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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2018   General Artist
This would seem to be the only post in which you used some real black spotting, which creates much needed contrast. otherwise, because of the incredible detailing, the pieces tend to be gray.  The tonal schemes, therefore, tend to be weak.  They are gray on gray, or gray on white.  Here you have black and gray on white, which could be stronger, but it's at least moving in the right direction.

You seem to ignore the tonal scheme in favor of the detailed draughting.  But the tonal scheme is the most important element of composition.  It should be decided in the thumbnails in the design-stage.  Of course, now with digital it's possible to play with the design after the fact.  Do you do digital?  

In any event, marvelous technique and really good drawing.  Powerful imagery!  Good stuff.
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2018
Thanks for the insight, you're totally right. This was done back in 2010 and I guess at the time I was limited in my artistic influences and means of rendering the figure.
Around that time I became fascinated with this type of work
img.fireden.net/ic/image/1455/…

That sort of thing gave me a mentality of avoiding solid blacks into my work and preferring to have the darks in my images made up of built up scratchy hatchings instead of a solid dark tone.

And I kind of chased that for a while and as a result my stuff became mired in splotchy mid tones.  Eventually it got out of control it stopped looking appealing to me and I grew tired of it ( specifically the piece I did for mythic legions was the straw that broke the camel's back) and a couple of years ago I tried get more "crunch" back into my work.

I can do a bit of digital but for the most part there's a disconnect for me there so I mainly use it for post-work touch ups. I don't think I have it in me to create a piece entirely digital though.
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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2018   General Artist
Well you followed the classic method of the Pen Masters.  I wouldn't call that a limitation!  Technically, it's quite an accomplishment.  One has to be aware, however, of the limitations.  The Masters were aware, which is why they CHEATED.  haha. (i.e. wash tones, as mentioned in the note).  They were really painting with their pens, thinking hard and carefully about tonal contrast and blending in terms of the entire composition.  They made it work.  

These pencil examples are so delicately refined that I don't see how it's possible to translate them into ink, directly. The desired effect is a satin finish executed with a 104, or other ultra fine flex nib.  I tried for years to get master such a technique, and maybe came close with some things I did last Inktober, but, still, it's way over my head. 

All the same, it's not the technique that's on display; it's the composition.  And I would play with the designs to maximize the effects. 

Here's what I mean by tonal schemes - the basic five - with applications.  (BTW- that satin effect I mentioned is on the girl's face, second image to the last at the bottom.) 
  Basic Tonal Schemes by Sol-Caninus
So, then, you could play with your images in Clip Studio Paint, or PS, etc., to explore different tonal schemes.  And you could do that without messing up the originals.  
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2018
Great stuff, thanks!
i have to admit this type of stuff is kind of an afterthought to me but seems to be pretty vital...in fact, i would guess it's something that gives off a 'first impression' maybe more than whatever the actual drawing is, if that makes sense.
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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Edited Aug 24, 2018   General Artist
yes, that's it exactly.  The first impression is conveyed by the tonal scheme.  It provides the basic information from which one begins to make sense of what he sees.  They say 90% of the information we use to recognize a form is given in the silhouette.  The same idea applies to tonal scheme with regard to the entire composition.  

That it comes as an afterthought simply means that you're oriented to drawing, modeling, sculpting forms, primarily.  When you step back from the work or squint your eyes so that none of it reads clearly, such that all the detail is blurred and the only thing that reads clearly are the values, then you're orienting to the composition as a whole, as a painter.  This is also the level at which to deal with design.  This is what they call the postage stamp test - reduce the work to the size of a postage stamp or view it from a great distance.  If it falls apart, or doesn't read well, it fails.  The design should read strongly.  If it doesn't, or there isn't one, that's a big problem.  That is a pretty good indicator that the viewer must work too hard to get a foothold in the composition.  The comp should catch his interest, lure him in, then direct him here and there and keep him from leaving.  It's a seduction.

This is what I was getting at when I asked about digital.  You can work separately on building design skill by scanning drawings and playing with tonal schemes in PS.  I did that with some inks by :iconjimsandersiii: (his inks over Mike Zeck's pencils of Colossal Boy) that I recreated. (see below)  Some people have a knack for it, the rest of us have to study and practice.  LOL.     
Copy of Sander's Mike Zeck Colossal Boy by Sol-Caninus   Sanders Colossal Boy v2 by Sol-Caninus   Sanders Colossal Boy v3 by Sol-Caninus   
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2018
Really useful stuff..Thanks again!
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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2018   General Artist
Sure thing.  Sorry for using examples of my own work :blush:  Just the quickest way to show what I mean.  :iconsky-boy: has some good compositions, aside from the excellent technique. 
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CreepyBattenberg Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016
Hi danny I wonder if I would be able to use your artwork in a you tube video that I am doing about Harold the Haunted doll?

