dAWishingWell's rules

Sat Jun 13, 2015, 9:26 PM by Stygma:iconstygma:
About dAWishingWell

dAWishingWell is a community-based group on deviantART and only operates on deviantART. Our primary goal is to give a venue where community-oriented and other policy-abiding community members can not only make a wish but have their deviantART-related wishes granted, be featured and recognized for their talents and participation, and for these deviants to have a safe atmosphere to gather and share artistic and charitable interests.

We are not employees of DeviantArt! We rely on the generosity of our members and watchers to grant wishes.

Our wonderful members, watchers and affiliates read and share our journals all over deviantART. Your wish will be seen by thousands of deviants. Aside from our amazing members, the Well grants a very set amount of wishes throughout the year. All Well-Granted wishes must pass a strict review process to ensure those on the receiving end are good policy-abiding deviants. If you are not in that category, the Well will not grant your wish. You may make a wish and have that wish featured though.

The Well-Granted wishes are possible because of donations to our point account TheWishingWidget. All points are used to grant wishes.

dAWishingWell is featuring all the wishes and artworks from your gallery. If you are not comfortable with your artworks or some of your artworks being featured, please read our section "How to make a wish" to see the featuring options we are offering.

Joining our group and membership rules

Every application is automatically approved. Just click the "Join our group" button on the front page. But be aware that we are expecting our members to abide to our group's etiquette. Failure to comply can result in a ban from this group.
  • You can join with multiple accounts, but unless your second wish is a Forever wish, you can wish only on one account. Wishing on more than one account will result in an automatic ban!
  • If a shared account is used to make a wish, none of the account users can make another wish on their own account.
  • Please do not complain about being featured. This group is based on featuring its members.
  • Avoid arguing with admins. If you have any issues with the group or one of its admin, please send a respectful note to the group.
  • Do not beg for points or membership. This group has a wish system, use it!
  • Do not harass our members or admins. We have zero tolerance for that kind of attitude.
  • Do not spam the group.
  • Repetitive failure to follow any of our rules will result by being blocked from this group.  
Please be a part of making this group a great place for any deviant.

How to make a wish

:note: Make a wish simply by sending a note to the group. It's the only way we will accept your wish.

Additional restriction options:
  • If you don't want your art to be featured with your wish, please add "Do not feature my art" in your note.
  • If you want to select the artworks/journals to be featured, please include up to 3 thumbnails or links to the deviations in your note. We don't accept Sta.sh links.
  • If you want your artworks to be selected in a specific folder, please include the link to the folder in your note. One folder only!
  • I wish for 100 points.
  • I wish for a 3-month core membership. Please do not feature my art.
  • I wish for more watchers. Please feature these artworks: Insert artwork thumbs or links
  • I wish for a daily deviation. Please feature artworks from this folder: Insert folder link
If you have a Forever wish, a Superwish or a Megawish, please be specific in your note since you can also have a regular wish at the same time.

Wish rules

When making a wish, you are allowed to wish for only one thing. Do not ask for multiple items in the same wish. You are allowed only one regular wish a month, whether it is granted or not. The list is cleared every 1st of the month. If you want to keep your wish, you have to send a new note. You can also make a new wish. Please wait for the "Month hopper" journal or the "Accepting wish" poll before sending your wish for a new month. You cannot wish for another deviant if this deviant already has a wish, and if a deviant made a wish for you, you cannot have your own wish. This applies only for regular wishes.

We do not accept wishes from point accounts. Please, use your regular account to wish on behalf of your point account.

If you add a restriction:
  • You can choose only one restriction option (no feature, selected deviations or selected folder).
  • You need to write your restriction for every wish, every month, because we won't keep a tally of them. 
  • We will not feature artworks or journals if they don't meet our deviation rules and we will not ask you for new ones if they don't.
  • You cannot change the restriction of a regular wish once it's accepted. Choose wisely.
  • You can change the restriction of a Forever wish once a week.
We are accepting DeviantArt related wishes like points, core memberships, prints, commissions, adoptables, features, daily deviations, gift art, critiques, comments, badges, watchers, art trades, super group. Please look at The Showcase for examples of wishes.

You are allowed to mention up to 3 deviations with deviation-related wishes like Daily Deviations.

