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Layers of German irredentism - Pangermanism by Dom-Bul Layers of German irredentism - Pangermanism by Dom-Bul
Updated finally at last
Layer 1 - Germany today
Layer 2 - Weimar Republic territory (Pomerania, Silesia, East Prussia) + Memelland, Danzig, Alsace-Lorraine, Eupen-Malmedy
Layer 3 - German Empire territory (West Prussia, Posen, further Silesia, Northern Schleswih-Holstein)
Layer 4 - classic Greater Germany: Austria, South Tyrol, Sudetenland, Gottschee, Luxembourg
Layer 5 - Bohemia, Moravia, the Netherlands, South Styria/Carniola, German Switzerland
Layer 6 - basically the HRE: Belgium, former germanic France, all of Lorraine, all of Switzerland, Veneto (Venedig) region, Friuli (Friaul), former Austrian Littoral (Kustenland), Pressburg (Bratislava) area, WW2 Banat, all of Denmark + Faer Oer
Layer 7 - major former (pre-WW2) German settlements in Eastern Europe (Germans in Poland, Hungary, Banat, Galicia, Volhynia, Ukraine, Transylvania Saxons), former Volga German ASSR, Baltenland (Estonia and Latvia), Crimea (Krim) and Taurica (Gotenland)
Layer 8 - traditional Pan-Germanism: Great Britain, Ireland, Northern France up to the Seine, Northern Italy up to the Po, all of former Austria-Hungary + occupied territories, Congress Poland, Lithuania, Sweden, Norway + Svalbard/Jan Mayen, Iceland, Greenland
Layer 9 - 3rd Reich claims in the former USSR
Tell me anything I missed/made wrong =D
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:iconalexanderabelard:
AlexanderAbelard Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
No German regime has ever claimed Finland, apparently.
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:iconmobiyuz:
Mobiyuz Featured By Owner May 17, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No Neuschwabenland?
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner May 20, 2018
:thinking: 
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:icontheko9isalive:
TheKo9IsAlive Featured By Owner May 28, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you add that you need to add all the other colonies and mittelafrika. 
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner May 31, 2018
That would need a separate German Empire irredentism map...
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:icontheflagandanthemguy:
TheFlagandAnthemGuy Featured By Owner May 12, 2018
"Northern Italy up to the Po"

*insert Padania joke here*
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:iconrobeatnix:
Robeatnix Featured By Owner Edited Mar 11, 2018
My suggestion for the layers:

Level 0: Germany today
Level 1: Weimar Republic
Level 2: German Empire
Level 3: Pan-Germanism without Switzerland (Level 2, Austria, Sudetenland, South Tyrol (without Trentino), Luxemburg)
Level 4: German Confederation Territory + Prussia (Level 3, Böhmen, Mähren, Krain, Istrien, Trentino)
Level 5: Pan-Germanism with Switzerland (Level 4, Switzerland)
Level 6: Teutonic Order Territory: (Level 5, Kurland, Livland, Estland, Lettgallen)
Level 7: Holy Roman Empire (Level 6, Netherlands, Belgium, French Territories, Northern Italy)
Level 8: Pan-Germanicism: (Level 7, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, all German exclaves)
Level 9: Lebensraum

My favorite solution is Level 6.
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:iconzwaart:
Zwaart Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2018
I would add the mighty Liechtenstein at Level 3.
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:iconrobeatnix:
Robeatnix Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2018
Totally forgot about it.
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:iconiasonkeltenkreuzler:
IasonKeltenkreuzler Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Made in Greater Germany gold by Arminius1871
I Support these Borders with Theodoro as a Colony :3
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018
I'm updating it, almost done! =D
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:iconiasonkeltenkreuzler:
IasonKeltenkreuzler Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Nice!
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cervuselaphus Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018
These borders in Poland, what is it? Third partition like? WW1 aims? WW2 borders? Or "natural borders" on Visla and Varta or Pilica? (it doesn ´t look like anything of this, I think, especially that "southeastern Prussia"... or is it "Bezirk Byalistok"?)
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018
I know, I'm fixing it, almost done. I noticed that the border weren't based on anything really, and in the update will be based on pre-WW1 and WW2 claims.
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:iconlordelpresidente:
lordelpresidente Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahhhh yes... the Theodoro Claim on Crimea

Who would not forget that Theodoro even exist? ;p
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:iconlorec10:
LoreC10 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018
IMHO Austria (and probably also Alto Adige) comes on the same level of Alsace…or maybe you could make a new intermediate level for it…
I would also put German speaking Switzerland in now Austrian color…
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018
Sì, la devo modificare sicuramente
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:iconlorec10:
LoreC10 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 25, 2018
Non sarebbe meglio abbassare di uno il livello del Trentino e alzare di uno quello delle Fiandre mostrandoli entrambi al livello della Svizzera Tedesca e dei Paesi Bassi?
Inoltre potresti includere l’Emilia, la Liguria e la Toscana che prima del 1648 erano (de jure) parte del Sacro Romano Impero…
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2018
Non lo so, perchè insieme all'Austria ho integrato direttamente anche le rivendicazioni austriache
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:iconlorec10:
LoreC10 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 25, 2018
Si ma, in fondo lo stesso vale per la Boemia e la Moravia, anche quelle erano parti allofone all’interno di province in parte germanofone, penso che il colore debba essere lo stesso del Trentino.
Ho anche aggiornato il commento, forse non hai visto il mio aggiornamento ma userei il colore dei Paesi Bassi anche per le Fiandre e poi puoi aggiungere la Toscana, l’Emilia e la Liguria che prima del 1648 erano (de jure) parte del Sacro Romano Impero…
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2018
Dato che è diviso in livelli, penso che il Sudetenland sia ad un livello di irredentismo più "alto" del resto della Boemia e Moravia (nel senso che dovrebbe essere più ambito); stessa cosa per i Paesi Bassi. Per quanto riguarda Toscana, Emilia e Liguria, dubito che siano reclamati ancora da qualcuno, nemmeno dai più ultra-nazionalisti...
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:iconlorec10:
LoreC10 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2018
Appunto, ma lo stesso vale per il Tirolo Tedesco e il “Tirolo Italiano”, se si usa lo stesso criterio…
Ehm, la nazione “Paesi Bassi” è tanto Neerlandofona quanto le Fiandre eh! Anzi, ti dirò di più, nelle Fiandre il sentimento Pangermanista è stato storicamente molto più sviluppato che nell’Olanda stessa, questo si osserva bene nel rapporto tra popolazioni locali e Tedeschi nelle occupazioni durante le due Guerre Mondiali ed è sopratutto dovuto al fatto che in Olanda non ci sono che Germanici e quindi sono “tra loro”, per così dire, al contrario in Belgio ci sono anche i Latini e c’è sempre stata una contrapposizione “noi contro loro”.
Beh ma anche rivendicare gran parte della Russia, meh…cioè sarebbe proprio il livello più chiaro di tutti però secondo me ci sta…
Comunque giudica te! :)
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:iconlorec10:
LoreC10 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018
ok
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2018
Lol cool XD If you add exclaves you could also take Siebenbürgen maybe.
And Scandinavia if you want to add 3. Reich claims too^^
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018
Yes I have to update this ^^'
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018
If you go full Holy Roman Empire, you could go down to Sicily XD lol
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:icondom-bul:
Dom-Bul Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018
It depends, if irredentist claims like this still exist today then I'll do it
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:iconarminius1871:
Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2018
No not really XD don´t do it then.
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kyuzoaoi Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2018   Artist
Germans in Crimea!
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