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Jace and Jace Enjoyment Crossover by dragondoodle Jace and Jace Enjoyment Crossover by dragondoodle
:giggle: The sixth task for :iconoc-training:, :iconulario: suggested that the two Jaces should be together . . . and it turned out quite fun :giggle: They're so different in many ways but the Captain is always open to new information/experiences. So here is Captain Jace Pyrs showing Pilot Jace Penbrooke around the Kingdom of Doumerlas on horseback. Doumerlas has some pretty odd geography, being a very fertile kingdom on the edge of a supposedly impassible desert, so there's a lot of very interesting and beautiful rock formations :nod: I always imagine the painted desert tossed down right next to Ireland. :XD: Green against red desert rock. With a lot of stone architecture to add to the oddness. :nod:

The surprising part of all this for me is that he actually does look like he's enjoying himself :wow: This was the one assignment I was dreading because he's such a grump. All it took was an anthro airplane pilot to get him animated. :shrug: I suspect it was the introduction she gave him to airplanes in Ulario's part - [OC Training] Jace And Jace by Ulario

Jace Penbrook belongs to :iconulario:

Captain Jace Pyrs belongs to me :icondragondoodle: aka :icongirl-n-herhorse:


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:iconinkpawstudio777:
InkPawStudio777 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Jace and Jace!!! XD Love it...

Looks like she's enjoying herself. *w*

Horses are HARD to draw!!! O.O It's no surprise you're so good at them, given the fact that it's a core element in your story. :D
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think she is :giggle:

They are but you're right, I get a lot of practice with them between the Transformed and the Centaurs :XD:

Next OC Training is going to be interesting . . . looks like I'm going to do a character from my sci-fi story. No horses ;P
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InkPawStudio777 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
^^

Nice. *w*

Oh really! O.O I think that's a first! :D
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NieEngel Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think this turned out lovely! I'm especially impressed with the horses, since they're so hard to draw x3
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! They are tricky, I'm getting better but I still have to look at references (especially for those legs :faint:)
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NieEngel Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Using references is totally fine, though.
No one can draw everything from memory~
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Funniest part though, I've gotten so used to horse legs that I have a hard time with dog/cat legs now ^^; They're so different! :XD:
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NieEngel Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh no =o
I think drawing cat/dog legs is very fun~
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It is . . . but you get used to one thing and it's harder to do other stuff (at least for me ^^;) Luckily my daughter is quite good at animals so she gave me some assistance :nod:
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NieEngel Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aw, that's nice ^^
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kopfschmerztablette Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
wow, first off, I loove the horses!! Can't draw them for the life of me so I'm ever-amazed by people who can haha
They look like they're enjoying themselves ;) Love the Jace and Jace thing, and also love how you make their differences both in appearance and timeline work together so well!
The background is super nice as well, especially love the wall lol


Great job!!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Horses are one of those things that you just have to draw a lot to get better at. I'm still not at the point I'd like to be on those legs, but it gets better every time :nod:

Thank you! This was a fun crossover for a lot of reasons :giggle:
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DihyaJam96 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
WOW this artwork is amazing! You cared all the details and the horses are very beautiful :) Good job!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :aww:
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pheeph Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Horse riding... a common pastime...
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One of the few ways to travel fast in my world :giggle: Unless you can make a deal with a centaur ;)
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DrZime Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Woah, nice work! I love all the detail you put into this!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :aww:
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charcoalfeather Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Lovely work on the horses and I love how they're enjoying their time together! 
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :aww:
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Ulario Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
This turned out fantastic!  I love all the little details that you did with the background!  :)
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! And thank you again for suggesting this crossover! :aww:
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NakainRimmel Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Student General Artist
She looks smug, and he looks entertained, and her horse is looking at me funny XD Nice work!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:XD: Thank you! Yeah, that horse is giving the viewer the side eye for sure :XD:
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MercenaryBlade Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
Nicely done, I like how his horse has a braided mane, and that you gave the other Jace a pony cause she's short.
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I figured the Captain would have a horse with a braided mane and tail, seemed right :giggle: She's on a standard horse, (admitedly smaller Arabian or Morgan type), he's on his military draft horse (got to be big for armor/weapons/transport) :nod:
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MercenaryBlade Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
Ah. that makes sense, I can see now why the Europeans called rabians ponies in the crusades, they do look like ponies compared to large warhorses. I've had plenty of experience with those big draft horses back when I was a renfair squire, they love to stand on your feet.
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly! :giggle:

