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This change has now been rolled out to all deviants and visitors.

Three years ago, we launched the Today page with the intention of creating a daily “newspaper” about art and community activity. While it served its purpose in some ways, it unfortunately didn’t get as much traction as we hoped, and we noticed a lot of deviants switched their default page to the browse pages.


Starting today, we’re beginning to phase out the Today page. Over the past months, we’ve moved some of the Today Page’s features, like Daily Deviations and polls, to the front page of the mobile site. In keeping with the original intention of the Today page, we've also made the default page "What's Hot" to showcase a cross-section of the day's trending deviations.

As we move forward, we plan on focusing on improving the front page of DeviantArt, making it easier to find fresh content, inspirational activities, and deviants that are relevant to your interests.

Keep an eye on hq for more updates!



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Jorgipie's avatar
Jorgipie|Hobbyist Photographer
I think the today page offered a lot. Shame it's gone. Make a place to show new Deviants please since that is now gone.
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Blaria95's avatar
Blaria95|Hobbyist Writer
So basically, Deviantart made this switch because people were not interested in undiscovered deviant's artwork?  I'm trying to understand this topic.
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Vixenkiba's avatar
Vixenkiba|Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks a lot for this update Danlev, I must've missed it half a year ago!

I just want to put my own two cents in; I love the DA community and wish to see it grow, and felt like the today page was helping with that. It was nice that we could find the "newest joined deviants" and welcome them to the website, and I honestly really miss this feature. 

I also vote, like many others, to have the Daily Deviations on the bottom of our Notifications again, like in the past, since this GREATLY helps in giving those amazing artworks the attention they deserve. 

Thanks a lot, and can't wait to see what you'll come up with =)
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Blunell's avatar
Laptop user here, I second the previous comment (by Pentulintu).

I really regret the "Today" page, since I think it was a great way to see (and thus, to welcome) new deviants, to get a preview of DDs and to know at first glance who had been awarded a Seniority. I can't recall exactly all features that were displayed there but they were either interesting or useful.

The "What's Hot" and "Undiscovered" page, however... The former only displays the same overpopular deviations by overpopular members for days, sometimes even weeks, and I was getting tired of this so I gave up browsing it a long time ago; and the latter tends to display deviations with only a few favorites (though it's great for discovering underrated artists sometimes).

Don't get me wrong, I love this community and I may be one of the few that wouldn't even change its layout (I heard many people are tired of the website's skin). I just miss the "Today" page, which was a great feature imo.
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pentulintu|Hobbyist General Artist
Jfc. I'm old enough to recognize my own interests, having to witness the same (months or years old fresh) pictures days after days on my puny laptop screen is kinda starting to piss me off. Besides. What's Hot showcases deviants who've already managed to establish a (sizable) network of friends and followers. How nice of you.

The fact that we can't even change the default page... I know y'all literally do not care at all but, it's really disappointing how this site pretends to be there for all artists when quite clearly it's the hugely popular ones who've ever actually mattered. The front page doesn't even acknowledge newcomers. At all. Or anyone else for that matter, except in forms of visibility that currently, by default, is through What's Hot.
This hasn't felt like a community in such a long time.
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StephanieSmall's avatar
Thank you for the update.
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JCoolArts's avatar
JCoolArts|Professional General Artist
I hope something positive happens with deviantart this year..

Deviantart has lost it's passion by JCoolArts  
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SpectralNebula's avatar
I really appreciate all the work that goes into this site, it can't be easy for so few staff to keep on top of everything. When I enquired why I was no longer able to set default to "newest" (my personal favourite choice for the default), I received this response from one of your staff:

"Hi There, 

Thanks for your inquiry. We are in the process of phasing out the Today page. In keeping with the original intention of the Today page, we've also made the default page "What's Hot" to showcase a cross-section of the day's trending deviations. I'm afraid you will not be able to adjust the view manually. For more information, and to leave feedback, please review the announcement article. :)"

That's how I found this journal. I have to respectfully disagree that this keeps in line with the spirit of Today's page. "What's hot" doesn't showcase today's trending deviations, rather poopular work stays at the top for a very long time (weeks, months, years) and gets stuck there, new work is rarely ever seen on that page. "popular 24 hours" would have been a much better choice if your intent is to showcase today's trending work.
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PokeTitan's avatar
PokeTitan|Hobbyist Photographer
To be honest, I'd really really like to be able to switch to the popular in the last 24 hours page as defult again...
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Daisy-Flauriossa's avatar
Daisy-FlauriossaEdited |Hobbyist General Artist
I really don't want to hurt anybody on the staff, I know how hard it is to moderate a huge site like this DA but I have things to say:
... Now I understand why I couldn't find the "today" page ...
I'm sorry, but I really would like an option to set the main DA page on something else ("undiscovered" for example, I use this page all the time to find great and totally underrated deviants) than the "What's hot" with each day the same popular images and people. I'm sorry to say that but not having a real front/welcome page (organized, welcoming new deviants, showing various categories etc...) doesn't give a professionnal look to DeviantArt at all !
So whatever you do, at least let us customize what we want to see.
Thank you for reading.

