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Simba vs Simba
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Published: November 8, 2011
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EDIT 7/21/13 -Wow, still getting comments on this one? XD
Again, guys.... This whole thing is Half a joke. While the changes actually DO kind of bother me between the first and second films... it doesn't mean that I am raging mad about this. This is meant to be funny, but obviously the jokes will cater more to people who agree with the jokes. So if you take offense to this or if you think I really am soo raging angry about this? Lighten up. I do actually enjoy the second TLK film. Mostly for the Outlanders, but never the less I do enjoy it. For what it was the animation was as good as it was going to get. And it's sort of impressive at some points. But yes, different teams of animators, different studios, and look at what it had to live up to. My Goodness, TLK1 is a tough act to follow.

One of the reasons why such a change would bother me, is because as an artist who draws these characters, I like to be as on model as I can. And I get so used to the way they look in one film (the first film), that such a jarring change can be, well, jarring. And can just "urk" me or any other artist who feels the same way. That's it. The changes didn't really bother me much as a kid, though I noticed them, and only REALLY started to become a bit more noticeable when I got into drawing fan-art for the movie.

So again, guys, these are jokes. It's not like I am taking such offense to the changes. They just bother me.

EDIT 1/22/13- Okay guys, seeing as I am STILL getting comments on this one. let point out a few things....

1. This whole thing is Half a joke. While the changes actually DO bother me between the first and second films... it doesn't mean that I am raging mad about this.

2. "Oh there were different artists working on the films".
Yes, that is true. Both movies were made at different studios with different teams of artists. But I have seen FAN-artists who draw fairly on model to the first film, if they can do it, why couldn't professional artists??

3. "They had a cub, maybe they are older now?"
Okay... the last scene in the first film is supposed to be the first scene in the second film. The characters looks quite different. I used the color refs from both scenes, which are supposed to be the same scene. In-yet there are still those differences. It just boils down to this, and I remember seeing this on a special behind the scenes feature for the second film. They wanted to show pride rock from a darker side, which is why they darkened the whole movie. From an artistic point of view? Sure I can see it. But on a design point of view? They still changed some things about the characters. Color wise, shape wise, and soo on, that did not need to be changed. Again, different companies made the films. With different teams of artists.
But still, they didn't have to Mufasa-ize Simba. And make Nala more mature looking(and dipped in bleach, her eyes are blur green, not lightning blue!!). Especially since not that much time goes by, if any at all between the ending of the first film, and the start of the second. Even so, the rest of the second film? While Kiara is still a cub, I dont think there'd be much of a difference in their designs. Because technically that's just months going buy, as lions age faster than humans do. But when Kiara is a young adult? THEN I can see them being aged more. Because that could have been longer, maybe a year or two?

However, not matter what we say, do, or try to rationalize as fans of these films. The fact of the matter is that there are still differences. And that's that.

So you can stop commenting "maybe they're older? They had babies! Different artists made the films" because
1. I know.
2. Soo many other people have left me those comments over and over again, so you don't really need to. Or fish through the comments and see if someone has already commented what you wanna comment. Because it's getting irritating. I could solve it by disabling comments. But I don't really want to.
End Edit.

NO you may NOT use this image for basing,copying,tracing,altering,RPing, personal character pictures, commercial use, re-uploading, blah blah BLAH ETC.....

After receiving a call from Nala about her stunt double Moira getting her role in the second TLK film.... Simba decided to make a surprise visit to the set.... Only to meet the same fate... Even he was being shut out of the second film! And was being replaced by his stunt double Matt!!!
Simba caused an Uproar (pun intended) and was escorted off set. Called his lawyer, and lost his case! When he asked the question of "Why" ...... he was told "Matt costs less money than you Simba..... So the creators of the film were looking to save a buck, because you are just TOO expensive......"

Hurrr hurr huur........ I drew this because I KNEW people were gonna ask for it, and amazingly enough, I'm surprised I actually stomached it. His design in the second film bothered me soo much that sometimes my stomach turns!


Soo here you have it,
On the left we have Simba from the first film, A young adult with a full mane, soo we know he's not a teen.... and then on the right, we have older Simba from TLK2......much more rounder, darker, FATTER, and a huge mane...... Basically, trying to "Mufasa-ize" him in the second film.... but to me, they failed. Mufasa was more muscular and defined without being ripped, and yes, Mufasa had a belly to him, and a huge nose.
Before anyone goes "Oh he grew up and had more food in the second film!!"

1. Even though he lived off bugs in the first film.... he was STILL thicker than Scar..... And Scar got all the food, even though there was a lack of food..... he still ate more than the rest of the lionesses and hyena, because he's selfish.... and the only ones who complained of no food were Nala and the hyena....... So though he obviously did have more food, thats still no reason for him to have BALLOONED up in the second film, honestly they seemed to have tried to make him seem like Mufasa, and again.... That ended in a fat FAIL.