We are not accepting seniority and deviousness award wishes or wishes regarding mature content, hate, trolling, call out, asking for votes to win a contest, lottery, raffles/giveaways, donate points to a commission widget or anything against DeviantArt policies. We will not accept wishes on behalf of a deviant banned from this group. We will also refuse wishes we find too expensive, like asking for more than 5,000 points or more than a 12-month core membership, or a Daily Deviation on an artwork too far from the requirements to get a DD. Note that smaller wishes are granted more often than expensive wishes and that granters will most likely give you points if you include a reason with your point wish.

Please keep your wish description short!

Wishes are displayed all month in The Showcase. They are also featured once a week in one of our wish feature journals: Fishing for Wishes, The Wishing Jar, Wishing Upon a Star and Wish Fondue. To avoid overloading our feature journals, we will only feature 30 wishes at once in the same journal.

Don't make plans around your wish being granted... The Well is not able to grant time-sensitive wishes nor is here to allow deviants to hold giveaways and contests of their own by granting their wishes for points in a set amount of time. If you are relying on your wish to be granted in order to be able to hold a contest, do a giveaway, give a birthday present, etc, you will most likely be disappointed. Also, we won't make special features for time sensitive wishes.

We cannot guarantee that your wish will be granted - even if you donate to the Well.

Anonymous wishes

You can make your wish anonymous, but you must wish something for another deviant than yourself (meaning no alternate account either). You will not be allowed to make a second wish for yourself, unless you bought a special wish. Note that your identity will be visible to all our admins.

Paid wishes

This section is for paid wishes only! Regular wishes are free and their rules are described in the sections above.

The paid wishes are the Recurring wishes and the Premium wishes. Those comes in different lengths and prices. The Well will keep a running tally of all paid wishes. Each deviant can have an unlimited number of paid wishes. To get a paid wish, simply donate the required amount of points to TheWishingWidget and then note the group with your wish (you can contact us before donating the points if you are not sure your wish is valid).

Forever wishes are discontinued but the ones previously purchased will still be honored (no new forever wish will be sold or given).

Supergroup status is ineligible to be a special wish. 

Common perks and rules of all the paid wishes (recurring and premium of any length):
  • Unlike regular wishes, you don't need to renew your paid wish every month! It is done automatically!
  • You will receive a note when your wish will expire.
  • If you renew your paid wish, you can keep your wish as long as you want. No need to change it like the Forever wish!
  • Your wish will be featured in one of our weekly wish features once a month.
  • If you choose yourself the deviations to feature (up to 3), or if you ask us to not feature any deviation, you wish will be featured every week instead! 
Recurring wish:
  • Price: 3-month: 75 points - 6-month: 150 points
  • Recurring wishes cannot be changed for the entire paid period, unless it is granted in full! It can be changed if you renew it.
  • The deviations to feature can be changed once a month if you provide them.
Premium wish:
  • Price: 3-month: 125 points - 6-month: 250 points - 12-month: 500 points.
  • Premium wishes are listed on our front page.
  • Premium wishes can be changed once a month or if granted in full.
  • The deviations to feature can be changed once a month if you provide them.
Paid wishes, once granted, can simply be replaced with a new wish that will get the same treatment as your initial wish, and will last for the remainder of the paid period.

Forever wish:

  • Forever wishes can no longer be obtained!
  • Forever wishes last forever (some conditions apply).
  • Forever wishes are featured in one of our weekly wish feature every week.
  • Active forever wishes are featured in our front page (they are removed from the front page if they are not changed after 6 months).
  • Forever wishes can be changed once a month.
  • Forever wishes must be changed every 6 months.
  • Forever wishes cannot be gifted, sold or lent to another deviant. 
  • Forever Wish or a Megawish can be changed any time in the month, but cannot be changed again within two weeks. Exceptions might apply for short events, under the discretion of the admin team. Superwishes can not be changed.
Every 6 months, you will be required to change your Forever Wish, including its category, if it was not changed during this time. After 6 months, if not changed, your Forever wish won't be featured in our weekly features anymore and won't be displayed on the front page, but it will remain on the Showcase forever, in a special section. If you change your wish later, it will be featured again.

To avoid abuses of the rules (like changing the wish for a short time before the deadline and then revert to it), we will keep a tally on the number of months each wish has been featured over a one year timespan. Therefore, we recommend you to use your Forever Wish wisely, like changing it every 3 months.

Well-Granted wishes

dAWishingWell is granting wishes every month:
  • A few 1-month or 3-month core memberships each month.
  • A few points to some deviants each month.
  • One super group in January.
  • One print given in May and September.
  • Prizes to one contest in March, July and November.