I am working with my friend Anthony on this and we would love to use this picture to represent a demon called Abbadon. We will credit you in the video description.

Kind Regards
Simon
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016
hey simon. 
sure, no problem.
send me the link for the video when you post it, thanks.
-d
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CreepyBattenberg Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016
Thank you so much Danny I really appreciate that! I will be sure to post the link here for you!
Regards
Simon 😊
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CreepyBattenberg Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016
Hi Danny here is the link for the video youtu.be/nXhrZ9IE9nI 😊
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CreepyBattenberg Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016
And thank you again! You are a fantastic artist!
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kimgauge Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi Danny, I'm a great admirer of your work and of course this one is another stella effort! Can I ask you what you are using? It looks like your using pencils, but how do you get your black areas looking so black - is there post production work on the contrast? Cheers Kim.
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
thanks. yeah, i'll darken(basically multiply the layer then duplicate it and adjust) and also bring up the contrast slightly digitally. 
also if you compare this to some of my more recent stuff I'm not really doing those dense dark areas on my figures anymore. instead i'm using hatching to build up the areas that would be dark. so i'm not really getting that dark look that i was doing a few years back.
cool gallery btw
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kimgauge Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks
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jeanfobferns Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
fuck yes
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2015
:highfive: :headbang:
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StarGamerWorld Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015
So as I said before, this demon is another great work of yours :D If he is your heroic/anti-heroic demon, what sort of personality would he have and how high a standing in Hell do you think he'd have? :)
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015
hes kind of a mid level savage type..
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StarGamerWorld Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015
Ah, interesting! So why would he be a hero or anti-hero then? Do you know what his motivation would be or such? :)
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
probably anti hero. not sure on his motivation
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StarGamerWorld Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
Gotcha. So how would he prefer fighting then? You mentioned he was like savage so would that involve berserker-like slashing and melee attacks? :)
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
right, that style of fighting..slashing away...and he can take damage as well. so he'd be pretty unstoppable in a battle..
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StarGamerWorld Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
Ooh nice! Sounds pretty great :D Like the idea of a heroic demon then? Whether it'd be this one or the butcher dwarf (which I like better lol)
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
yeah, i like the contradictions with that lol
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daliborgaric Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2014
Awesome !!!
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ovejuna Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
que bueno que esta Dios!
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014
gracias!
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ptrof Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014
Hi. I made this pic into a tatoo 2 years ago. If you'd like a pic send me an email : rosenperla@hotmail.com
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014
nice! do you have it posted online anywhere?
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ptrof Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014
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Kosslo Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
OK I have a new idol... your works are so complete. Poses, gestures, freaky immagination, shadowing... come on people can't draw like that ;). Good job, pleasure to watch your profile !
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
appreciate that!! thanks for stopping by!!
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Eliz-baxter Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
words cannot describe how amazing that is!!!! did you draw it from your head?? 
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
thanks. im sure i used some reference for things...
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legion666akaBarret Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Professional Artist
Dude awesome just fucking awesome...Would you mind if I did this as a tattoo? If you say no I will not do it..
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
sure! send me a pic of the piece...i'd really get a kick out of seeing that.
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legion666akaBarret Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Professional Artist
cool dude, and Thank you.
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kevinmccoy Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013
How do you start your process? Do you start sketching on paper, scan and work digitally or is it all digital? I really enjoy the details and shading, nice and epic composition.
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013
mostly sketching on paper, scan then touch up digitally...ie darken,contrast and some airbrushing..
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kevinmccoy Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013
I am still trying to figure out my process so thanks for the tip.
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Honneur-Whale Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
crazy..
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
thanks!!
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viewpointy Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
How did you draw this? With pencil and paper or a software (if it is a software, please tell me what it is :D)
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
yeah, traditional and digital...tradigital i guess. i used corel painter for this
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viewpointy Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Oh thanks! I also have corel, but do you mind telling me the brush you used for it?
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
hey! i used an airbrush tool.
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mickeyhouzplant Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
and another colouring ! [link]
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dannycruz4 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
nice! thanks!
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StonedSmeagol Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012
You're too good Brother, your pencil (& inkwork?) are F-ing awesome man. Not being a smart ass here, but I have'nt seen this style of shading & detail, or layouts & anatomy skills sinse my Uncle's work in 78. Out of the blue he would come up with these types of concepts & pencil work'(other than Frazetta, who would wizz sketches up in minutes or so. Big influence sinse 1980.). You've got that raw, powerfull traditional fantasy art technique down wicked:pencil:, & unfortunately, you don't see it much anymore. Artists today are too busy focusing on perfection, & not concerning moods or themes, only focus on the character. As with this sketch, judging by the many skulls, death appears swift. As powerfull as he looks, a swift death it would be indeed. But, credit's due where credit's due, you got a wicked gift Bro!:pencil:
P.S. Do you have books on your artwork for sale, especially with these works in your gallery!
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