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Sky and Sea

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This piece is about a lot of things. It's about first loves, and the mistakes we make when we're young. It's about the fragility of relationships and things that can't be undone or taken back. It's about the desire to reunite, to be together again, and knowing that it isn't possible.

I wrote a paragraph to go with this image; you can read it here: dierat.deviantart.com/art/Loss…

You can see the tattoos on their own here:
Birds tat by dierat Fish tat by dierat



Other work:
The Lutenist by dierat Dragoness by dierat Nine of Swords by dierat
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dierat's avatar

Thank you so much for featuring my work! 💕

sesam-is-open's avatar

It was a real pleasure! :)

Cloudrunner64's avatar
:star::star::star::star: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star: Vision
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:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Impact

This is a really pretty image. I enjoy looking at it. I love the tattoos and the way you've put so much detail into the ladies...as others have said, I wish it was a bit bigger so I could see more detail!

I love your background as well. It's very soft and lovely without taking away focus from the main subjects. However, the reflections are inconsistent, as I believe someone else mentioned...it looks more like glass than water in front, versus how water would ripple. That's another thing--ripple. Water looks like she is moving, or has just finished taking a step, so there would be some movement in the water around her. The ripples/reflections from the leaves come off as awkward to me, more pasted on than sitting on top of the water.

Adore the folds in the clothing! The detail you put into the tree is also quite nice. The only other thing I have to say is about Water's hair. I believe this was also touched on, but I wanted to give you my input on it as well. I love it up until the point where it begins to flow, as it were. It's too rigid, and looks like it's sticking directly out from her shoulders whereas water would be much smoother and frothier. It would also be wetting her back, which looks dry to me.

Overall, I really like it. The expression on Air's face is lovely as well. As is her body language. Well done, really! <img src="e.deviantart.net/emoticons/c/c…" width="20" height="20" alt=":clap:" title="Clap"/>
ArtByKostasTsipos's avatar
Overall, I really like it... but still love it :))))
Cloudrunner64's avatar
:giggle: It's a really pretty piece.
dierat's avatar
Thanks for the critique! :) :hug:

I totally see what you mean about the water (both the literal water and the hair-water). I tried to go back and fix it and pretty much gave up -_- Well, I think it's better than before but still an obvious problem. (The old version is here btw [link] ) But sometime I want to do another piece like this just to practice on things like water and ripples. Water's such an interesting subject but soo difficult too.

Thanks again for the detailed feedback! ^^
Cloudrunner64's avatar
You're welcome...I'm glad I didn't come across as an evil art killer or somesuch. xD

I did go see the original ^^ And it is better! I liked how you quit trying to cover her breast. :XD: Watery hair is just...difficult. Especially since your rendition doesn't turn liquid until further down. But, maybe if you started higher up on her shoulders next time and had it flowing down her back, going with the curves of her body, it'll look a tad more liquidy. (That's totally a word. :giggle:)
That said, I can't draw water for nothing, so there you are xD I'll agree with you on ripples, for sure! You'd think they would be easy...but no, darn things have minds of their own >_>

Anyway, you're welcome! Why not try a waterfall sometime? :) That would definitely let you play with falling water and ripples.
dierat's avatar
An evil art killer? Well, hm, now that you mention it, the thought had crossed my mind.. XD

The thing about the hair not looking liquidy (so glad I learned that word; ya learn somethin' new e'ery day!) is that I was trying to make it look like a waterfall. And in the photos of waterfalls that I was looking at, the water is coming down so fast that it appears quite solid until it starts to break apart as it nears the bottom. Which is really cool but it looks a bit odd here. I think it would've worked better if I had gone for slower water, like when you pour water out of a pitcher. That would have been really hard to get right (because you would be able to see through the water to her head) but I think it would be easier to understand; it would look a lot more like water.
Cloudrunner64's avatar
Oh noes D8

Teehee. They do break apart/get frothier near the bottom...to be honest I have no idea how that would work in this context. Or at least I've no idea how you'd do it. I do like the froth you have going, it's just the sharp angles that throw it off. But the slower moving water idea you have there is very interesting. Extremely so. Excuse me a moment while I imagine it in my head. :XD:
MimozaBlooming's avatar
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star: Impact

well, first of all I want to see it much bigger, with higher resolution, so I can enjoy all the color shades that are now lost.

Second, the paragraph going with it is lovely, and I love the concept - but if possible, and unless it's done to accomplish a goal, I think you should stick to past tense throughout. There are some tense inconsistencies even within single sentences, and they really throw the flow off.

