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Please don't make characters based around depression or many other mental disorders! It's very hard to do this correctly and I cannot stress this enough. If their disorder doesn't contribute to their story get rid of it. 

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hoenestly Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist

I have quite a group of mentally ill ocs, my two main ones being one with depression and diagnosed clinically insane and the other suffering from masochism which causes him to cut his own face a lot both due to some sort of abuse. I spent a lotta time researching each individual subjects (though I didn’t have to look far for depression, I just need to glance at myself) I think its ok to have ocs who do that sorta stuff as long as it isn’t their whole character and you research it I say go ahead, do whatever.

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DragosDrawings Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I have a character who's has depression and anxiety because he's honestly had such a bad life heheh. But hey, he also uses medical marijuana so he's not depressed all the time
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
sobs drugs are another thing I dislike being involved in a character (THis is a completely personal thing! I have childhood truama about marijuana and absolutely despise it.)
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DragosDrawings Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh really? that sucks, because i really think highly of the medical uses of marijuana 
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I hate marijuana worse than cocaine and meth :"D
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DragosDrawings Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
woah, why? i mean, if you're ok talking about it
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
My parents neglected me, abused me, and left me without food, necessities and healthcare all because of their marijuana addiction. They grow it in our house and rub it in my face when my step dad got papers to legally grow it. The stupid people of canada think it's good to legalize a drug that destroys lives.
I don't care if people think it's okay cause it's "natural"
Every drug is natural, even antibiotics are natural cause they're made from funguses and natural properties!
I hate how people think its okay and I want to move where its illegal.
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DragosDrawings Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well damn, i'm sorry that happened to you. Tbh that's kinda my view on guns, haha
honestly it's so easy to avoid getting addicted to it, your parents were horrible
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I hate anything associated with it like teens who think it's cool.
Another thing making me depressed.
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sheepysleep Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student General Artist
I SECOND THIS

my sona(s) have mental disorders, but they are all based on my own and are true to how they affect me in life
please don't do it to be cool or to "create diversity" unless it actually contributes to their story oml
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
people who think it's original must be living under a rock.
It's such a common thing to do I now think that having dead parents as a backstory is more original omh.

I don't even let my sonas have disorders, even though I suffer from many things that cripple me. I just don't want to make it seem like i'm doing it to be cutting edge.
I do have characters with disorders but they are super developed and its there to be a plot POINT not the thing driving the plot.
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sheepysleep Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student General Artist
YES YES YES
I totally agree!! the only reason my main has disorders was for a way for me to vent when I needed
but then i like never post those because it's personal and tbh it's way too popular to "vent"

and on top of that, as I get better at dealing with things, so do my sonas
because they're supposed to reflect me as i am now, not how i was at me worst
and outright basing a character off of a disorder is super super wrong!!
no character should be the actual "embodiment" of a disorder
it's super unoriginal at this point, and it's impossible to get right because everyone who has the disorder
presents it differently!!

thank you for pointing this all out oml
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I especially ESPECIALLY hate people who make designs based on disorders like oMF

I remember I had to draw a commission of a character with cuts as part as it design, and tbh since than I refuse to draw characters like that because it makes me uncomfortable that someone would want that as a design add-on?

ANother thing with all this disorder bs.
Is most of these people that make the character have depression/bipolar/anxiety are S E L F D I A G N O S E R S
I cannot eXPLAIN how much anger these people bring me
Theres a DIFFERENCE between being depressed and having depression
theres a DIFFERENCE between moodswings and bipolar disorder
and theres also a difference between feeling uneasy and having anxiety.

NONE of these disorders can be self diagnosed!
and it angers me that no one understands this! BEacause of all these people the ones who actually suffer from this stuff get treated lower than dirt cause apparently everyone today is depressed


sorry for the random rant just sdfsg
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sheepysleep Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student General Artist
no heck it's totally fine
i completely agree with everything you are saying

people who have self-harmed (usually) DON'T WANT CHARACTERS WITH CUTS
i have no problem with scars, self-harm i'm touchy on because obviously the whole "edgy trend"

SELF DIAGNOSED PEOPLE ARE THE W O R S T
like, hun I wish I didn't have anxiety or depression or any of these things
just because someone is sad doesn't mean they automatically have depression
if someone is stressed out and worried about something doesn't mean they automatically have anxiety

one of my friends introduced me to "Stalking, Killing" which is a horror thriller manga, and I kinda liked it
but then they made one of the MAIN characters have borderline to explain his psychotic actions
and i just,,
NOOO NO NON O
YOU DON'T DO THAT

ahhhh
you are a cool person, by the way
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I agree so much it hurts???

And tysm you're cool too vwv)/
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animatorfun Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018   General Artist
but what if im making a character thats edgy for the sake of edginess and it has lotsa mental disorders?
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I dislike edgy 'for the point of being edgy' characters.
Tbh I think it's gross to use mental disorders to explain why a character is edgy, since not everyone with those disorders is edgy.
There's some exceptions like you can make a character with anxiety, anxious, and always on edge.
But if you make a character with depression constantly edgy just because you need that 'serious character' in your plot than just don't do it??

I have alot of serious and edgy characters but I don't use mental illness as a cheap tactic for why they're that way.
Being someone who suffers from these illnesses people are always using to make their character seem cutting edge, I think it's cliche and unoriginal since I see it EVERYWHERE in the art community.

If you have to make a edgy character i'd prefer if they'd have a very deep plot (that does NOT involve dead parents or something, that's another trait that's very hard to do right.)
Like I have a character that left home due to trauma with his family, his parents and family are still alive and intact he just took a event really rough.
Now while he's edgy, he can also be happy and a jokester. Not letting his rough past effect him as a character.

Making a character thats only edgy/happy/etc. or just there to be comic relief Makes the character seem super one dimensional and flat. 
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animatorfun Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018   General Artist
k then lol

i share similar views on this idea, its kinda irritating, most of my edgy characters usually have a better reason than mental illness except for like 2 of them where their illness actually effects them
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
It's fine to have mental illnesses in characters! Just can't be the point of them.
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animatorfun Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018   General Artist
ya, i feel like people dont really know much about the disorders they give characters so thats why they arent really handled correctly
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Deertine Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I especially despise people who add self harm (like cutting) into a design like is that really necessary???
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animatorfun Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018   General Artist
its a bit necessary for some situations but i dont care for excessive cuts, bruises, burns ect, and if they are visible without moving a sleeve it kinda bothers me, mos ppl would want to hide stuff like that from others.
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