Five fingers is wrong.  A thumb plus two is all that's needed for the vast majority of fine motor actions.  A third finger offers redundancy, but the full four fingers is unnecessarily anthropomophic.

- Knee pads are unnecessary.  With the design given, if this unit needed to lower its profile, it could simply squat.  If it needed to lower its profile even further, it could, from a squat, swing forward so that its torso and head were just above the ground.  It could still ambulate (slowly, but more quickly than a human crawling) in this position.  If it had to crawl to transit under low wires or through small gaps etc, it will be able to do so on the tips of its toes and elbows, keeping its central core off the ground by an inch or so.  All in all, the knee pads achieve nothing except to impede full limb motion.

- Separate individual weapon seems like an obvious SPOF.  The weapon should be clamped, probably, to the torso on a fifth "limb" so that the drone can release it if necessary, deploy it at speed or even manipulate it to fire without manual handling (although there is a good tactical argument for retaining the manual handling element of the IW.

- Boots also seem superfluous on a unit that has interchangeable feet.
MoonGoneDark's avatar
Full fingers is likely for communication gestures and proper handling of weapons/objects designed for human hands- both of which would be critical for a military unit.
Jumping to the immediate conclusion that "five fingers is wrong" without second thought seems like the "wrong" thing to do if you ask me.
:)

Furthermore, when I saw this I assumed the knee pads are to add a little protection to the joints from impact. The shoulder joints also have this feature, which supports this.
precinctomega's avatar
I can see what you say on the fingers. But you could achieve the same effect with four fingers and have one fewer sub-limb to manufacture and maintain (and go wrong).

As for the pads, if the joints need protection then it should be built into the frame. Why risk the pads falling down our being ripped off in combat if they are important to maintaining operational effectiveness?

Of course, all of that is irrelevant if the point, as duster123 suggests, is purely aesthetic. My comments are based on imagining that this is a real military infantry drone.
MoonGoneDark's avatar
That's incorrect. You could not achieve the full range of hand gestures and sign languages with less than 5 fingers.
Having a full set also reduces loss of significant stability should a single digit be removed.

Okay, so the pads are aesthetic. That makes sense wih the dressing stages of the machine; it's illustrated to appear more human on the outside.
precinctomega's avatar
Well, not if you're trying to speak BSL or ASL, no.  But for combat purposes four fingers should be more than sufficient.

However, I had originally thought that drones would communicate by short-wave burst transmission encryptions.  But whilst that might well be a primary communications medium (plus remote operators can just shout at each other across the operations room!), I can see a strong argument that manual sign language could have a powerful tactical benefit and, yes, five fingers would potentially give the units a broader range of communications which, for programmable drones, could be far more elaborate and precise than traditional combat sign language - or even ASL/BSL.

So I concede your point.

Again, I'm not trying to argumentative or really have a go at duster123's illustration, which I love.  This is just an interesting debate about the design principles behind a remote infantry drone that might look like this.  This has certainly given me some useful ideas I'd not considered before.  So thanks to all for chipping in.
MoonGoneDark's avatar
Of course, because human soldiers and civilians all communicate using "short-wave burst transmission encryptions"

Sigh, I really think you've seen an artist's small concept and spent all day over-thinking it just to leave a "legit critique" on it with no real credibility. People who attempt this usually do so for attention. Well, you had mine for a short time. I hope you have fun working on your fantasy drone ideas.
precinctomega's avatar
I do have fun working on this sort of idea.  I thought I was communicating with other people who also had fun doing so.  As far as whether I'm doing this "for attention", this is my book:

www.amazon.co.uk/Horizon-Wars-…

I'm doing it for research while I finalize my manuscript.

*Now* I'm doing it for attention. :D
Egxe's avatar
good points but i dont agree with your second thought if this robot was main character it should act like a human so people can relate to him more (if this robot was used in a movie or a video game) in movie chappie chappie had metal eyebrows for example but if these robots were part of some kind of army where they were not special i can see that unhuman movement working
precinctomega's avatar
Granted, if it were a movie character intended to evoke sympathy, then anthropocentric motion would be useful. But for a "real" infantry drone, inhuman action would be a strategic advantage as drones that are visibly non-human wouldn't evoke empathy in the minds of media viewers back home.

I still love this design.
the17thsailor's avatar
All these are valid points, but I wonder if the robot wasn't designed to work with standard gear instead of specialized gear, or, to be not noticeably different from a human soldier in the heat of combat.
zattdott's avatar
how to dress your robot soldier in three easy steps... awesome!
SpikeLupin's avatar
Catches the eye.  clean and clear visuals, with nice design.
TinkerTanker44432's avatar
Sooo robo soldiers?
PavelTomashevskiy's avatar
nice ones. really like your hand-drawn graphic style
SlightlySneaky's avatar
Are you using both a 3d and painting program? Also great job
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