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Here's a topic I've been meaning to write about for quite some time now. The internet is filled with opinions and theories and discussions about kinky stuff; why it's good for us, why it's bad for us, why it's perfectly healthy, why it's perfectly sick. I don't expect or intend what I write here to shed new light on the topic. I only wish to express my own opinions on erotic art, and in so doing, give you folks some insight into why I do what I do.

Erotica, dark fantasies, kinky, bondage, peril, pain, domination, the list of words and phrases we could use to describe this collection goes on, and often the word or phrase we use is emotionally loaded to tell you what we think and feel about it. People who look at my work and call it, "violence against women" are clearly people who feel negatively about my work, and frankly, I think they miss the point.

Saying that some of my work depicts violence against women is not wrong. The mistake is in assuming that what I depict in fantasy is what I support in reality. Here's a paragraph I wrote to one of my friends here on DA that summarizes what I think it all means.

"When an image (or story) of a victim suffering or even dying seems erotic to us, I believe it is because on some level we are seeing that victim as a hero, and there is a great psychological benefit we receive in identifying with the suffering of a hero. This happens not only in the fringe media, but in the mainstream media as well. If you have friends who are Star Wars fans, ask around and see how many of them think that the scene of Luke Skywalker being tortured by the Emperor's Force Lightning is totally hot."

And part of a note to another DA friend...

"I find dark fantasies to be quite healthy. While "outsiders" see this as a glorification of violence, I find that it is usually the victim that is glorified. That's why we make her beautiful, and in a way, she is the hero. There is a psychological benefit to imagining the hero suffering and even dying. The benefit varies, but as an example, sometimes when we put ourselves in the position of the hero/victim, we are dealing with our own suffering, and making ourselves the heroes in our lives.

"It's found in mainstream media quite a lot; the hero suffers and may even die. In spite of the suffering and even death, we want to identify with the hero and see ourselves as heroic. In the mainstream media, the hero is usually fighting for a cause, but not always. When we cross from mainstream to erotica, we are adding sex. Why? Because our sex drive is a very primal and powerful motivator. Making it erotic affects us on a visceral rather than intellectual level, and so the benefits can go much deeper. It just requires that we be able to set aside our cultural taboos first.

"As long as it remains fantasy, it's healthy. Luke Skywalker being tortured by Force lightning is exciting because brings his heroism into sharp focus, but we wouldn't want that to happen to a real person. When we start wanting real people to suffer, then we are getting into mental illness. Well, unless it's consensual pain, but that's another story."

I would like to quote George Carlin. "There are no bad words. Bad thoughts, bad intentions, and words."

That's how I feel about the pictures. There are no bad pictures. If I make a picture of violence against a woman and my intention is to encourage violence against women, then this would be a bad intention behind that picture. Of course there are those who will say that the pictures are harmful regardless of what my intentions are, but I believe those people have not examined the issues closely enough.

I'm into quite a few kinks; bondage, torture, and several forms of death including strangulation, vore, drowning, other forms of asphyxiation, and stabbing. Obviously some of these are things I'm into only in fiction, but some are things I like to act out with a consenting adult. The unifying theme in all of them is peril. There are plenty of kinks I'm not into, including forms of degradation involving excrement, fisting, and women using high heels to crush goldfish. I'm not into those, but I can understand why some people would be, and I can see how it can be healthy. I may look and say, "Eeuw," and feel a little sick, but I don't think it's wrong; it's just not for me.

I think my earliest discovery that I was into some kinky stuff was when I was introduced to the covers of some old "True Detective" type magazine covers. I didn't understand at the time why I was turned on, and wondered whether something was wrong with me. Eventually I got around to accepting it by telling myself that it might be wrong, but only in a small way, and maybe imagining it was a way for my dark side to satisfy some need without actually acting out on it. I finally came around to understanding that this explanation was wrong. I didn't have some desire to hurt women. In fact, I generally found myself identifying with the woman being hurt rather than with the man or woman doing the hurting.

So what I'm saying is, it's not enough to say that these kinks are harmless. They are actually helpful and healthy. I don't consciously do it for mental health reasons; I do it because it's a hell of a lot of fun. Lot's of things are like that. Dancing may be good exercise, but most of us do it because it's fun.

