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Design Guide - Lilac

Journal Entry: Sun Aug 9, 2015, 5:23 AM


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Lilac

nL/LL

Lilac is a modifier that renders the coat various shades of luxurious blue.
This gene may very slightly darken the coat as well. 

For a detailed view on what color your lilac's base can be, take a look at the
Design Guide: Picking a Base Coat, where you can find acceptable ranges for each base coat.

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Lavender, a purple-y alternative swatch set for lilac, is now available. Find swatches here: Design Guide: Picking a Base Coat.
Lavender swatches are not a separate gene, and are available to use on all lilac tokotas.

Lilacs and their markings should never reach a saturation higher than 30%.
Please note different drawing programs may say different numbers. We measure using SAI 1 V-HSV.


Lilac affects the texture of a Tokota's coat as well as it's color, rendering it silky and soft to the touch.
Even for this reason alone, the lilac gene is sought after by prestige and companion breeders.
While the gene itself is actually a brand of grey, lilac Tokotas appear to be an almost impossible blue in most
kinds of lighting, with the unique structure of the fur tricking the eye and lending it a fanciful, almost ethereal hue. 

Sabu 4500 - DECEASED by TotemSpiritBallos 4550 by TotemSpiritIgikpak 23243 by TotemSpirit




Original Base Coat Nuances


You may have very small areas of the original (non-lilac) base showing through on the face if you choose.
The effect should be subtle, and non-lilac base coat can only show on the face.

Examples:
 




Lilac + Markings

The lilac gene may slightly tint markings, or they can remain a
shade of white or black depending on the marking.
Ex; they wouldn't be able to be brown. 

The following markings can have a slight blue hue due to lilac:
Accents, marked, collared, pangare, blanket, saddle, sable, seal, rainmarks, bearmarks, starmarks, flecking, dun,
merle patches (points are not affected), dapple, starmarks, wolverine, roan, barring, piebald,
Van Gogh piebald, restricted piebald, Monet piebald, lacing, extended marked , extended dun, melanistic.

Qigniqtaq  9078 by TotemSpirit

The following markings are not affected by lilac:
Minimum white, points (including merle points), vitiligo, restricted seal, albino, leucistic.

(Marked lilac brown with liver points)


Interactions with Other Modifier Genes

Cream + Lilac = Can be slightly lighter than normal lilac.
Grey + Lilac = Grey does not affect the blue color of lilac or create any grey spots on the coat.

Lilac + Merle

Points stay their original color, merle patches get a slight blue tint:


Lilac + Points

Points stay their original color.


Lilac + Seal

Lilac turns the seal grease spots a luxurious blue.
Lilac may also tint seal's base with a subtle blue hue.





Design Notes

- Don't make your markings/base too saturated!
Lilac should be a subtle blue tint to the overall design, not sparkledog worthy.




Good Examples of Lilac Tokotas:

  Qigniqtaq  9078 by TotemSpirit Buka 8933 by TotemSpirit Mudai 23849 by TotemSpirit Perriwinkle 23797 by TotemSpirit
Traust 23369 by TotemSpirit Aster 23164 by TotemSpirit AVS Nukka 23113 by TotemSpirit Hax 21119 by TotemSpirit


Skin by Horsepoint and alexpeanut, paw icon by Kawiku, images by noebelle
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:iconleopia:
leopia Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aaaah, glad to see you guys went through with the lavender lilac idea!! c:
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ninjastarhate Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2018  Student General Artist
Can any tokota be the lavender lilac, or only if the parents have it?
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:iconleopia:
leopia Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
From the guide: "Lavender swatches are not a separate gene, and are available to use on all lilac tokotas."
So, you can pick from the lavender lilac swatches for any tokota with lilac in it's geno. c:

*not an admin anymore!
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:iconninjastarhate:
ninjastarhate Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2018  Student General Artist
Oh, cool! Thanks!
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Affyre Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2017
Little question on greying on black lilac. I'm a little confused as to how to go about adding it to lilac. Do i just use the black lilac swatch and just add the desaturation? 
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Discrete-Disguise Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2017
Lilac is a form or brand of greying itself. From under the 'Interactions with other modifier genes': "Grey + Lilac = Grey does not affect the blue color of lilac or create any greying out/light grey spots on the coat."
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Mystic-Breakthrough Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Is the 30% saturation rule a 30 from SAI or PS? I know they read differently and was told that I couldn't have above 20% saturation in PS :'D

and a small complaint that isn't directed at any one person!
Also a tiny bit upset that so many lilac tokos in the gallery pick above 20-30%, ones uploaded in the last few days at that q.q I'm just a bit disappointed that I finally got my first lilac girl and she needs to look so washed out compared to other lilac tokos to be approved even though her saturation picked less than most all of the approved ones ;-;
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017
30 saturation applies to SAI. 15-20% saturation applies to Photoshop. ^^

~ leo
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:iconnightmaregraphics:
nightMAREgraphics Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Does dominant LL guarantee passing? Because breeding roller testing shows that it does not
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:icontree-kangaroo:
tree-kangaroo Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2017
Lilac is an extremely rare gene, so while LL has a higher chance of passing, it's not guaranteed. 
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:iconezilyn:
Ezilyn Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see an issue. :c According to the newly updated Shadowmarks guide, Lilac does effect it.
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2017
Fixed, thanks!