Granting wishes

If you granted a wish, or your wish has been granted, please notify us by sending us a note or leaving a comment on the journal where you found the wish. It will allows us to mention you in our "Good deeds" journal. Notifying us is important! When your wish is fully granted, we remove it from the Showcase, giving more chances to other members to get their wish granted too. Note that if your wish is only partially granted, it is not removed.

Affiliation requests

Affiliates community-oriented journals are features in our weekly journal Weekend Fun. We feature contests, events, features, news and articles. While sending your affiliation request, please include the reason why you want your group to be affiliated with dAWishingWell. We are looking to affiliate with active groups only.

If you want your group to be an official partner, you'll have to regularly feature our journals or accept them in one of your folder. Official partners can organize joined events with dAWishingWell or receive prizes for contests.

Admin applications

We hand pick our admins. Applications are never open. We only choose deviant who participate in our events, grant wishes, have experience with group administration and are already an asset for the DeviantArt community.

Deviation rules - features and gallery

dAWishingWell will not feature or accept mature art, stolen art, art containing non-credited resources, doll makers, game/tv screen shots, hate art, art containing offensive words (even in the description) or any art against DeviantArt policies. Admins are not required to feature art that they are not comfortable featuring.

Gallery rules

Gallery submissions are closed. Only admins can requests deviations or journals in them:
  • dAWishingWell's mascot Wishper: If you made art of our mascot Wishper, please send a note to the group so we can request your piece.
  • Donor news: Reserved for those who bought and advertisement package as a way to help dAWishingWell grant wishes. The admins will request the approved pieces of news in this folder.
  • dA Happenings journals: Once a week, members and affiliates can send us a note to have a contest announcement, article or other DeviantArt community oriented blog requested in this folder. We will not accept journals regarding personal content (commissions, begging for money, etc.). No wish is necessary.


If you want to advertise in Wishper's Friendly Bulletin or on our front page, please read dAWishingWell's fundraising.

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MewTreeckoAJ Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2019  Student Digital Artist
I'm still a little confused on this, so here are a few questions:

- One free wish a month or pay for a wish a month? It can be anything DA related as long as it's not too extreme? (e.x: 2-year core membership, 10k points)
- Do I need a restriction for every wish? What are the main restrictions?
- Do I need to join the group for a wish?
- So every 1st of a month is the wish rest date? Even if you sent/got your wish granted on like 20, 30, 31 etc?
- What does it mean where you guys added "(Random Wish). Feature my art..."? Does it mean you can have your art featured in your group's gallery when you wish?

Sorry if that's a lot of questions 
Stygma Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
- You can get 1 free wish per month and as many paid wishes you want. Wishes must be DA related as we don't accept wishes for money, other websites promotions, etc.
- You can only wish for 1 thing in your wish. Example, you cannot wish for favorites and watches. You need to choose one among those. Because of this, we don't allow the wish to be about featuring a wish list. It's considered an abuse. 
- Restrictions are mentioned in the rule journal. We restrict the maximum amount of points you can ask, the maximum amount of months of core member and the amount of deviations you can link in your note (that will be featured in the wish journal).
- A tip for points: if you want many points, don't mention any number. People will most likely give if they can give the amount they can afford without feeling cheap. 
- Of course, there are other limits within DeviantArt. For example, you cannot wish for 10 Daily Deviations since someone can get only 1 DD every six months. 
- You don't need to join the group to make a wish, but I suggest you watch our journals to know when it's time to send your new wish. We are not open all month long.
- We do have a time limit to send a wish, it's written on the front page. You can send a new wish the moment we announce the wish submission is open, even if your last wish was just a few days ago.
- We don't accept art in our galleries anymore. We can feature 3 pieces of art with your wish in the wish journal where your wish will be listed. Example: The Wishing Jar 19.9.4. You have the choice between letting us choose the art, choosing the 3 pieces or art yourself (you have to mention them in the note with your wish) or to tell us, with your wish, to not feature any of your art.

