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Design Guide: Cross Mutation

Journal Entry: Fri Apr 29, 2016, 5:01 PM


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Cross Mutation

Ee/Aa/tt | EE/Aa/tt | Ee/aa/Tt | EE/aa/Tt | Ee/Aa/Tt | EE/Aa/Tt

Cross is an interesting mutation that displays a black coat and a brown, tawny, or tundra coat at the same time.
Crosses come in three colors: Brown Cross, Gold Cross (tawny), and Silver Cross (tundra).

While Cross is similar to Chimerism because it displays two separate base coats, Cross works very differently.
The edges between both base coats are always soft edged, and all markings sit on top of the two base coats.




Minimum / Maximum



At minimum (left), cross only needs to display on the face; where and how much is up to you, as long as it's visible.

At maximum, the non-black half can cover up to 50% of the Tokota.
The maximum image is an example; you may arrange the base coats differently.

The black base is typically more on the top half of the Tokota, while the non-black base is typically more on the undersides of the Tokota.
The arrangement of the two base coats often resembles cross foxes; feel free to look up images of foxes for inspiration.




Cross Edges

The edges between the base coats should be soft or blurred, never solid!






What Colors Do I Use?

As mentioned above, the Cross mutation is very similar to Chimerism, meaning what you're
seeing is a Tokota that is half black and half brown, tawny, or tundra.

For both base coats, you must use a base color in the lineage or pick from one of the swatches from the base coat guide.

That means even Melisandre red can be used on a brown cross if she is in your pup's lineage.
Here are some examples of different color brown crosses:

This brown cross on the left had Melisandre 45 red in their lineage, making a black/red combo.
This brown cross on the right was a relative of Jasper 4300, giving them a funky Halloween look.

A regular silver cross shows the creamy, off white tundra against a striking black.




Cross + Modifier Genes

Cream, grey and lilac affect cross too.
And since genes like cream and grey don't affect black base coats, they will show on the non-black side.
Lilac on the other hand will turn both the black and the non-black sides into brilliant shades of blue.

Cream Brown Cross (left) || Lilac Brown Cross (right)
Lilac Silver Cross (left) || Greying Brown cross (right)




Cross Mutation + Other Markings

Unlike regular chimeric Tokotas, cross mutation acts like a base for the rest of the markings to sit on top

Below we have a Marked brown cross with piebald, starmarks, bearmarks, and accents.


Cross also turns accents darker than the base coat.
They do not need to be black, but must be darker than the base coat they are covering.


The only exception in which the markings dont show over the whole design is pangare.
Pangare does not show on cross at all.




Good Examples of Cross Tokotas:

ID 39394 by TotemSpirit Jimothy WM31 by TotemSpirit ID 38227 by TotemSpirit Sarama 34181 by TotemSpirit
  Veera 34679 by TotemSpirit Nenya 33609 by TotemSpirit ID 39272 by TotemSpirit Cranky 23845 by TotemSpirit


Skin by Horsepoint and alexpeanut, paw icon by Kawiku, images by noebelle
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:iconanimalgirl1869:
ANIMALGIRL1869 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2019
hi there.. I haven't been keeping up.. just saw this pup for sale.. and very curious at the color. 
*Marked collared greying dun lilac gold cross with accents*

I see there is a lilac silver on here.. how would the lilac gold cross look?
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2019
On a lilac gold cross, the two bases coats would be lilac black and lilac tawny. You can find examples of these colors in Design Guide: Base Coats.

~crae
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ANIMALGIRL1869 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2019
oohhh ok. Thank you so much for explaing it to me!
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StanHoneyThief Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2019  Professional Digital Artist
Question: on the accents, can there also be white within the black accents like in two-toning in other regular accents? Or do the whole accents always have to be fully black?
I ask because I would like more than just min. white on a cross :P
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2019
Accents are always darker than the base coat on cross tokotas.

~crae
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StanHoneyThief Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2019  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you for the reply. It is sad, that would mean that only minimal white is possible and that would make a large white tail tip or a similar look to this type of fox impossible
Calico Fox Soft Mount by SkinnedFawxTaxidermy
I planned to design something like this but with only minimum white this is not possible sadly :(
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2019
Sorry to disappoint! ;;
You can use as much white as shown here, which could almost get that effect:  Min White Normal by DesignDen
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StanHoneyThief Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2019  Professional Digital Artist
Yes a bit indeed.
I guess the effect I want, can only be done when vitiligo is in the genes, then I can put on more white areas as long as there are also white patches I guess.
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Mystic-Breakthrough Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What are these new gold crosses I've been seeing?? o:

Gwenyver 33429 by TotemSpirit Vance 33826 by TotemSpirit
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Talliburr Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
not an admin, but they're Gold crosses which occur between, i believe, brown crosses and tundra crosses.  They're like regular crosses, but a little bit more rare because it's the mixture of technically 3 coat colors (brown, tundra, black) because tundra and brown make tawny.
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nickel-bug Featured By Owner Edited Sep 24, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a question with pangare on this mutation as the guide says it does not show but Inola's design expresses it. Is his design incorrect or is the guide just not updated? :) 
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2017
Inola's design is incorrect -- pangare does not show on cross. ^^

~ leo
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BlazictheDragon Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Might just be me, but it seems like the example images aren't showing? 
(like, the 'good examples of cross tokotas' show, but the examples showing how, say, it works with other markings, or with modifier genes, shows the default error image.)
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MemosNiceSide Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017
Little question: In the guide it says "Breeding an existing cross back to a brown or tundra tokota will not result in the mutation."
I used the test roller and in my second rolling attempted I got this: gyazo.com/13e222a931adc8a5a974…

