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Templar Mass Final

Knights Templar at Mass.
Oil on canvas, 100x60cm.
Thanks to ~Pandoras-Harbringer for supplying a good photo of this, and for buying the painting! :)
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DreamyNaria's avatar
Oh my god, how did you draw the church from inside? the perspective, very difficult in this case, the small paintings, the details of the windows!
dashinvaine's avatar
The church is largely invented, though a few of the details are based on features of various Templar churches. 
DreamyNaria's avatar
Invented? Even more difficult hahah the apse and the chapels are astonishing!
bogatyrkhan's avatar
It's very realistic and so touching.
Wow. This is fantastic!
sparearth's avatar
the detail is very nice. :)
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Pelycosaur24's avatar
Great Great Great Work! :clap:
Refreshing to see Templars shown as men of devotion and prayer. Very nice picture, which captures the right atmosphere.
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Isaac-Gabriel's avatar
May god gives you blessing!
wow! a masterpiece
Aodhagain's avatar
This is beautifully done. You did a very good job of capturing a Medieval look to it and making it realistic at the same time. The detail on the arches and the altar and stained glass windows pops really well, as well as the texture on the walls... Very nice. :) :highfive:
lycanthusincarnum's avatar
i see a pentagram and the sigil of venus both are not christian symbols but both can represent baphomet.. the bringer of truth and knowledge which the templars were rumored and still are rumored to worship attention to the shape of the order of the eastern star symbol it is an inverted pentagram..........
BroadwayJr's avatar
"Baphomet" was invented in the 19th century. And at this time of the Middle Ages, the inverted pentagram did not have a different meaning than the standard pentagram.

The two people who were behind the accusations of Templar paganism (which was, coincidentally, the *exact* same list of accusations levied against the Cathars in France a few decades prior) were the Pope and King Phillip of France, both of whom had a clear motive to get rid of the Templars (not to mention the Pope pretty much followed the whims of France at the time). The Pope didnt want an autonomous order having such a vast wealth, so he accused some of heresy to give a cause to dissolve the order (and merge them into the Hospitallers). And Phillip was massively in debt to the Templars for employing them in his war against England, and couldnt pay them off.
lycanthusincarnum's avatar
This was done a loooooooooooooong time ago... Though I honor Baphomet as a symbol of the horned god, I am not a Christian and do not see my comment as valid any longer
vonmeer's avatar
I keep coming back looking at fact I've replicated a version of the hat! After building my Templar hat I realized it has the same function of a Foreign Legion cap, protecting the back of the neck from the sun.

Do you know if any Monastic Order used this cap before the Templars?

It seems like a military cap they may have developed independently.
dashinvaine's avatar
To be honest, I'm slightly unsure now whether the flap part is accurate. It seems to be present in most 19th century illustrations, but looking closer at medieval images, the Templars usually have a cap a bit like a beret, without the flap section at the back. They usually have hair coming down, cut off level below the ears, which may have been misinterpreted as part of the hat, eg. [link]
vonmeer's avatar
You bring up an excellent point, I know Osprey Books have shown both versions. The image in your link shows up on page 26 of this book (Warrior 091 Knight Templar), and has no neck cloth as you know.

P27 shows a carved stone image that shows the cloth not being there on the first two but perhaps being on the third. I've looked over a few more books and I find the beret style top in all.

So it appears that the beret style was what was used in Europe...I see no sources that are contemporary to the Templars showing the neck cloth, but medieval illustrations are suspect as theres no proof the artists even saw what they drew.

I see a logical reason why in the Outremer the back cloth would be added in a practical protect from the sun. It's interesting, I'm going to look into some other monastic orders to see If I can find anything.
dashinvaine's avatar
I know the carving you mean and it's ambiguous. The back cloth would make sense, and certainly in later times a type of clerical cap was in use which may have evolved from such a configuration, eg. that worn by the Cranmer in Tudor times. [link]
vonmeer's avatar
While Cranmers is of a shorter (more stylized?) version of the Templar mystery hat, it leads me to suspect the Templars may have had a practical back cloth that eventually became shortened in the post-Outremer society.

I'm still looking, as it seems very practical.
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