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Sonata-Yanni's avatar
Sonata-Yanni|Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank you for everything,,it's sad watching you go after my return ;-;
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TobiIsABunny's avatar
TobiIsABunny|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok
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JD005's avatar
i luv dahub, bot is ironic xD
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ChicaSuperKiller's avatar
Thank you
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tackytuesday's avatar
tackytuesday|Hobbyist Digital Artist
RIp. Thanks for everything, love.
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Hitryi-Pryanik's avatar
Hitryi-Pryanik|Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for promotion. I hope, dAhub will rise and shine again with new power!
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NattiepuffTheFluff's avatar
NattiepuffTheFluff|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for all your services through the years, you helped many a small artist and writer on this site.
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dAhub's avatar
:ahoy: Thanks
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NattiepuffTheFluff|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Quite welcome~ Ahooooy Matey!
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Coolcar161's avatar
Aww man, I kinda want some points
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PastelBunnz's avatar
me too :(
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StarLightYT133's avatar
Thank you, dAHub!
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fukkai's avatar
thank you for helping me order my first commission ever on this site! even though it was a small amount, i appreciate your help and hardwork!
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dAhub's avatar
:) May I ask how much that first commission was for?  20 points?
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Rockwell-Light's avatar
Popping back in to say I appreciate you leaving updates on the front page about your progress! A lot of these events happened long before I ever found your account, and it's very interesting to see the different ways folks tried making points accounts like this in the past (both legitimate and not). Also all of the early reactions to this account, it seems like such an obvious thing that people would have been concerned at first, but having come here long after you were well established, it never crossed my mind. 

Keep up the good work!
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:ahoy: Thanks.  I'm focusing on some of the more unique point accounts in the report, but there are a lot of users who set up shop with manual point accounts and then abandon them 2-6 weeks later when they lose interest.  I'm surprised they can still find unique usernames.  Point-Police has one list of point accounts

All Points AccountsAll Point Accounts on dA
These are all accounts our admin have come across on dA
if you know of one we do not have listed please let us know.

These are all accounts our admin have come across on dA
if you know of one we do not have listed please let us know.
Updated: 10.14.2015

_________________________________________________________________________
Below are all the Points Accounts first collected and kept up to date by our admins.
Feel free to drop a comment telling us about ones that we forgot. ALL THE DEACTIVATED ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE LIST.
_________________________________________________________________________

Trusted Accounts

:icondahub::iconpoint-collections::iconpoint-master-pete: :iconxxpointseverywherexx::iconaussie-point-giver: :iconpointsofhumanity: :iconpoint-sempai::iconhelp-donate-points::icondailygiveget::iconsweet-toony-points::iconbeni-points::icon100millionpoints:         
to give you a sense of how many have been created and subsequently abandoned.

Yeah, after the first year or two people stopped questioning whether this account could exist.  That part always made me a little nervous since users were free to contact the help desk; if the staff ever decided what I was doing wasn't to their liking they could shut down my account.  The only thing I could do was to try to resolve issues with discontent users myself before they took issues to the help desk.  For example, when I first started the account, it never crossed my mind people would want refunds.  If they donated to receive watchers, why would they want some of their points back later?  But people make mistakes (ex. giving 1000 instead of 100 points), so it made sense to add in a refund feature so users wouldn't complain to the staff.
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Rockwell-Light| Digital Artist
I can't believe the sheer volume of accounts on that list, that's incredible! It really puts things into perspective. I see so few of theme these days other than the well established ones, but it really does seem like something plenty of people would have tried. 

I imagine there were quite a few bumps in the road like that, considering you probably didn't expect the bot to take off the way it did. There was originally not much of a need for certain features, so of course you didn't think to add them. Which leads me to ask, what made you consider implementing the "discover" feature/command? Was that an in-demand request, or something that you came up with and wanted to add to the bot? <: 
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>I see so few of theme these days
There's probably a few factors contributing to that: I'd say advertising/exposure is a dominant one, many users don't have the time/energy to commit to getting their account exposed fully before giving up :shrug:

>what made you consider implementing the "discover" feature/command? Was that an in-demand request, or something that you came up with and wanted to add to the bot?
:plotting: I've made a note to review my records for that as I'm going; I don't recall a specific instigating incident off the top of my head prompting me to implement it, just broad motivations in that direction.