~ Leo
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TimberRifle Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay so I'm a bit confused. I am actually terrible with genotypes, even when I've read the whole guide @_@ can this geno be lilac? It's a tawny, but I don't see anywhere what tawny colour it should specifically be. Lilac is in the lineage (DSS, it's actually Zhenjin funny enough).

3) Male, Natural Mane
Average - Healthy
ee/AA/Tt/MM/nC/nA
Marked collared tawny with accents
Hereditary Traits:
Hunter
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2016
Lilac is a modifier not a base coat so it could only be lilac if it had inherited the lilac modifier gene. That geno doesn't have it, so it can't. 

~Drazzi
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Jian89 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is no nL gene in the geno, so this one is not lilac.

To be lilac, the pup must have the gene in the genotype. It's not a color variation like red brown ...
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Nanuukk Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
does lilac affect piebald in any way?
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OneMinuteSketch Featured By Owner May 10, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If lilac is a kind of greying, can it show "grey outs"?
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner May 11, 2016
You can have very subtle hints of the original base coat showing through: gyazo.com/954c72c816b65448abec…

~SeaCrest
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OneMinuteSketch Featured By Owner May 12, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But I'm asking about more gray spots, like here: i.gyazo.com/684eb3532f3c2bef2d… ; D
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SeaCrest-Star Featured By Owner May 17, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope.
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:iconsilver-stormfront:
Silver-Stormfront Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In the dos and dont's the "Markings and..." part is cut off :)
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EspressoShots Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2016
If a parent is LL, would all the pups have lilac?
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016
No. Lilac and black do not pass like the rest of the genes; even if you have an EE, you are not guaranteed Ee pups. The same goes for lilac.
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:iconstygian-nyx:
Stygian-Nyx Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2016  Student Digital Artist
can graying and lilac appear at same time?
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2016
"Grey + Lilac = Grey does not affect the blue color of lilac."
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:iconstygian-nyx:
Stygian-Nyx Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2016  Student Digital Artist
okay, thank you!
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:iconrosae-aurelia:
Rosae-Aurelia Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Question, what happens when you get a lilac brown from a lilac x red brown parent? Are you allowed to have red/purple tints to it?
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:iconmorganleslee:
MorganLeslee Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lilac works like gray so it "desaturates" the coat to the blue hue.
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Rosae-Aurelia Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, but I know with graying you can have color points, so would those points have a purple fade or how would that work? Or does lilac not allow for color to show through?
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:iconmorganleslee:
MorganLeslee Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lilac allows very very little color to show through like on him: Buka 8933 by TotemSpirit

Its not going to change the base. So whatever base does show though it shouldn't be purple, but the original color.
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:iconrosae-aurelia:
Rosae-Aurelia Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, thank you!
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:iconneon-izumi:
neon-izumi Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I have a pup whose sire is Rin 4804. His coat is still darker than the range of lilac on black coat, but is it still too blueish for a normal black? I would be great if an admin finds the time to answer this:) (Smile) 
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DarkHeartSeer Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
His coat doesn't look blue to me, so I would say it's probably fine?
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neon-izumi Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thank you so much for your answer^^
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Sylveon17 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a quick question! For tokotas such as this Manirak 3613
that have a blue hint, can they no longer pass on that color to offspring?
I was commissioned to design one of his pups and I was confused...
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:icondesignden:
DesignDen Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2015
The blue tint cannot pass down anymore unless the pups have lilac sadly :c

- Reyniki
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okami02 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2015
Dang now I want a black lilac XD such a perfect hue QQ though the tundra ones are also very beautiful ;)
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21543185 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 12, 2015  Hobbyist Artist

Lilac on Black is PERF :heart:
Much need. Such pretty. Must get!
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Lunatuh Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2015
Hnng, yes, russian blue coloring on a Toko :love:
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HaruTheDemonHalfer Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
;-; I can only dream...
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:iconsilverpocky:
SilverPocky Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Man I am so hoping on getting a Lilac one day <3
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:iconmystic-wolf-of-snow:
Mystic-Wolf-Of-Snow Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ohh gosh that lilac on a tundra black...i waaaaant xD
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AlphaSpice Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
dogmaster22
We.
NEED.
ONE.

Also maybe starmarks but I'm iffy on the rest of the new markings as of right now :"3 but this one is a must-have
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:iconeternalhusky:
EternalHusky Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yes we do! It looks awesome

Maybe, I'll have to check them out XD but this one is great
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AlphaSpice Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't want mine to be really dark blue but I don't want it to be difficult to tell my bby is blue either :"3 I think I want a tawny lilac the most

The rest just seem painful to design and draw tbh XD
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Freyjas-Sanctuary Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a gorgeous colouration! :heart:
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SlaveToTheMocha Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015
Hngg I want them all
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Onykssaifavild Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Lilac on brown and tawny much better than I had been thinking lol

I thought it would be the two colors with lilac nobody would want because of a mix of blue and tawny/brown colors would end badly x-x
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Dark-Mare910 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
rawr some really nice colors can appear with it :D
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