The health benefit is just a bonus.


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ValMcJames Featured By Owner Edited Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
My Musings on Erotic Peril and Death

I will think out loud and see where this takes me. I am only speaking for myself here, and do not mean to imply I am "right," nor do I condemn anyone else's point of view.

1) When I was still relatively young, I remember reading or viewing something that made me aware there are people in the world who, if given the chance, would kidnap an innocent little girl and torture her by doing unspeakably vile sexual things and then kill her (possibly orgasming in the act of snuffing out her life) and discard her body in a ditch like so much trash.

Needless to say, this shocked my young self and contributed to what became a probably excessive vigilance for self-protection.

If I ever see an image of what was done to such a sweet, young girl, then I will dare to say it is a picture of something so bad that it only needs to exist for police to catch the criminals and could, in some sense, be called a "bad picture."

2) When I was young, and throughout my entire life, I have watched wrestling with varying degrees of enthusiasm. Every time one of the good guys or gals would get double-teamed by the bad guys or gals, my body would react so strongly to my hero or heroine looking helpless and in danger they seemed unable to escape from.

It was a thrilling reaction that eventually took on hints of arousal as I grew older. When the endangered wrestler valiantly fought free and tagged off, or his/her partner heroically came to the rescue, I reveled in the fresh partner kicking the butts of both opponents.

So I, too, understand the hero being subjected to pain, but my satisfaction is found only in eventual triumph and not in defeat. I can't bring myself to enjoy death, especially of a hero or heroine.

3) I empathize with the hero or heroine, putting myself in their place. If I imagine this protagonist feels some pain, strain, and extreme effort, I am effectively saying I want myself to be so heroic.

But when the protagonist is tortured, suffers bloodshed, or is killed, I cease enjoying the fantasy because I am then imagining my own mutilation, crippling, or death and that would become a combined desire for self-destruction and destruction of the person I am empathizing with.

This would explain my preference for empathizing with a protagonist's sexual peril and arousal. It becomes my own arousal I am seeking, and to desire my own pleasure and the pleasure of the hero or heroine seems to at least be non-destructive, if not beneficial.

It is strange why the non-consensual aspect only heightens the arousal, but it may be my wish fulfillment of being so desirable to someone that they can't stop wanting to give me pleasure and find their own arousal through enjoying my arousal. I desire to be desirable and want to be wanted, after all, and my mind can bypass the non-consent so long as the protagonist (and therefore myself) is not permanently injured or harmed in some way.


None of this has anything to do with real life though. Real rape or torture or murder is non-consensual violence that can only be enjoyed by someone who has lost touch with reality and short-circuited any capacity to feel empathy for another human being. Such perpetrators are literally sick at such a deep level of their being that it is truly horrifying and revolting to see the depths of depravity mankind can sink to.

And that is why the world needs Wonder Woman. It may sound trite to say that "only love can change the world," but Diana is right. If "love" encompasses empathy, compassion, kindness, concern, mercy, generosity, and self-sacrifice, then by the king of the gods we all need love and to show love or we are doomed to kill each other in a selfish, dog-eat-dog living nightmare.

It's not about what they "deserve," it's about what YOU believe!
Aletessa Featured By Owner May 27, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
There are people who've hurt me,* and left scars that last a long time after they've left my life.  Erotic peril lets me be hurt again, but this time on my own terms, in a way that will never scar me.  And by people who exist only for me; where I get to be the one who walks away, leaving them trapped in the moment of my torment until I'm ready to take some time in it again.

From a less maudlin perspective, I'm also asexual.  I'll never want sex with another person as long as I live.  But I still get sexual feelings, which is a bit of a paradox.  Erotic peril lets me resolve it, by picturing myself having no choice.

