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Fall of the Red Wolf (Canis rufus) by Dark-Hyena Fall of the Red Wolf (Canis rufus) by Dark-Hyena
I don't blame you if you don't understand the point of this picture. Indeed, the 2011 study (link: [link]) which definitively proved that red wolves are in fact wolf-coyote hybrids hasn't really been widely publicised by wildlife conservation organisations or wolf fansites (hmmm...).
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EddyBite87 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, boy. LOL.
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dark-she-wolf Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't think that just because an animal is an hybrid means it shouldn't still be protected when it's endangered. 
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firstarxoxpokemon Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol, also ligers and white tigers are stealing conservation money too
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Let them die, I say.
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Gojira5000 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I always liked Crocodylus mindorensis more, anyways. Let the speeshul hybrids stay in captivity where we don't need to worry about them clogging the ecosystems and killing off entire populations of native fauna like all other invasive species do, including cane toads and cats.

Pretty sure the Orinoco crocodile would deserve infinitely more conservational attention then what the Red Wolf gets; one's Critically Endangered and the other's a coyote with the words "Red" and "Wolf" slapped onto it. T'is a shame people tend to harbor hatred towards saurians in general, they really are fascinating animals; crocodylians especially.
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IllBuyYourOCs Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013
Nicely drawn
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Martymcchew Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013
This is awesome, down with the Red wolf!
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IllBuyYourOCs Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014
No
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Martymcchew Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
You know red wolves are coyote wolf hybrids, they don't need all of the conservation money, as long as you have both of them (Which aren't endangered) you can just breed them
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IllBuyYourOCs Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
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Martymcchew Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
But, then, why are you disagreeing with me?
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CherubFeet Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Even if red wolves may have a few distinct genes (as stated by some commenters below), their over all genetic strutcture is so similar to that of a coyote's, that they are technically not their own species. If you want to save an animal with "distinctive genes", help save the platypus and echidna. They are the most unique mammals, because they are the only remaining mammals that lay eggs.

Besides, if the "red wolf" does go extinct, it can be cloned (which, I honestly beleive is a waste). If monotremes die out, there is no way we can bring them back. In conclusion, I'd say it is the best option to ignore "red wolves" to save animals who are genetically unique and have no way of coming back.
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eremazing Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012
Whats so bad about hybrids
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012
Hybrids are not eligible for protection according to the ESA and the IUCN.

But even then, the actual wolf content in red "wolves" is so miniscule that they really should be viewed as mere coyotes, which are listed as "Least Concern" anyway.
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FrostedCanid Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012  Student Digital Artist
because wolves suck ass
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eremazing Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
Oh
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GreyCorbie Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
I'll leave you alone on the whole "is it a species" deal, because quite frankly, hybridization IS a way that new species form. But you're entitled to your beliefs, even if they're off the mark.

HOWEVER. You're argument is entirely ridiculous in that you're ridiculing people who support the protection of one sort of charismatic megafauna because you like other sorts of charismatic megafauna more. You're buying into the anti-wolfaboo trap here. Have a go at pandaboos and rhinoboos next time, will ya? And for the love of Christ, don't use anti-gay language in a "conservationist" setting. Your inability to make an eloquent, clean argument gives conservationists a bad name.
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
I agree, I could have put forth my argument better, so I'll take this opportunity to do so:

* The fact of the matter is, the red wolf isn't even a true hybrid. The actual wolf content within it (the part that's apparently worth preserving) is little more than 20-25%. It's really nothing more than a coyote with distant, diluted wolf ancestry. By contrast, there are coyotes on the east coast with far more wolf content than it does, yet it is perfectly legal to shoot them. What makes this population of North Carolinan coyotes so special, seriously?

* I actually prefer canids over rhinos and pandas. However, seeing as red wolves are really coyotes with wolf ancestry (which is not at all uncommon anyway), that makes them "Least Concern" according to the criteria set by the IUCN (which, by the way, is the same conservation status of red foxes, raccoons and humans). Yet, thousands of dollars are spent on preserving and advocating for this perfectly common, sometimes overabundant animal, whilst truly endangered animals like Hawaiian monk seals or California condors don't get half as much media attention.

* Perhaps "half-caste cretin" would be more appropriate.
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GreyCorbie Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
Because it's a specific sort with wolf ancestry. Duh. It's not genetically identical to coyotes or "Eastern coyotes", and it's got it's own niche. It is not actually a coyote, and shouldn't be regarded as such.

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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012
A specific sort? The coyote (the ones without wolf blood that we know of) native to that range is Canis latrans frustor, which doesn't appear to be endangered anywhere. Suppose we find a single specimen of the subspecies Canis latrans clepticus with the same taudry amount of wolf blood. Should that be captured and artificially isolated too?
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GreyCorbie Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012   Traditional Artist
Seriously? You're ignoring everything I've said, and keep insisting that a coyote is a coyote is a coyote. Jesus. "Red wolves" are NOT coyotes, even if they share a large amount of genetic material with them. You know, you're really pointless to argue with. You're so stuck on the imaginary implications of a single study that you simply refuse to listen to anything anyone else has to say.

