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How do you feel about the idea of buying a novel a piece at a time in chapters? 

49%
26 deviants said Not for me. I need my stories whole and complete.
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10 deviants said If the cost was minimal, say, $1 a section, I'd go for it.
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9 deviants said If I could get them in printed installments with art, I'd love it!
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4 deviants said Didn't they used to do that in the old silent movie days?
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2 deviants said If they are downloads, w00t!
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2 deviants said It would only work if... (Comment please.)

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:iconthunderssilence:
ThundersSilence Featured By Owner May 28, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
the idea that it may be in parts including art sounds good. on the other hand it at first sounded strange, buying a novel in parts. on the other hands, that's of course what most grafic novels/ comics are like. i don't know, really. it's very hard to say. i guess it would really belong to the art that comes with it. generally i like my novels whole and complete :)
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denlm Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
I'm with you, but I admit I like the idea of a novel--any novel--with art in it. Graphic novels are all right, but I'm into words. Occasional art would just add to the spice for me.
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:iconthunderssilence:
ThundersSilence Featured By Owner May 30, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
so, who's going to do the art for fellowship? in case it really will become a novel with art in short parts?
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 30, 2010
I hadn't planned on it. This post was for another deviant who is considering doing this with his novel. What do you think? Should you and I try a test chapter? I have no idea if we could make any money on this, but I find myself thinking about it a bit.
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:iconthunderssilence:
ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
ahh ok. but yeah, if you want we could try something out. It's always good training for me if i'm "forced" to draw some more. I've actually been working on a picture for jon.com for a little while and it's almost ready but i'm so busy with costume work for the coming convention in 2 weeks that i haven't gotten round to finishing it yet. but end of june/ start of july i should have some free time so.. yeah, why not :) it's good training for me and if, against all expectations, anything i do should really be good enough to go anywhere it can be discussed later ;)
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2010
Sounds good. No hurry. I am supposed to be working on copy for a graphic novel version of jon.com too, but I don't think I'll get to it for a few more weeks. Busy, busy, busy.

You are doing a picture for Jon? Oh, I am dying of curiosity!
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:iconthunderssilence:
ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
yes i am. it's almost ready but because i'm so busy with costumes right now i'm not sure when i'll get it done completely. but i'll submit it to DA of course ;)

grafic novel version of jon.com?!!! wow.... sounds good!
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2010
So, do you think it would sell? The artist I am working with is professionally trained at the most prestigious serial art school in the country. He knows what graphic novel publishers to pitch it to. He thinks it has possibilities. Me? All I can think is "God, more work on my already full plate."
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:iconeldestmuse:
eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
If you're genuinely curious about the idea of self-sustaining business as a writer, [link]
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
Hey, I'll check it out. But this poll was actually for another deviant who asked my opinion on the idea. I told him I'd try to get more feedback for him from my readers. Thanks for the help!
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:iconeldestmuse:
eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
Well, feel free to pass the link along :)
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
I did. Thanks again!
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:iconjaala:
Jaala Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
ONLY if the whole story was structured as a serial with each episode working like as a stand alone story.

but...i think they used to do it before the invention of TV
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
As Za-zen pointed out, Sir Conan Doyle wrote this way. Most writers did early on; it's how they maintained a steady income. I agree though that not everyone can create story lines in this fashion.
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:iconjaala:
Jaala Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
Although there are webnovels who post in a serialized format and they have a good readership but as for paying to read as you go on print?

I don't think that would work.

What would work would be a donate button and a donation goal.
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
Hmmm, another exceptional idea. Thanks.
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:iconjaala:
Jaala Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
yeah, Some web novels i read (i.e meilin miranda's sites) post bonus stories once a goal is reach.

and there's another webnovel: addergoogle (it's not bad really) where you can buy/earn "stamps" to spend anyway you like. You can ask the author to post stories explaining the characters Bio or what REALLY happened off camera and things like that.

but basically if your writing is fantastic and your site easy to nagivate (no missing back buttons and things like that) you will gain loyal followers.

You don't even need a fancy website.

Chvenga (seriously, smashing story Not work safe though) written by a published author, uses blogspot to post her episodes.

It reads like a novel but each post (2000 words) gives you enough to advance the story and leave you wanting more.
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
Now this sounds intriguing. I will have to check it out. Thanks!
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:iconjaala:
Jaala Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
also i misspelled "chvenga"

it should be "Chevenga" :)

You're welcome!
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Vodalok Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
my novel "Incubus Succubus" is written in this way, i am trying to create a modern day Gothic novel based on the old ideals. many of the chapters are stand alone, one has even won a horror witting contest. i tend to write individual short stories that follow a pattern and flow that when completed as a novel create a very epic landscape.

now this donation button, how would that work, and if i did the chapter by chapter, as a web novel, what would be the best way to go about it.

denlm if i start a thread over at my end could you point poeple to it for feed back and input/>?
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:iconjaala:
Jaala Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
a first, you need to build up a Loyal readership because without that you can't do anything. ...okay i'm kind of tired and i don't feel up to long explanation. I just came by to look up a tutorial.