* Not sexually, other ways.
TomboyJanet Featured By Owner May 11, 2018  Student General Artist
Same with the first part. It takes power away from the big scary crap out there and makes me gain pleasure instead. Idk how into Death I am I teeter back and fourth. The Thing Is I get mad when girls die in fiction cuz I'm like great now we only have male heroes or god damn it she was so awesome now I don't get to see her any more. BOO!! But at the same time there is something about me that gets off on ULTIMATE humiliation and degradation as long as it's not real. I know this because real feelings of that only make me mad, but without it mattering it just arouses me. Sometimes small embarrassments in public turn me on too. like if someone like pranked me or like jumped and tied me with duct tape and sprayed a water gun at me or wrote on my face or something, that usually gets me hot. That's why I loved like camp games where you get to do stuff like that as a kid and sometimes I'd let the cute guys catch me on the boys team just to experience it. Of course I got them just as much times too, and sometimes that turned me on too in a different way. My dominant feelings are actually totally different than sub feelings so much so that it feels like another universe. But that's another story. 

But back to the point, Death fet allows me the feeling of ultimate defeat and the humiliation of my worst most shitty moment being sexualized by others and not prevented because of that (like a witness jerking it instead of helping me out of quicksand or a devouring beast) or initiated because of that, (being hung and felt up, drowning in the doms fetish object of choice) I can just ride on the humiliation of that. I do have death fet fantasies rarely, but when I do I do not imagine any extreme pain or sadness. That's not sexy to me. It's the humiliation and the OMG how is this happening to the strong me? that I like 
Genie-Girl Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017
wow good point and I think for the girl going threw it it is about. giving full trust to other person. like I trust you to give me pleasure and only some pain ot make the pleasure that much more pleasurable. it is not about the victim being the victim for the girl, more like. showing a form of trust to the DOM to know the right balance for the sub. as for dark fanties I think this still holds true. to feel helpless yet in control at the same time. to experiance new forms of pleasure. not just the ones based on common practice. 

So in short for woman into dark fanties, it is about being both the victim and yet being in control of the level of pain mixed with pleasure.
DNeil Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While my post focused mostly on the kinky stuff in pictures and fiction, you make some good observations about kinky play with one or more partners. Although the women who have consented to let me make pictures of them trust me to respect their limits, this is a much bigger part of kinky physical interaction between (or among) consenting adults.
Genie-Girl Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
yeah that i why I asked you to let me join the others girls becuase I noticed you repecepted what the girls were into
G-cat Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I'm a macro lover on the side of cruel I love the giant girls to torment the heck out of the tiny ones.

I have always wondered if it tied into my inferiority complex but overall I normally can't explain why i like what I do I just like it
DNeil Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a tendency to analyze the hell out of things, but most of the time I'm the same way; I like what I like and I don't constantly think about why I like it. Mostly it's just important to know that there's nothing wrong with feeling what we feel, and it's even healthy. :)

Thanks for commenting.
G-cat Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Honestly as long as you don't do it irl I think it's fine
ClarkSavage Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
I can appreciate your art and I don't care for the death themes and vore. That's a preference not a judgement. I do like sexy women and damsel in distress type scenarios.
I can enjoy you art on that level. You have your interests and I have mine. There is an area where they overlap and I think that's great. Fantasy and Reality are too different things. That's not a difficult concept to understand.

If we all liked the same thing or to be more blunt all got turned on by the same things, life and the world would be dull. :)
DNeil Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sure. When I see a scene that has a bunch of elements in it that I find hot, but a few elements that are turn-offs, I can usually rewrite it in my head and still enjoy it. There are a few turn-offs that are so strong I can't do that, but usually I can.
ClarkSavage Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
Exactly what I meant to say! :D
eveperry1 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2016
Great article. Like you, I found myself identifying with the tortured woman. Unlike you, I'm not into death, but only the sexual, physical, and mental humiliation of being stripped naked and tied in compromising positions. Some pain and torture excites me. But not blood or permanent markings in role plays with trusted partners.
DNeil Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome! I initially found it strange that I was into death, but not into having the villain insult the victim, at least not in such a way that implied the victim was worthless. It's like, "Go ahead and kill her, but don't use harsh language." It looked strange until I dug deeper and started to understand where it was coming from.

Again, as with the other things I listed that I'm not into, I totally get it why some people are.
OdinVonD Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015
Well said, bud! I think about this a lot too and I've never considered thinking of the victim as the hero. It makes a lot of sense! 
DNeil Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. About half of this stuff, including the hero part, comes from many long discussions with a very dear and brilliant friend of mine.
DaleCar Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good write up on the subject
DNeil Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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