Hybrid speciation IS a LEGITIMATE form of speciation. If you're alright with the decimation of all hybrid species (to which the red wolf may or MAY NOT belong), you're going to be left with a very lonely world with very little diversity.
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012
I do not advocate the "decimation" of the red wolf. My own stance is that it should be allowed to breed freely with the local coyotes (its own kind). I've never heard of red wolves killing coyotes. Indeed, they seem to like nothing better than to mate with them (hardly surprising, considering all modern red wolves are inbred from having been descended from a mere 14 founders). Let them do what they want, I say.
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GreyCorbie Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012   Traditional Artist
I'm cool with that, but I think they should be protected from people all the same, regardless of the money situation.
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sulfide Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
So, you agree that our government shouldn't be willingly shooting at coyotes that attempt to move in on red wolf populations, and let them breed, correct? Then please explain why this FAKE endangered species needs to be protected from humans.
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012
That's fine.

So, just to clarify, you'd be okay with red wolves breeding back into the coyote population (which would further dilute whatever wolf content was left in them), just so long as people stay away from them?
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grazatt Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012
The red wolf reminds me of Wile E. Coyote
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RadiantStar4 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is so full of epic win, I can't even describe the amount.
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Androidraptor Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012
Love it! Though it would be interesting to see some non-mammal and bird species in here. Plenty of reptiles, amphibians, fish, and invertebrates need just as much help as the more widely-publicized mammals and birds.
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bigfangz Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Student Filmographer
Oh my....
....I love this. :heart: But be careful. You might get some rage for this. oAo
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Nordica93 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2012  Student Writer
Just to be controversial, Wikipedia lists the Red Wolf as a 'hybrid species' - a distinct species derived from hybridisation between two other species. Hence, might the red wolf still merit some protection in the same way as a rare subspecies of a non-endangered animal? And if not, does it still deserve some basic right to existence, as it has also adapted and is naturally a member of a certain ecosystem?

On the plus side, it is thought that some jackals living in Egypt may actually be small wolves. You get some, you lose some. :)
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2012
The wikipedia article is woefully out of date, and needs to incorporate more info revealed from the 2011 study.

I don't think the red wolf should be exterminated, but I do believe that we should stop protecting it, when there are other species to be concerned about. "Protecting" it would basically involve slaughtering every single coyote in the area, to stop them hybridising. The irony is, is that red wolves simply are coyotes, and clearly want to mate with them. There is nothing particularly special about the red wolf warranting its continued purity. Pure coyotes do just as well in regulating deer populations.

I say, let them reabsorb back into the coyote population. It's what they want, and they've only been the way they are for something like 300 years (I know of domestic dog breeds much older than that).
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SonyFlash Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012
"Hybrid Faggot"

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Lyrak Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012   Traditional Artist
I find it interesting how genetics are changing how we define species nowadays. In some ways by the old definition the red wolf might still be considered its own species or subspecies depending on how many generations it pushed through where the population sort of only interbred with other indidivuals we might class as "red wolves". Though I so find it odd... the eastern coyotes we have here are suspected to be either part dog or part wolf, and they are rather unlike the "red wolf" in behavior if I recall from what I had read in the past about the formerly-known-as-Canis rufus (eastern coyotes are f'ing psychotic I swear... at least the ones we've got here). That could be the dog ancestry tacked on though. Seems that combination would make them extra-dangerous... get in some genes that would lend toward being less afraid of people and all that (there are still areas in this state where feral dog packs roam around and become quite the nasty little threat). Actually looking at the one chart... midwestern I assume would be our little hybrid and yep, holy crap dog. Always kinda suspected it, and there it is.

But I have to wonder if red wolves were actually well on their way to branching off as a separate species, had interference not come in, since I had thought they had sort of their own behavioral structure that didn't really match any of the others. Or if it's just a matter of environment altering the local behavior patterns of the various hybrids.

And now wondering just how long ago any records existed referring to a red wolf at all, given coyotes are actually considered invasive this far east, having moved in when other predators were killed off and trees were cut down giving more of an environment suitable for them. So was the red wolf just nonexistent until then and people just assumed they existed further back, did a few brave coyotes come east into the forests anyway earlier than anyone had thought they did, or perhaps did the "red wolves" come from the west and migrate east and somehow settle on the coast?

YES I am pondering in comment form. LOL
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Charanty Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
You made my day!
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mike-marten Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
Red wolves? They need to be all shot down.
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kapieren Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
I'm guessing the small mammal going for the balls there is a bandicoot?
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
It's actually meant to be a bilby, but that's close enough.
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nekonotaishou Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Professional Filmographer
So where do they stand now? I'm curious
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sulfide Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
They're still considered a separate species according to the IUCN and USFWS.
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5aq Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Hybrid Faggot"
That's a nice term, I might have to use that.
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Oaglor Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Is that an Ethiopian wolf above the gorilla?
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Dark-Hyena Featured By Owner May 31, 2012
Brown hyena.
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Oaglor Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh. I should start looking up skulls more often. . .
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tigerbreath13 Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There's a gorilla, panda, river dolphin, bandicoot, kakapo, kiwi, Amur leopard, Blue whale
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Puccoon Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The gorilla down in the corner is really, really pretty scary xD
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