© Philippa Blenkey 2015
Guess what; animal products are in just about everything. Meat, eggs, dairy, honey, silk, pearls, ivory, feathers, fur, leather, wool, and beeswax are just the most obvious. Paints, inks, crayons, glue, plastics, cash, airfilters, fertilizers, fuel, musical instruments, makeup, medicines, cars, planes, phones, construction materials, waxes, soap, and polishes just to name a few.
Also a nonhuman isn't considered someone. They live by instinct and can't contribute to society such as voting, holding public office, writing, reading, getting an education, developing arts, sciences, or technology. They don't pay taxes nor do they have morals and thus can't keep the commandments or uphold law and thus can't be held accountable. This message aims to shame and vilify nonvegans and the irony is that animals make veganism possible. Heck nothing is truly vegan. In order for crops to grow, habitats must be altered or destroyed thus displacing all sorts of critters. Manure and dead animals are needed to fertilize the soil and so are earthworms and pollinators crucial for crop production. Way more animals die from pest control and during the harvest than from pastured raised livestock. Also runoff from chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides pollute rivers, lakes, streams, and saltwater bodies. That kills and harms even more plants and animals.
Ok it seems you weren't actually trolling and you've actively searched for vegan art to comment on so let's look deep into your psyche and see what we find:
Animal products are in just about everything: Vegans actively seek to avoid as much harm as possible, that's the goal, not perfection. If there is an alternative to an item that causes suffering to animals, they buy that item. There's something called supply and demand, when something is not in as much demand (lets use meat for example), ok so meat is less in demand as less people are eating it, it stands to reason that the amount supplied also falls: less customers buy it > supermarkets buy less > farmers breed less animals > less animals are slaughtered. The main take away however is avoiding as much harm as possible, if it can be avoided, vegans avoid it, if there is no alternative then you have to compromise. Ok, but that's only the first thing you mentioned.
A nonhuman isn't considered someone: I consider all living creatures to be someone not an item to be used for commodification.
Animals can't contribute to society such as voting: Plenty of humans do not vote, uphold the law or run for office also, do you view them as creatures also worthy of a life cut short for someone else's brief pleasure? How do you feel about the mentally handicapped?
In order for crops to grow, habitats must be altered: This is true, however, most of the land that grows crops is grown to feed livestock animals. Let's use soy as an example, sure a soy burger has soy in it, but to feed a cow to slaughtering size you feed him a heck of a lot more soy. Even if I ate a whole cow's weight in soy I am not eating as much as that cow ate in his whole life, so yes, small animals and insects die in crop production, but to reiterate, vegans live by doing the least harm possible, and in one scenario you have some mice and insects dying and in the second scenario you have many more mice and insects plus one cow dying. You see what I mean?
Runoff from chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides pollute rivers: So does the huge amounts of silage produced by animal agriculture. Plus all the pesticides used on the vastly more crops used to feed these animals.
It seems you are very interested in veganism so I might suggest watching some documentaries! (everyone loves some documentaries!) Some easy ones on Netflix are The Game Changers, What the Health and Cowspiracy. Also, keep asking questions! Don't let companies tell you what is moral when they are trying to sell you something! Make up your own mind, put yourself in someone else's shoes. I too used to think that animals were bred for purpose (and how noble that was) and humans should have ultimate control over their lives, from time they are born until the time of their death. But to serve another without choice is not fair to the needs of that individual. If given a choice I don't think these animals would run headlong into the slaughterhouse because it serves the needs of someone else.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Just because you don’t buy something doesn’t mean someone else will. Ironically vegans are causing more suffering because they get sick and end up needing meat, eggs, and cheese and end up buying animal foods from factory farms because they didn’t think they needed it and soy, kale, beans, nuts, and carrot juice didn’t cut it. Due to the rise of veganism a spike in demand for their alternatives to be shipped to more locations and with larger amounts. People including women, children, and other vulnerable groups toil under the hot Sun growing food they can’t afford to eat. Even animals get overworked and abused. The environment is also harmed to make the supply. Vegans rarely make up more than 5% of a nation’s population and that’s just in developed ones.
1) So you’re also against pest control and killing invasive species? All living things have some form of sentience not just animals. Pretty much all vegans are using animal commodities and just don’t realize it. You also depend on others using commodities made from animals like phones, computers, and even satellites. We still need infrastructure like roads, dams, concrete, powerlines, and bridges have animal products. Also humans are innovative and discover. Other animals don’t invent, develop arts, sciences, technologies, read, write, program, publish, plan, sow, or till. Pest control is a multi-billion dollar industry and tons of other nontargeted species get killed too. Crop protection is the number one cause of death of animals and mainly for human consumption. There’s so many ways to kill animals indirectly.