I suggest you take a look at our latest journals to understand a bit more what this group is about! :meow:
MewTreeckoAJ Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2019  Student Digital Artist
Thanks! That clears alot up for me, ^^
Felizias Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2019  Hobbyist
1 wish is free each month. If you want more than 1 wish, you need to pay for any additional wishes.
Only DA related wishes are allowed. You cannot wish for seniority, the deviousness award or anything harmful to the community (trolling, asking for votes in a contest).
Regarding wishes for points the limit is 5,000 points and regarding core it's a 12-month core membership. We will let you know if your wish is inappropriate though.
The smaller your wish, the more likely it's going to be granted as well.
What do you mean by 'restriction' for wishes?
No, you don't need to join the group to send in a wish of any kind.
No, the 1st of each month is not the cutoff. Watch the groups journals & polls to be notified of the deadline and when you can send your wish for the next month.
No, that has nothing to do with the gallery and you can not submit art to our gallery. I think this should make clear what we mean by 'feature my art': The Wishing Jar 19.9.4Featuring badges, points.
Take a look at the new wishes!
Wishing for cake, llama or llama accessory badges
:heart: DasGhul wishes for the runaway llama. :heart:

Wishing for points
:groups: GeorgeXVII wishes for points for a future contest. :groups:

:groups: rainylake wishes for points for future contests. :groups:

Other places to find wishes
Shortie-Kat Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If I may ask, once I've been featured but I haven't made a wish yet, can I still make a wish even though I've already been featured in some journals?
Felizias Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2019  Hobbyist
I do not understand how you have been featured if you have not made a wish. :confused:
Could you show me the journal you have been featured in?
Felizias Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2019  Hobbyist
The first journal is simply to welcome you into the group. :aww:

Since the wish under which your name is shown was not specific to your account, I think you should be able to make a wish of your own. :P
Stygma, am I talking nonsense here or would that be correct?
Stygma Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
You are correct! :)
Shortie-Kat Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh, I see. Thank you for clearing things up :D
Flaretale52 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 4, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
OK I've been watching this group for a while, So I have to see what I've gathered, and I have to ask Questions:

- I can send a note to the well, asking for a 3 month core membership (or points, or any wish), ONCE per month
- There's a Special Points group that lets you guys accept commissions, like paid wishes, and send points to submit them...?
- If I recently Created a group, but It was to continue where a previous group (which did something similar, but it had to be closed because DA is too stupid to implement a group name change feature), It still has to be a while for it to be considered for affiliation
- No Submissions can have suggestive themes. Wait. Does swearing Count?
- Do you have to be excessively active in the group to be a member, or am I able to check in every once in a while (eg. Every week or so)?
- What took place of the new defunct Forever Wish system, and when are you guys going to tell us what it is in the rules section instead of just saying it's replaced with something? :P
I was supposed to stick my toungue out to signal a half-joke at the last line. Don't know why the emote looks like that :/
Stygma Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
- Yes, you can send a note about one wish once a month
- Your free wish can be about commissions. Paid wishes are wishes you buy with points for extra features. Those are replacing forever wishes. Paid wishes doesn't mean that you with to be paid, like commissions.
- To be affiliated, you only have to follow the rules to be affiliated, which is to include a comment, with your application, saying why you thing our groups should be affiliated. Of course, we're gonna check if you group is in line with our core values.
- Swearing counts.
- You don't have to be excessively active to be a member. This will only affect your changes to have your wish granted by the group (not necessarily by our members, though, but it helps to be active on DA ).
- It's already in the rules, under the section Paid Wishes. Those are named recurring wishes and premium wishes. dAWishingWell's rules. You can also check this journals (that is also linked on our front page): dAWishingWell's fundraising
Absbor-J Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
So, to categorize the mess in my brain:
- I don't need to be a watcher
- Those forever wishes can only be donated/bought
- Every month I need to wish for something else?
Stygma Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
- You don't need to be a watcher, indeed.
- Forever wishes are part of the past. It's not possible to get one anymore. We have new kind of paid wishes now: dAWishingWell's fundraising
- You can wish once a month and only 1 wish a month. You don't have to wish for something else the next month. You can wish for the same thing. But you have to send a new note. We clean the list every month.
Absbor-J Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
OK, thank you very much!
MazziKoro Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
How is my wish granted?
Stygma Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
There is no guarantee your wish will be granted. The well can only grant 2-3 wishes a month. It's up to our members and watchers to grant wishes if they want to. 
MazziKoro Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
how does someone grant a wish?
Stygma Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know how to answer this one. It depends on the wish. People read our feature. If they find a wish they like, they just do what is needed. Example, if they want to grant a point wish, they give points! :XD: After that, they tell us, either in a note or in a comment, that they've grant, partially or totally, the wish.
MazziKoro Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Okoi! Thx!
Valery-Liquorice Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
So, what does Forever Wish stand for?
It means I can send my wish and it will be featured there forever?
Do I have to pay for it?
And if I make a normal wish - it will be there only for one month?
Stygma Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Forever wishes cannot be obtained anymore. They were sold for points. There are new kinds of wishes that are sold now.