So, what is wrong? Guide or Roller?
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017
Is the genotype on the sire's side an existing tokota? I... didn't think Ee/Aa/Tt was a possible base/cross, so that might be throwing the roller off? ^^'

~ leo
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MemosNiceSide Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017
Oh... ooooooh. I am dumb.
That of cause explains it xD Soooo nevermind!
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HayleyWolf Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2017
I have a question! What about breeding a brown cross to a slate roan? Would there be the possibility for a cross that way, since slate roan is a black base, or does it strictly have to be a black? Thank you!
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017
Later reply aahh -- since slate roan is just roaning on black, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to potentially breed a cross out of that. ^^

~ leo
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sealle Featured By Owner Edited Feb 3, 2017
I noticed on a recent import that the brown was approved while over the entire topline from shoulder to tail. I thought that contradicted the rule listed here that "The brown half may never show on the very back of the neck, mid body/back, and flank." 

Has there been a change or was this an accident? 

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DesignDen Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017
Late reply, but that was an accident. There should have been some black showing on the back. :/

~ leo
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Hakaishi Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2016
I was playing around with the breeding roller and one hypothetical breeding resulted in a "chocolate cross roan". How exactly would that express? Would it be either/or (cross OR roan), or would it be sort of a chocolate- and slate roan mix where the brown was visible in the cross base coat?
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Arrillaga Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
I'm not an admin, I'm just here to help!

Since cross is used much like a base coat, I'd assume you'd just lay roan over it like you would a base coat!
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Dun-ARPG Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Since pangare was updated to appear on black-coated Tokotas now, can it appear on crosses as well?
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2016
It can, just make sure there's enough of the black and brown base showing, it's gonna follow the rules for pangare on brown and blacks (as in can't be super saturated against the black parts)

~Drazzi
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Jian89 Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is the cross mutation added in the breeding roller? :)
Just wondering, as I tested over 50 breedings now between an EE/aa and ee/AA and never saw one rolled.
Either the change is that low or it need to be rolled by hand?
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tree-kangaroo Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016
The chance is that low. In order for cross to appear/be rolled for, black has to occur first. So it's the chances of black being rolled and then the chances of cross being rolled. xD 
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Jian89 Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I noticed later XD the change is way higher when you breed 2 crosses together :roll:

Well, one of my toko's got one ... Sadly it was not my own breeding -_-
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Captain-Kraken Featured By Owner May 8, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I know the cross mutation can only be passed on via black x cross, but what are the other possible base coats from breeding a cross? As an example, if I bred a brown cross to a Tt tundra, would black pups be a possibility since the cross has E as well as A?
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DesignDen Featured By Owner May 14, 2016
Genetically cross Tokotas are black breeding wise if that makes it easier to understand, so breeding to another black would be all black pups, or if you bred to a brown or tundra you have a posibility for black/brown/tundra, just kind of ignore the cross part.
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tree-kangaroo Featured By Owner May 10, 2016
Yes, breeding a brown cross to a Tt tundra could have the possibility of black and tundra tokotas. Cross is considered a mutation that can only pass being bred to other crosses or blacks, otherwise it's rolled as a regular black toktota. c: 
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Captain-Kraken Featured By Owner May 10, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay gotcha, thank you!
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rainebowmacaroon Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016  Student Writer
Do you have better chances to breed a cross with an EE x AA or EE x TT?
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DesignDen Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016
Well, for the mutation to be rolled, you need to roll a black puppy first. Then its rolled for the cross mutation, so you just need to try and breed for black pups. The best chances are EE x Aa or EE x Tt, as those have the highest chance of producing black. 
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Dovebite Featured By Owner May 2, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Question about this explanation - Atticus 13781 is a brown cross that came from an EE black and AA brown. I was under the impression that you couldn't get a black out of an AA brown, and your explanation seems to agree with that; yet this Tokota doesn't fit that? So, is it then possible to get a cross out of an Ee black and TT tundra, or an Ee black and AA brown?
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tree-kangaroo Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
The catch is the EE black; although the chances are smaller, it is possible to get a black out of EE x AA or EE x TT. If it was a regular Ee it would not be possible with dom brown/tundra.
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Kieath Featured By Owner May 10, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry for the late response (just saw this!) could a Tokota like Morticia 7232 who is Ee/AA need to breed with a EE/aa in order to pass on the cross, or would a regular Ee/aa work in her case?
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tree-kangaroo Featured By Owner May 10, 2016
No worries! Actually the way cross is rolled that geno isn't possible. We'll be changing her to be Aa, so either Ee or EE will work to pass cross. c: 
(She's from before the numbers were finished, hehe!)
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Kieath Featured By Owner May 10, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Heehee that makes a lot more sense now xD Thank you so much!
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Dovebite Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Ahhhh, kks. Thanks for the info Tree. C: 
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rainebowmacaroon Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016  Student Writer
Gotcha! Thank you so much! <3
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nickel-bug Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
*cries* b/c lilac brown and grey brown crosses are so pretty
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PrinceAIex Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How do you breed one? Or is it just a random mutation what can occur in any black x brown / black x tundra breeding? c:
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dashsky Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016
Either cross x black, or black x brown, black x tundra!
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PrinceAIex Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ooh awesome! Now i shall try and get one, they look badass! :D
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