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WARPED RECOLLECTION by DeepChrome WARPED RECOLLECTION by DeepChrome
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trystianity Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2006
Nice, a very abstract looking flame. For critique, I would suggest increasing the render quality/oversample a bit, I can see a bit of grain and a few jaggies in there. I like this combination of colours. :)
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for the suggestions! Yeh, I'll putz with that. I've been creeping up towards 10,000 on the quality, as I tend to render at 8,000-9,000. Going up a few more thousand probably couldn't hurt, eh? :D
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trystianity Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2006
Zueuk told me a while ago that using quality more than about 2000-4000 won't make any difference and is useless, 1000-2000 is usually fine. :shrug: He knows way more about apo than I do (or anyone else I know of) so I listen to him. I actually render at about 1000-2000 with no oversample or filter at all but big, 3000x4000 px or so for antialiasing manually in photoshop and 300 dpi prints and it works really well for me. You can also try decreasing gamma to reduce grain... Sometimes if the master scale is really high it will be grainy no matter what you do.
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. I tend to run at 3200xwhatever minimum these days, and will size down to 1200xwhatever for web use, and save the big file. PS tends to anti-alias for sizing, so it usually takes the worst of the jaggies out.

Hmm, upping DPI....is that in PS or Apophysis? I don't mess with DPI so I'm not sure if Apo has controls for that. (If it does, I'm gonna go reset that soon as I find out where!)

Hmm, interesting. Good point about the gamma. I tend to putz the brightness slightly in Apo rather than Photoshop, when I should probably just postwork that, and keep the brightness down in Apo to take the grain down? Would that help?
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trystianity Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2006
Cool, I find PS does a better job of antialiasing than apo, bicubic resampling kicks the crap out of its blur filter. DPI doesn't really affect image quality, just how large it prints/resolution, web viewing is always 72 dpi. Not something you need to worry about unless you're printing. =MichaelFaber gave me a tip and since then I've been keeping gamma between 1 and 1.5 or so (depending on the flame) and adjusting brightness so it's lower to prevent blown out areas, it makes the render look nice and clean. I almost always do some colour adjustment in PS but it's better if you get the render as close to how you want it as possible. If you do all that and still have grain there isn't much you can do about it.
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's how I do it with colors already--I prefer to have the gradient and colors perfect when I render, and only tweak it slightly in PS.

I agree as far as the grain issue. Some fractals I don't have the problem with that (depending on variations I use), and yet others grain and jaggies just insist on staying there.

Sometimes a real low-intensity blur tool can take the edge off it before a resize. :D But most times I try to get the render where it doesn't show that easily after the resize to save myself the trouble.

Gamma between 1 and 1.5 huh? I'll try to remember that. Thanks.
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LeonieZurakowsky Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2006   Digital Artist
Highly interesting and unusual! WOW! :D
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yulii Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2006
with the colorsss and shapes looking like that..this will definately make a nice pattern for some fabric ...or rug..or just nice colorful print on a wall :)
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:nod: Thank you. Glad you liked it.

I'll try to make another of these, but I'm not exactly sure what parameters conspired to make this--I set it to Rings and Fan variations, and since I saved those parameters I can study them a bit for later.
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shajoni Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Such colors!

It's like a hippie's shirt collection exploded :D
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. :D Hahahah, great way to describe it.
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interfeci Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006
wow amazing peice, I just love how its so..."different" :D
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you. :bow: Glad you liked it. It's different-ness was what made me stick with it and render it.
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interfeci Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006
ah :D
well will you try more like this?
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Assuming I can pull this off again, yes. :D
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interfeci Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2006
I can't wait to see :D
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jacl35 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very nice : )
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you.

Hey, it's been a while since I last saw you on DA. What's up? :)
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onebadpenny Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh THAT is COOL!!!
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:lmao: It's okay. Sometimes all we can get into our heads is "oh wow, cool."

Besides, that's what I thought when I first saw it take shape after putzing some triangles around--"Whoah wtf, cool."

:D Nice to know someone shares my opinion. :giggle:
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onebadpenny Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yep, i excel at 'advanced critique' :giggle:
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gaelic Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes! You have returned!

I very much like how you've neglected to tell us anything about this picture, which is intriguing.

I like the way that the colors blend together while at the same time creating a feeling almost as though they clash and fight each other. While this may seem like a contradiction, I can't really find any better way for me to explain the feeling to you. I'm not terribly fond of the way the major portion of the fractal looks like ribbons, although the spiral effect very much causes an intense feeling of attraction to the chaos.

On a secondary note, I was wondering if you had gotten my email about the eleven thousand pageview fractal contest, and the sort of fractal that I was looking for. If not, that's fine, but I was hoping that you'd have a little more information for me.
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm, I might've lost it.

But I sent you an email about that, plus the fractal you wanted a while back. With an attached file.

Anyways...yeah it's different for me. Took me a while to get an effect I wanted, and I kept feeling like "there's something cooler hiding here", which is why I actually bothered to save the parameters on this one. ;) I may be making a sequel. Who knows?

Glad you liked this. :D Thanks for the critique. It's good to know there's something worth improving each time.
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gaelic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
*Scratches back of head*

Yeah...

I totally didn't get that email. Maybe you got the wrong address. You're best off with kit_winters@juno.com

I have a full gig of memory, so it should be plenty big enough...
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
OK, thanks. :D

I'll send that up tomorrow.
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ScreaminCricket Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006   Writer
Another very intriguing peice. This almost reminds me of some sort of otherworldy stained-glass window.
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. :D It certainly was different enough for me to say "hmm."

I'm trying to get more unusual and "different" stuff out of Apo these days...and when it works, it sure as hell doesn't disappoint. :D Who'd want me to post 50 of basically the same thing anyways? I have to push the envelope somewhere. :lmao:
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ScreaminCricket Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006   Writer
Indeed. ^_^
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DeepChrome Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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