2) We can hold people accountable as laws and rights are purely a human concept not for nonhumans. You can’t arrest, cite, or fine animals for trespassing, public nudity, theft, dumping on a yard, vandalism, violating traffic laws, or loitering. They also commit acts that we consider sinful and abhorrent like rape, infanticide, sport killing, kidnapping, killing of their own, cannibalism, and abuse. We punish people for that but not nonhumans. Are you suggesting we take them to court, give them representation and push our human laws on them? We can hold the blind, deaf, bisexuals, albinos, dwarves, religious, nonreligious, natives, immigrants, diabetics, dyslexics, and psychopaths, smokers, and nonsmokers accountable. Are you saying that the mentally handicapped have the same value as a rat or a cow?
3) Actually most of the crops grown are to feed people and only around 11% of the land is good for growing crops. Livestock traditionally lived on fallow or less fertile land. They foraged for food or ate scraps or food unfit for human consumption. Please cite a source like the FDA and FAO. Cattle don’t typically eat soybeans but they do eat the pods, leaves, and stalks. Cattle are great upcyclers because they convert that waste into meat and milk for butter, cheese, and yogurt. Due to corn subsidies that created a cheap feed source and now most animals in the U.S. are placed in CAFOs which are bad for animals, the environment, consumers, and workers. So one grassfed steer died for dozens of people to have beef while thousands of rodents, moles, birds, rabbits, weasels, frogs, toads, and reptiles, died for someone’s salad, soy, rice, bread, beans, berries, fruit, and veggies. Keep in mind that shipping food great distances burns fossil fuels. Most soy given to livestock is given to poultry mainly chickens. Most other livestock like goats, sheep, donkeys, horses, and pigs don’t consume much if any. It’s better to eat locally raised meat from small/modest ranchers than ship ingredients thousands of kilometers/miles away. There’s thousands of locations where a vegan diet isn’t practical like deserts, swamps, mountainous ranges, or tundras. Veganism is a first world luxury since richer folks can afford to turn down food not to their liking. Corn subsidies created CAFOs and thus the huge manure runoffs and the pollution.
4) Those are ideologically based films not real documentaries because they are so biased, full of misleading out of context claims, half-truths, and lies. Most of the experts speaking likely were paid to say that/lacked some ethics, or just got misquoted. Most of the athletes featured in the Game Changers got injured, performed really poorly, or even retired early shortly after the movie’s release. Most weren’t top tier athletes to begin with. If being vegan is so advantageous then why aren’t they winning all the medals and dominating every/most sports? Most gladiators were slaves or prisoners and ate a grain based diet to give them more fat and thus more padding for that armor. Also director James Cameron owns stock in a pea protein company to capitalize on vegans thus why it’s being promoted.
Most of these health problems like diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and obesity started becoming an issue less than 100 years ago. It makes zero sense to blame such old foods for a sudden increase of health problems. There’s something called the ‘healthy user bias’ because vegans tend to practice a number of healthy habits such as not smoking, exercising, practicing good hygiene, not eating junk food, avoiding certain oils, and excessive sugar, going to the doctor, and getting enough rest. Most vegans live in safer places too. Compare them to health conscious omnivores and you get hardly any difference. So far all the centurians and super centurians have been omnivore or vegetarian and there are no vegan cultures, tribes, or 4thgeneration vegan. Look up Dr. Weston Price’s works. He studied all sorts of indigenous groups eating all sorts of animal foods and had great health. Diseases like cancer and heart disease were almost unheard of.
The mindset of many vegans is that cutting animal products from the human diet is healthier, moral, and better for the globe. It is misguided activists, celebrities, and groups with agendas but the vast majority have never farmed before. It’s about being superior and boasting about it if not belittling others. Any farmer or gardener will tell you that plants get much of their nutrition from dead animals, poop, urine, and parts they shed like antlers. Let’s not forget about the labor of earthworms and pollinators. So nope not even plants are vegan and don’t compare this to a TED Talk. Veganism is a first world luxury for well off people who can turn down food not to their liking. The human body can’t convert enough essential nutrients from roughage or other plant products. Other animals have longer/more complex digestive tracts or eat their own droppings.