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I wrote the following as a response to a sad and heartfelt posting by DNeil about recent deletions of some of his work and the impoosibility of his getting a fair hearing. At the end of the response I made a suggestion, and this Journal post is a way of starting that conversation.

Please do contribute to this discussion. If the situation is indeed hopeless, at least let's recognize it. If there's anyone out there with on-line organizing experience, we could certainly use your help. I do not believe that we have any legal options, at least based on the discussions I've had here with legal experts. So it's up to us. The only other option is "civil disobedience," which means not giving dA what they wish, which is our art, and for some of us our money.

So, let this Journal Entry be the invitation to a conversation.

Here's the response:

As I have posted several times, concerning this and other "lack of due process" issues, I too feel strongly that individual members here should speak out, as loudly and as often as they can. However, as with politics, it is not enough to speak out, although it's an important start. One must ACT. And, as your situation (and mine) clearly attests, it's not enough to act alone. Individually we have no power. As we all learned, starting back in the 19th century, ORGANIZING, forming a concerted movement, and specifying both the advantages of change and the negative consequences of failure to allow us due process, is the only way to get "City Hall" to bow to pressure and make a change.


Obviously, I'm not talking about unionizing (although for artists here at dA that might be an interesting idea). I'm simply talking about making a concerted, active attempt to put some collective pressure on dA, especially when it comes to reining in the "Purity Police." See, I'm guessing that the "Purity Police" already have some sort of organized thing going on here. Perhaps not, but it sure looks like it.

I co-founded the dA group, fetishvsbullying, to help us be more collective about handling hate speech, etc. Perhaps we need to begin with a group specifically designed to combat the "Purity Police." Seeking them out, making their presence public, engaging them in win-win negotiation if possible or, if they're not open to those options, taking steps to minimize their impact...would be an interesting start. I personally don't know what can be done, or how. At least not yet. But for starters we can have a conversation about it and get some ideas on the table.

To that end, I am suggesting that we use my page, dannysuling, as a place to begin this discussion.

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As of November 3, 2018:

There has been a really helpful additional discussion of this issue on TawnyT's page. Here' the link, which I'm posting here with Tawny's permission: Thoughts about Censoring. Please do keep this conversation alive and vibrant. It's not exactly uplifting, but it promotes a shared understanding of what we're up against and what our options are...and aren't.

Best to all. And Happy Thanksgiving!



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Amateur artist, professional writer, musician, champion of lost causes, blowhard and pedant, and active commenter and admirer of many (but certainly not all) artists and writers here at dA. I do not much admire the application of power by dA's administrators, however.

I have two accounts here at dA: 1) "dannysuling" is my home base for surfing and commenting, for maintaining personal and professional ties, and for posting story reviews, my own screeds, journals, and essays on topics having to do with what goes on at dA; 2) "bandmachart" – BandMachArt – is where I post stories I have written and amateur drawings I have done (most of which are adult and transgressive, so be forewarned).

I'm definitely of an older generation. I wasn't around when Washington crossed the Delaware, but I was certainly born well before Bob went electric at Newport. I care about good writing, good art, ethical behavior, the environment; I am a feminist!

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jerry001 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2018
Thank you very much for Watching :-)
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Femfan1 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2018
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JoeSketchConcepts-DA Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The common hotdog is the bastard child of a loaf of bread getting raped by a meat sausage.
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:icondannysuling:
dannysuling Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Got the metaphor.

But wha...???
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StudentOfRubber Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you kindly for the watch!
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dannysuling Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem. You're welcome!
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OttoBindender Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2018
Hi!
Since you once said that you`d like my doll artwork, there`s another story, (loosely) based on the "Gor"-novels by John Norman.
Greetings, Otto
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dannysuling Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
A fun, imaginative, and very humorous story. Thanks for letting me know you'd posted it.
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OttoBindender Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2018
Thanks for the kind feedback!
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OttoBindender Featured By Owner May 22, 2018
Hi!
I just saw your remark on Hugues`s painting. "Chap 7" means that it is an illustration of the seventh chapter of my story "Damsels of the Caribean", since Hugues is so kind and illustrates some of my stories. Feel free to watch my side!
Greetings, Otto
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