That said, I've always had an uneasy feeling about the staff since they say very little but take drastic action sometimes.  One idea I stuck with from very early on was that this account should provide some altruistic/non-monetary services alongside the paid content.  The thought being that if I could show I was providing services to the community for free, I might have some additional soft leverage in any potential disputes.  That's where you get the GALGAL llama group service, the contest search engine, contests I held or partnered on, some early notions of a charity/wishlish concept, stuff of that nature: all took zero profit. I didn't implement these just to appease some vague notion of the staff's presumed desires, but it was a significant motivating factor (I really intended this to be a "hub" account with a diversity of services, not just financial transactions).

Wow, I didn't realize how long it has been, but a decade ago dA had a "discovery" service as a formal feature of the site [link].  They later nixed it; I don't recall there ever being an announcement of why (I'd assume low usage rates since it was obscure/hidden away, or perhaps they thought it was redundant once "More Like This" came out, who knows).  But I liked that feature and recall finding a decent number of artists through that.  Somewhere along the line it occurred to me that with the bot I had a lot of the information needed to offer a service like that: the bot already has a watcher list scraper as part of the watch/llama/fav code, so it was just a matter of re-purposing that with a temporary database (to avoid listing duplicate results or listing banned users) to produce the results for a "discover" query.

From a developer perspective, the script takes a while to run since it often requires a lot of page loads (looking up who the earner is watching, and then who all those users are watching).  I caped it at 60 seconds execution time iirc, so the results are biased towards the first users listed in the watch list: those who have earlier alphanumeric names ("a-user" is more likely to appear in the "discover" results than "z-user").

>you probably didn't expect the bot to take off the way it did
I had sugar plumbs in my eyes when I started this: I knew there must be some physical limit to how large an account like this could grow, but I didn't know what it was, but was willing to put in the time and effort to find out.  My original assumption was that the users who donated would turn around and earn more points that they would then donate, a circular economy of sorts where I'd be profiting off each cycle.  However, the money flow appears far more unidirectional in practice: those donating to be featured are a notably different demographic than those earning points.  For example, I think if you just looked at the file types of the avatars, you'd find earners were more prone to animated (gif) avatars than donors (I think earners were younger and generally lacked access to credit cards, a problem donors did not have because they were older).  In reality, the limiting factor restricting growth is the number of donors willing to fund the system.  A donor donating twice as much will just run their feature twice as long.  To fundamentally increase the average throughput of points moving through a point account requires encouraging more donors to contribute.  Earners can always watch one more donor, so that's not as much of a limiting factor.  I kind of think of it like Drake's Equation: the number of donors is the product of the number of accounts on dA (50+ million), times the ratio that are active (something like 100k of all accounts are active month-to-month), times the ratio of those who want more followers, times the ratio of those who are willing to buy in-stie currency, times the ratio that know about dAhub, times the ratio that trust dAhub.  The product of all that determines the throughput (and profit) of this point account.  In a roundabout way, the activity on my account is driven directly by the size of dA, but only in a law-of-averages stastical kind of way: the activity passing through my account was peanuts compared to the site as a whole.  A few years ago dA sold out to Wix for $36M, yet after many years of operation the total profit made by this account was roughly $100k of points, or generously 0.3% of dA's valuation.
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RyanBeatsEdited |Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So it's down now? No more points to earn?


Really gonna miss it. Was helpful to me in the past though I didn't use it as often. Glad you were around to do such a feat on this site.
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EnigmaticChaos|Hobbyist General Artist
Wow! I'm sorry you went through so much trouble! Thank you for everything you've done for the community!

What are you going to do with the mountain of Point's you've aquired/obtained?
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dAhub's avatar
:) Welcome

I'm in no rush to spend it.  I can commission artists with it, so I plan to illustrate the final report using the funds from the project.  I also have needs for pixel graphics and music in various pursuits, so I'll tap the funds where I can get value out of it :shrug:
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deathbycat146|Hobbyist General Artist
you have been a big part of my life here on DA I hope it all works out for you
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VeronicaTheCuteGirl|Hobbyist General Artist
Right? I remember being on here years ago, and I just came by to check up on some stuff after years of inactivity, but it seems dAhub came down. I'm so thankful for the creator to have done things like this for the community, and although a lot of us are sad to see it go, we're glad it was a part of the DA experience.
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dAhub's avatar
:ahoy: I'm glad you found value in this project
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