This is quite good, all around, actually <img src="e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s…" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title=":) (Smile)" /> I feel silly trying to find errors in it.
I think air is partially see through, right? It's visible when the outline of the background bushes continues into her shoulder... Perhaps you could keep everything above that line more transparent - otherwise people might simply view it as a mistake.
Air's hair around her ear seems a bit dark as well... Tiny detail, but it makes it look less like clouds, and less professional.
I like the addition of branches above, and the trees one the sides. I like how water they are in is utterly still - although that kind of works against the Water's motion of reaching out to air... So, perhaps consider some ripples in the water on Water's side? <img src="e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s…" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title=":) (Smile)" />
I like the shortening of objects on the front plane on the work in the reflection - works good in terms of depth. However, it's inconsistent with how things are reflected in the background... Is this realistic?
Your fold are amazing (really wish I could do them like you <img src="e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s…" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title=":) (Smile)" />) - and the spot where they enter the water is done well.

My only real complaint are the trees on the right of the work - on that little green island. It feels incomplete - they are as flat as their reflection, and even lighter than their reflection (the grass hangs down somewhat awkwardly too) - and that feels inconsistent with the rest of the work... so I'm not sure what exactly, but they need to be somehow fixed.
(Although, if they are not, it's still a magnificent drawing).

Last comment - brave choice with Water's hair... It looks like a waterfall - but also looks like a trick gone wrong in 3-D modeling... it feels like fiberglass, and not because it's shiny...
Um... The angle of her shoulders doesn't match up with how the water is propelled; and the point break of the water changing the path is too low. Also, even if her hair = water rushing down with immense speed, it wouldn't break in such perfect lines - it would spray apart instead... I'm sure there are pictures of Niagra falls that could explain this better than I.
dierat's avatar
Thanks for the in-depth critique! And sorry I didn't "accept" it earlier; I'm on vacation atm and am writing this from a hotel bathroom (lol). I think all the points are fair and I'll go through and think about them more in-depth later when I'm back at home.

The only thing I really wanted to respond to is the comment about the trees being visible through the Sky figure. Do you mean in her left (our right) shoulder? I didn't intend for her to be transparent at all; I think it's that the shadow there just happens to coincidentally be at the same vertical point as the treeline, which is causing confusion. If that's what you're talking about, I'll fix that (maybe I'll move the treeline down a tad or something). Thanks for bringing that up; I had no idea that would be interpreted in that way.

Thanks again for the crit! :hug:
MimozaBlooming's avatar
It's no problem - I was on a hike myself for the last several days, so I'm quite patient with responses myself :)

Regarding the visibility of the Sky figure - yes, that's exactly what I mean... I think part of that effect comes from the work being so small in terms of resolution... Perhaps if it were bigger, there would be no confusion between the shadow and tree line....
It's also because I didn't really see anything casting such a prominent shadow... and that line WAS a perfect continuation of the tree line, so yeah :)

Glad to be of help, on both deviations!
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:star::star::star::star::star-half: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Technique
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Impact

Sky and Sea by =dierat is a concoction of colour, texture and shape. It is perfectly framed and the frame itself is complete and classic, leaving little to critique. The palette the artist has used juxtaposes warmth with coolness, employing dark pastels and shades I would love to steal using Photoshop color swatch. My only critique is the size of the image; it should be larger so that the meticulous detail is magnified. I recommend you view the bit of literature =dierat has submitted to complement this image, as it invokes a new and natural perceptive. OH ... and if you think this is impressive, =dierat's traditional art is going to give you a heart attack.
BlackManaBurning's avatar
"This piece is about a lot of things. It's about first loves, and the mistakes we make when we're young. It's about the fragility of relationships and things that can't be undone or taken back. It's about the desire to reunite, to be together again, and knowing that it isn't possible."

Wow... 

It's like you've taken what's been in my head as I've been writing (it's a fantasy series I've been uploading to DA) and made it into a picture :love: It's amazing when you find that sort of thing, so I just had to comment~
dierat's avatar
Wow that's really cool! Good luck with your project; I'm sure it'll be awesome! :hug:
LikaKinsky's avatar
Hm, this is very beautiful! lovely girls, great compositin!
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DameOdessa's avatar
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This amazing work has been featured in my journal: dameodessa.deviantart.com/jour…
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dierat's avatar
Thank you so much! :heart:
DameOdessa's avatar
you're welcome :huggle:
LAestrellas's avatar
Sky and sea! That's wonderful! That's my THEME right here! I am in LOVE with the sky and the sea (along with lakes, ponds, rivers, streams and any other body of water!)
Great jog! :clap:
dierat's avatar
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! :love:
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