Do you mind dropping me a note with a reminder to answer this question?
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:iconvodalok:
Vodalok Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
working on that. stalkers aside :D, i've got a small but loyal group i know would be willing to help spread the word.
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Jaala Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
okay :) just make your writing smashing! :P i'm pretty much addicted to reading. I would love to read your stories. :)
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:iconvodalok:
Vodalok Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
i've several here on da, shorts, fan fic for the band abney park, poems and the like. have look and let me know what you think.
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davidanaandrake Featured By Owner May 27, 2010  Professional Writer
I think this would be very difficult to make work unless it had a very structural chapter system (such as exactly 5k or 10k words per chapter), and unless the story was kind of like a soap: as in at the end of each chapter there's some kind of dramatic disaster to encourage the reader to read more. Otherwise, people would probably get bored.

Over on Baen I've seen them release the first chapter or couple of chapters in pdf format for free and then you pay for the rest of the book or larger sections of the book. But they probably know what they're doing on that front.
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
Yes, I've seen that too. They tease the reader with a gripping opening and then hope they are hyped up enough to purchase the rest.
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davidanaandrake Featured By Owner May 27, 2010  Professional Writer
*nodnod* I personally find such stories a little.. unsatisfying.. though I do need a little more of it in Dynasties considering it's format...
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Vodalok Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
can you please explain this statement for me?
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davidanaandrake Featured By Owner May 28, 2010  Professional Writer
In order to make a story that you can sell by the scene or chapter, each scene or chapter would have to end in such a way that the reader must find out what happens next. This format is best illustrated by a TV soap opera.. there's always a new devastating cliff hanger at the end of an episode of a TV soap, that's what gets people to watch the next episode. So I think if you want to sell sections of writing for it to work well enough to make money off of it you'd likely have to have cliff hangers at the end of each section that is being sold.

Because of the format of my own writing (which is a weekly or bi-weekly blog story in 1-2 thousand-word scenes), I personally need to have more tension and cliff hangers in my own work.
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:iconvodalok:
Vodalok Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
what is the link to your work so i can see how it's laid out?
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davidanaandrake Featured By Owner May 28, 2010  Professional Writer
In my signature is the link to the dA folder for the stuff I do here (if you scroll to the bottom of the folder you can start from the beginning - the newer stuff needs re-writing). I have an LJ and a Wordpress blog, but they're both currently in a process of re-formatting.
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:iconeldestmuse:
eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
I'd have to be able to trust that it would actually be finished. The cost would also have to be small enough that I wouldn't be paying $35 for a book in this format and $7 for a professional work hardbound.
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
I agree. The price for serialization would have to eqal the cost of the final finished printed book. And yes, without a track record for completion, I wouldn't buy a book this way either.
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:iconeldestmuse:
eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
I kind of think that for something like this, it would be smarter to follow the common practice of webcomics--release hardcovers and merchandise but let the content be freely visible--or do what Digger used to do and make people subscribe to see the archives.

I think webserials have a lot to learn from webcomics though.
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:iconvodalok:
Vodalok Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
i'd also like to mention that though i am an artist as well i am not near good enough to go graphic with my work, my writing style certianly would work well with it, or may lose something in the translation.
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eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
You misunderstood -- I'm not saying you should do webcomics. I'm saying prose authors should take a page from their book and use their method for making money off their work. e.g. subscription models, merchandising, and dead tree versions.
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Vodalok Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
forgive me, "dead tree versions"= paper books?
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:iconeldestmuse:
eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
yeah
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:iconvodalok:
Vodalok Featured By Owner May 29, 2010
thanks. seems my "ear infection" has more than just my physical balance off this week.
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Vodalok Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
who is this digger, and the suggestion denlm is well noted! :D
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:iconeldestmuse:
eldestmuse Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
That's a good suggestion. I hope the deviants thinking about doing this do a little research.
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:iconza-zen:
za-zen Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
how very sir arthur conan doyle ;] back to serialization, eh?
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:iconvodalok:
Vodalok Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
you'd be surprised by what people are ready for today.
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za-zen Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
oh, i'd go for it. i voted yes, with illustrations =] but i'd do it without. many of my fav sci fi writers as well as doyle wrote in serialization format first. why not?
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Vodalok Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
even modern day writers have done serialization, its a tried and true format, and my thinking is that peoples attention spans today are rather limited. once a month they or week they come back for a fix rather than trying to find time to do a book in one setting.
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
Not me. Lol. Another author on dA asked me what I thought about the idea and I told him I'd post a poll and try to get him some feedback. I'm not sure 21st Century readers are ready for a ride in the Wayback Machine.
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:iconza-zen:
za-zen Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
i think it's a cool idea! retro and nifty
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:icondenlm:
denlm Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
Thanks for saying so. I'll pass the info on to the deviant who is thinking about doing this.
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Poisoned-Pen Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
I think I'd skip chapters accidentally. I do that sort of thing.
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