Oh ouch. That's a lot of hoof on a foot :(
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rainbow000pegasus Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Student General Artist
Lovely work! I really like how you did the horses!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :aww:
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rainbow000pegasus Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Student General Artist
You're welcome!
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GrantExploit Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel compelled to address one part of your description scientifically: "Doumerlas has some pretty odd geography, being a very fertile kingdom on the edge of a supposedly impassible desert, so there's a lot of very interesting and beautiful rock formations Nod I always imagine the painted desert tossed down right next to Ireland. XD Green against red desert rock. With a lot of stone architecture to add to the oddness. Nod"

First, "supposedly impassible desert". Of course, the degree to which terrain is impassible depends on your investment and technology. For example, the Ancient Egyptians couldn't travel long distances through the Sahara as they lacked camels, forcing them to use donkeys that consume 4 times more water. Once camels were introduced to Africa, caravans across the Sahara trading gold, salt, ivory, and slaves started up. If the Doumerlatians(?) have camels or camel analogues, then an impassible desert would have to be even larger and even more arid than the Sahara. That doesn't mean that they would spend the effort to cross a smaller desert—for instance, you can cross the Darién Impenetrable Rainforest on wheels, you "just" need some ATVs, a lot of spares and supplies, a lot of vaccinations, a machete, and a month or two... but would you?

Secondly (addressing the main point), most true deserts are surrounded by semi-arid areas which, while in some locations are well suited to grazing, are typically not moist enough to support arable agriculture of all but the most drought-hardy of crops. There are a couple of exceptions—or apparent exceptions—to that rule. The first examples are locations like Commerson Crater on Réunion, Rangiroa in New Zealand, and certain locations in the highlands of Iceland. All of these are relatively barren, with visible erosion and little vegetation, yet are surrounded by verdant areas. This is because they are all recent volcanic landscapes and actually experience so much precipitation that vegetation cannot become established in the exposed rock. Areas further behind the mountains of Doumerlas could be truly arid. 

The second example is the Loess Plateau in China. While this does indeed have a climate that borders between humid and semi-arid, the monsoon rains in the summer provide ample rain for agriculture and make the area green in summer, unlike mediterranean areas with similar precipitation which typically have a semi-arid character in the summer. However, the fertile soil of the area is highly erodible—indeed, it is a primary source of the 黄河's namesake yellow mud—so much of the area is badlands, either natural or created through poor farming practices. To the east lies the fertile North China plains, to the west the steppes and deserts of the Gobi.


That said, I like really like how you portrayed Pembrooke and Pyrs. :) (Smile) Seeing her on a horse makes her seem more, *ahem* down to Earth.
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Edited Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist

*cracks knuckles* I love these kinds of questions because I get to go into detail. :evillaugh:

To address your first point, everyone in the known world assumes that the desert is impassible because no one has come from it nor has anyone who has entered it ever returned in recorded history. Not to say that in the future it might be traversed, but there is something decidedly odd and eerie about the desert. As my character Yokov once observed - The desert stretched off to the east of them and was visible from the road. It wasn’t a gradual shift but an abrupt change from forest to rock and then deep barren trenches and canyons as far as the eye could see beyond. They said it was caused by the Gods’ War many many years ago. Nothing grew in the desert and nothing lived there. Rivers either stopped abruptly at the border, went underground, or skirted the outer borders of it like a protective barrier. It was said that no one who had tried to cross the desert had ever returned to say what was beyond it, if there was anything beyond, and no one had ever come from the desert indicating there was anyone living there. Nothing could grow on that hard, rocky ground either. Farmers had tried and failed and finally given up.