Normal wishes stay on the list only for the current month. Lists are cleaned at the end of the month.
Valery-Liquorice Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Got it. Thanks!! :)
HaveFaithHopeLoveArt Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Hobbyist Photographer
Do I have to be a member to make a wish? Do I have to be a member on two my accounts to be able to make a wish regarding two of my accounts? Can I be a non member to make a wish?
Stygma Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
You don't have to be a member to make a wish, buy you can wish with only one account. 
HaveFaithHopeLoveArt Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2018  Hobbyist Photographer
Thought that's what the rules said. Then this means I'm going to make a wish soon.
Sarenet Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm here recently, so I hope that the right wish.Sweating a little...
NozomemeYozawa Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So if, for example, I wanted to wish for people to buy my adopts, I would just send a note saying 'I want people to buy my adopts' and include images of my open adopts?
Stygma Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes! :)
NutellaMisty23 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wait what do you title the subject to when you send a note?
Stygma Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not very important. Most people write wish or July wish. :)
NutellaMisty23 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
BerryWatterson777 Featured By Owner May 12, 2018
Hello. I'm new here. I want to grant a wish, but most of my literature is mature content. What should I do?
Stygma Featured By Owner May 12, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't understand what is the relation between your literature and granting wishes. You can grant any wish you want regardless of what is in your gallery. 
LadyGabes Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2018  Student General Artist
How can i fufill a wish?
Stygma Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
You can check The Showcase and see what wishes you can and want to fulfill. Once you've done, you comment on the journal or send a note to the group listing the wishes you've granted! :)

You can also check our weekly features that will be submitted next weekend and/or next week.
MickeyLovesCheese Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, let's hope my wish gets granted. I'll try to grant other wishes while I wait.
FabledForest Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
How do I send a donation? ;^;?
Felizias Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2018  Hobbyist
Do you mean to send a donation to our group? :?
Stygma Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I answered! ;)
Felizias Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2018  Hobbyist
I know. :meow:
FabledForest Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes :3
Stygma Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
This is where you can donate! :heart:

VakieThePudding Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Student Digital Artist
how i do it??? too confusing for me
GeorgeXVII Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Professional Traditional Artist
Hi , all you have to do is to send a note to the group with your wish . Regards 
VakieThePudding Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Student Digital Artist
oh ok
LadySeshiiria Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017  Student General Artist
What is a point account? Can you have a point widget and not be a point account? 
Stygma Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
A point account is an account made solely to gather points like TheWishingWidget. Having a donation widget doesn't make your account a point account.
LadySeshiiria Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2017  Student General Artist
Okay that's what I thought. Awesome thank you. I just wanted to be double sure.
StarFishii Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm a little confused, so please bare with me ^^;

So what we do is we note the group with our wish and it will be featured in a journal for a month?
What does featuring deviations have to do with this?
And are paid wishes definitely going to be granted?

Again, sorry for the questions. I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding this.
It sounds super awesome though!! :D
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Re: Change

Hello people!

This will be my very first journal submitted from Eclipse, so let's see how it goes

Long time ago, around 18 months in fact, I wrote a journal called Change, in a nutshell, it was about how DeviantArt was in desperate need of change, I felt at that moment things were idle for way too long and that the only alternative to change, was death, things either change or die, so DA needed to change.

That was shortly after it was announced Wix bought DeviantArt and of course, paranoia was all around the place, some people thought it would be the end of DA, others thought it would be for the best, while expecting things to change immediately. Others simply never even noticed, hah! But in general there was a lot of expectation, expectation for something, anything! to happen... and then nothing happened, for one and a half years.

Well, nothing that we could see, but in reality there was a lot of stuff going on behind curtains. Now we know Eclipse has been in development for around 18 months... so that means that almost as soon as Wix acquired DA things were put in movement.

So here we are, one and a half years later and guess what? That change that was very much needed is finally around the corner.

Eclipse was a necessary change. I know part of us wants things to remain exactly the way they are because we're familiar with them, we're used to them, but don't tell me DA is perfect right now because it simply isn't, and to stay the same way forever would end up being worse.

With every change there is always risk involved, it is indeed a possibility to make everything worse, things might brake if they're changed, but there is also the possibility that things could improve. Imagine that trope in movies in which the character is standing at the edge of a cliff, with a monster quickly coming at them in the back, so they need to quickly decide if they jump or not. If they jump they might survive, but there is also the possibility that they might die with the fall. However if they stay it's absolutely sure that they will die, so you better jump bitch!