(Edit : ...and bring back the DDs on a visible spot, please... I even forget they exist sometimes....)
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katherine-arts's avatar
katherine-arts|Student Digital Artist
any company/management/hq/whoever made this decision, they're allowed to make bad decisions, and that doesn't make deviantart bad. but the true test is listening to people's feedback. if people don't like it, change it back. they're the ones using the site, make them happy.
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HelloStarseed's avatar
HelloStarseed|Professional Digital Artist
Agreed. The Today page was really useful. I always used to use it to welcome new Deviants and it looks like a lot of other people did too. Despite the amount of feedback repeating this concern, it doesn't seem like they care. They've been doing a lot of things lately their own way despite their users wanting something different. Shutting down DAhub was another one. That was the most popular bot on this website helping users get exposure and earn points and now thanks to some of the changes their making, it will no longer be functional. I'll probably still use DA despite this but they're really going in a direction that isn't favorable to their users.
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Rigiroony's avatar
Rigiroony|Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree, it's really hard to get traction nowdays too. I hardly get any comments anymore, probably because a good portion of my follows aren't even on DA.
It's kinda sad when I get better results in Instagram and that platform is known for shutting people out to force paid promotions. 
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People complaining about seeing the same thing every day. Why doesn't anyone use undiscovered page.
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Pamela-Ibis's avatar
I will be blunt. I HATE the whats hot feature. its the same freaking images for days at a time before changing.
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IDEGZ's avatar
IDEGZ|Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a shame that they removed it, I used to use the today page to welcome new users. Now it is more difficult to find them and provide them with the tips that help them to develop in this community.
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starfast99's avatar
starfast99|Hobbyist General Artist
Ughh... I'm not going to lie, but I hate this. Sorry, but I really do. I liked seeing new art every time I logged in, not the same images over and over again. I do not, and never have cared about "what's hot." This is taking away exposure from new/unknown artists as far as I'm concerned. 
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HearseGurl's avatar
I always looked at it, pretty much everyday... sad but I cannot control it. Hope there will be another feature like this in the future, if not oh well. :shrug:
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Neozaki's avatar
Neozaki|Hobbyist General Artist
Really not a fan of seeing things I've already seen over and over years ago. The what's hot page sucks and reminds me of that 'popular first' shit a lot of social media sites have been pushing out recently... You know, that stuff people don't even want.
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OMGitsSomething's avatar
Who actually likes the "what's hot" page?
I never had that one as my default, now that it is, I'm sick of seeing it. When I'm browsing, I'm looking for things I haven't seen already, new artists to watch, artists I didn't know about; but "what's hot" is just the same old super popular stuff I've already seen a million times. If I want to see what's popular, I'll use "popular 24 hours", at least it changes up everyday. "What's hot" is a beaten dead horse. (beaten dead horses are not hot)
Even people getting featured on it seem to be complaining "why is this thing I drew years ago suddenly getting tons of attention again?" Most people don't like their old art that much, no matter how good it is from the viewer's perspective, they've likely improved over the years or even possibly changed their content, they want feed back on their newest work, they want to get their current projects out there.
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mhazaru's avatar
I don't like seeing the "What's Hot" page as my default. The results are usually contrived and somewhat pandering to the same types of styles or particular artists, sometimes for days on end. I would rather have the default set to Undiscovered or DD's. I've gotten a much better "fill" of art from Undiscovered since the results are always varied and are changing on a much more frequent basis.

Please change this behavior, or, just remove "What's Hot" completely. Thanks.
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Iduna-Haya's avatar
Iduna-Haya|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why? I used it quite often to find and welcome new members. Now there's no way to do this anymore, except wait for the occasional message from the Welcoming Program.

I think the reason it didn't get much activity, is because a lot of people were not really aware of the page in the first place. That could easily be fixed by spreading the awareness. 

I'd be much much happier to have the 'Today' page as my default page as the 'What's Hot' page. The 'What's Hot' page is NOT at all in keeping with the original intention of the Today page. Almost everything I see there is at least a few years old, and many of them have been on and off the What's Hot page several times already. Even the people featured there often dislike it, because they suddenly get notifications for deviations they'd forgotten about years ago. 
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barananduen's avatar
barananduen| General Artist
With the Today page (and therefore the New Members Lounge) gone, does that mean that the welcoming program is going to get phased out as well?
The New Members Lounge was a great way to make new members feel at home and be able to help them out with any questions they had (and most of them do have questions).
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GrayCoffee's avatar
GrayCoffee|Professional General Artist
So how am I supposed to greet new members exactly?? And I am not liking this automatic "What's Hot" page and seeing the same things over and over again.
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