Addressing your second point I need to reference the above excerpt. This is not a “natural” desert, but one that came into existence due to extreme magical upheaval about 300 years ago. Before that, it was a temperate rainforest (but no mortal knows that, only the world’s gods ;) ). There are many odd geographical things going in the entire world, not just on the border of Doumerlas. North of Doumerlas there is an entire city build on what they call “Gods Glass” which is like obsidian. This is not from any volcanic activity, but from powerful magical forces melting the rock. The world (which I call Wayu for now until I come up with something better) does not have a known ocean either. I’ll be addressing that quirk in my NaNoWriMo story next month :nod:  Just north and west of Doumerlas there is a plateau above the desert that is more like the high plateaus of Idaho.

All of this makes me realize that I really need to make a map of my world, just to show how weird the whole situation is. Also to show that many of the geographical features look suspiciously like huge giants got smashed into the ground ;P

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GrantExploit Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
OK. :) (Smile) Magic out-sciences science, I guess. Giggle

Hmm, looking forward to your story! And I liek maps...
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Magic can mess up science something fierce. One of the reasons I love knowing geography as well as I do, I know exactly what would be incredibly abnormal :nod: Of course, this is more than simple magic, this is gods mucking about with things so all bets are off when you try to explain some of the things scientifically. :XD: The whole issue with my world right now is that the gods who caused this mess in the first place are being punished and have to fix it before their punishment is over. Makes for some very complicated scheming on their parts. Unfortunately for the mortals on the world ^^;

Thanks. I like looking at maps. Hate attempting to draw them ^^; Probably why I haven't done it.
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GrantExploit Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah. :) (Smile) Anyway, thanks.

BTW, I'm planning on joining OC-training whenever my conventional art skills are good enough. If you're still working on the stories and world of Wayu by then... there may be quite a contrast (the world I'm developing is about as hard and materialist as they come). ;) (Wink)
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cool! OC Training is awesome :nod:

I'll probably be working on my Wayu stories until I die (started thirteen years ago and they just keep going :XD:)
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GrantExploit Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
O_o Oh really... I've been working on It's a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow for 2 years (the aforementioned universe) and Àli Dãn Celec (my longest-lived universe and a bit less of a mundane one) for 8 years. But then again, I'm 18, not... however old you are. :) (Smile)
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm 47 ;)
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LadyLing Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018
you always do such a fabulous job on horses!!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! :aww:
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Drayah Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
This is so fun! I love that the two Jace's teamed up! What are the odds that there would be two with the same unique name! :D

They look like they're enjoying themselves. Nice job on the horses too!
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Funny coincidence, especially since they're even different genders :giggle:

Thank you! :aww:
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Birdhousebirdy Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
That's awesome that the two Jaces got to meet! :D 
I love that they both are really happy. :) Great job with the picture! 
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It was a lot of fun :nod: :giggle: Thank you! :aww:
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AaronBrawnstone Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jace and Jace look like they're having a great time! XD

I love how you did the grass and shadows. You did amazing! ^v^ 
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They are :giggle: I imagine they're learning a lot about each other's worlds as well :nod:

Thank you! The grass is a brush that comes with Photoshop :nod:
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Helladelic Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018   Digital Artist
Oh my god, this is such a beautifully done piece! :D I love the colouring and attention to details here and how incredibly well Jace translates into your style! xD You also did a fantastic job on the horses here too btw! It's interesting to see both Jaces interact, I love how happy they look! They may share a name, but they're both so very different! :D Excellent work! 
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dragondoodle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It was so amusing when I saw that they had the same name I jumped at the chance to put them together for this assignment :nod: :giggle:

She was so fun to draw, I especially love her tail :love:
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