2. True in the first film They show that from cub to adult , their fur colors Darken in age, but this is ridiculous. And again, don't say age...... They even stated in the second film that they wanted to show everything from the other side of Priderock..... so they tried to make everything darker (but still they seemed to have dipped Nala in bleach and made her LIGHTER instead of "darker"..... for that see this image ) But MY GOD! At the end of the first film, They characters look normal and have a cub, (they called Fluffy, we want to call Kopa, but in the end, lets face it, we HAVE to call Kiara.... because no matter what we want to believe, Kiara is the ONLY cub they have in the movies.... which blows really.) And the lighting/art was superb at the end of the first film, then we cut to the second film's beginning, then everything is darker(except Nala!), and all around different!!! (You can say "Because it's two different cubs!!!!"...... But again, the fact of the matter is that according to the Films, Kiara is their only cub : .... weather we like it or not.) So to say that they aged, is nonsense..... That is supposed to be the SAME cub from the first film, so we can honestly say that is was poor film-making right there.

Then again, it was just a direct to video sequel from the 90s... so for what it was, it was an okay made film... Just not as grand as the original, and with different animators. Just a good way to make a buck right?? Plus it has more plot-holes than a cheetah has spots!

And as far as Simba's attitude goes in the second film?
He was a very indecisive youg adult lion in the first film... It's no wonder he'd be a nervous parent.... And not as stellar as a king as Mufasa.........but still, as an audience, we expected more from him.

ALSO! His mane is massive, and way...WAY less detailed. And that damn round chin, not even Mufasa had that, or Sarabi!!!

I love how much more Rugged and detailed he was in the first film, and his colors POPPED soo much more.


I'm out of things to say.

Simba, stop eating the krispy creams, stop with the fake tanning, and stop with the hair gel. (you are NOT from Jersey Shore!!!)

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giftheck's avatar
giftheckHobbyist General Artist
Would you do one for The Lion Guard's Simba as well? It'd be hilarious to see the both of them react to that!
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sophiethecutiebunnieStudent Digital Artist
I say the number one Simba is better than the second one that one is to evil for me and I cannot handle with the lk 2 Simba's stupidity
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LukaSwiftHobbyist Digital Artist
Ugh exactly lol
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sophiethecutiebunnieStudent Digital Artist
I always hated the lk2 Simba he looks evil to me I just don't like how he was designed in the second movie
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LukaSwiftHobbyist Digital Artist
Yes. I'm also very bothered with the way he acts. Like, he's so obsessed with being Mufasa.
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sophiethecutiebunnieStudent Digital Artist
Instead of being like your dad, why not take a look at yourself in the mirror and figure out how to be yourself
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LukaSwiftHobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly. 👍
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sophiethecutiebunnieStudent Digital Artist
I mean has Simba ever learned that he can't always be like his father but he can only be himself? I find that disbelieving
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I guess they were going for a more mature look for simba and make his mane larger, yet they somehow made his proportions larger and rounder.. I get they had a smaller budget but I have no clue how it can be that off model if model sheets already existed for the character.
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LukaSwiftHobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, it annoys me how everything LIKE EVERYTHING got rounded lol
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VentuspowerbeliveStudent Filmographer
I like both. Simba was one of the better looking (old faces) in TLK2 to me.
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bubblybumblebee1Hobbyist Artist
I like both. They're both charming in there own ways.
Shadowstalker55's avatar
Makes me wonder what the original Simba would say to The Lion Guard's Simba about his attitude towards Bunga.…
NightChild12's avatar
Lol you killed me with the Krispy cremes and fake tan omg
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CamiloSamaStudent Artist
Young adult Simba: Man, I'll be so old?
Old adult Simba: Was I like this, so cocky?
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tcr11050Hobbyist General Artist
To be fair why they have a slight redesign is that to show they both aged over time, since of course they are now parents.
DeadPegasus's avatar
At least they let him keep the nineties middle part.
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DJ88Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, the first was released in 1994, and I think the sequel was released in 1997 or 1998. So the hair wouldn't have changed lol
Plus, it is his basic character design.
DeadPegasus's avatar
You think Favreau will let him keep it?  
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DJ88Hobbyist Digital Artist
It may look a bit odd on a photorealistic lion honestly. He just may give them bigger and thicker manes. Though if you look at images of lions, there are some who have manes that split down the middle a bit. Giving them that sort of look.
So who knows? We'll just have to wait and see
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this mirror look is absolutely superb!
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cake5313Student General Artist
Your last statement just sent me through the roof (laughing so hard XD)
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I hate Simba's muggy colors in TLK 2,they are way too fugly and dark.
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