Is the same here, if DA stayed exactly the same, sooner or later things would break, while the only way to actually improve things, is to change them. In fact, there are already many things that are in desperate need of change because they're already broken.

Now, I'm gonna be honest here and say it in the open; No, I'm not 100% happy with everything about Eclipse right now. Overall I think it looks good and I'm quite content with the direction it is going, but granted, there are things I'm gonna miss and things I would like to have changed, there are things that I wish we could have that I know we won't or at least not in the immediate future. There are also things that we've been told are coming but am unsure of exactly how they're gonna work (or if they're gonna work to begin with).

But there are a few things that keep me positive about it.

First and foremost, I understand this is an early version of Eclipse, it's a BETA VERSION, which by nature is precisely incomplete, still in development, that's the whole point, is a work in progress, released to a group of people to test and iron details, fix problems, gather feedback and make changes, it's a draft or a sketch if you will, you never expect a draft or a sketch to be perfect, because the very nature of them is to be incomplete and the foundation for something that will be better at the end.

Secondly, is the amount of effort, time and work that has been invested in it. I said it a already, Eclipse has been in development for a long, long time, so it gives me confidence that something that has involved a lot of work is something that at the very least, won't crash or will signify the end of a site I've loved for over a decade overnight.

I have the impression many people don't understand what exactly a change as big as Eclipse really entails, it involves tons of research, to collect a lot of information, feedback, opinions, good and bad, and tons, and tons, and tons, and tons of work. I've also learned that this is not just a cosmetic change, it's a whole rebuild of the site, that's why some features don't work properly while others are simply absent, they're tearing the house down in order to build a whole new one from scratch! So really, one and a half years don't sound like a lot of time for a project as big as this.

What I'm trying to say here is that Eclipse didn't just happen in a week and it's not something that someone just thought about one day after a heavy dinner "Hey! Let's change the whole site just to piss people off, that should be fun lol" - A lot of effort, time and tons and tons and tons of work have been invested in this, and most importantly, a lot of thought.

I constantly read a lot of comments from people saying things like "DA Staff don't listen, DA Staff don't care" - and they post that in journals from staff asking for feedback Irony at its best. Seriously though, I can't wrap my head around that, because I don't know you, but I don't know any site, not a single one, that does what DA is doing here, yes other sites ask for people to beta-test things, and ask for feedback, but never in the same direct and personal level like DA. Pay attention to the comments on all those journals, updates and announcements, even journals from the community and forum posts, etc. and you'll see staff members replying directly to people, who else in other sites do that? Do tell me! So really, I don't know what else is people expecting from staff.

We all want things for the future, so when our wishes don't get granted or things don't go exactly the way we want them, it's understandable to feel angry, but that doesn't mean the staff don't listen. Don't you think is of the staff's best interest to improve things? This is their job! Literally. If they fuck things up it's their doom! Hello unemployment. So really, thinking the staff is just purposely making things worse is just nonsense. Just remember that a) it's impossible to make absolutely everyone happy, so yes, not all changes will be received with open arms, b) it's part of human nature to dislike change, that doesn't mean you can't adjust to them. and c) even if a change was actually a bad idea, give them a chance first, if with time its proved it's not working, things can be changed again.

So yeah, a lot of people is angry and/or fearful about Eclipse, that's understandable and was expected, it happens with every change or new feature introduced and has been that way for the past 18 years. But what now? What to do? There are a few things that I think all of us should do.

First of all, remember! It's a BETA VERSION, This is not even its final form! Expect things to be broken, missing or incomplete, that doesn't mean they'll be like that by the moment is official and finally released for everyone. Don't freak out! By all means, express yourself, be vocal about it! It's in fact, encouraged to give feedback, both positive and negative, that's the whole point of a Beta release, just remember that there are ways and channels for that. Yes, write a journal about it, start a Forum thread, etc. but if you're interested in getting your voice heard, there is an Overall Feedback form and a Feedback and Bug report . While taking the previous point into account, remember that there is no need to be rude about it, be constructive! TanyaSimpson wrote an excellent journal about this.If you don't have access to it yet, please don't believe in everything you hear until you actually test it yourself, and even after you have, there are a lot of rumors and conspiracy theories around, many of which aren't true or are just assumptions. Finally, let's keep positive about it! Give it a chance! Or if you can't possibly do that, here, you can use this stamp, submitted 8 years ago, now you can finally do it! You're welcome.

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