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I won't tag anyone because chances are nobody wants to get the stigma from this journal.

Now then. As the title says, this is probably a sackload of crappy emotions flowing into the group for once. But bear with me.

I want... opinions. Here are some things I have major issues with in the group but would like to know what the members think before taking action on it.

:bulletblack: Cosplayers. We all love a spot of cosplay (probably). Well. I don't know, really. But you know what I'm sick of? All cosplayers being  what is, let's face it, cute girls. I've seen one, count them, one male cosplayer in my months of running the group (shoutout to :iconr-legend:, he's an amazing guy). But on a few specific feminine cosplayers submitting to the group (not naming names), I have to notice every outfit consists of revealing clothing and some anime-esque weapon. This would be fine. What I'm sick of is people adding tags like sexycosplayergirl or sexycosplay. It's bullshit. It's just lightweight... we'll just call it incentive, hmm? I'm sure you can figure out what I'm getting at here.

:bulletblack: Games like Darkstalkers. It's coming to the point of Dead or Alive with a few characters from this game (I believe the names are Felicia and Morrigan?) who are constantly portrayed nude or damned near close. Hell, Felicia's 'clothes' are just stripes on a nude body.

:bulletblack: Distortion pieces. I've seen about ten submissions recently like this. They take a game character and do bloody weird things with it (generally with a name like BERSER or MERIO or something like that). It's sort of uncomfortable to see all of my childhood memories be put through a meat grinder (literally, these are pretty often very gorey) so... this is less of a big deal, but it's still open to debate.

Alright. My rant is over and I feel light headed. Cheers.
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Cartoon-Knight Featured By Owner Edited May 4, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Happy to see this brought up.

The issue for me is that i usually feel that cosplays that play on the "oh look, more boobs" card lack actual resemblence to the character or are sloppily carfted, so that it boils down to "naked lady with duct tape on privates".
If looking through the cosplay galleries and stumbling across (or rather falling into a bottomless pit of) "sexy" cosplay, it would be nice to see more effort put into actual erotik/romance than just badly captured nudity.

Besides the fact that im not interested in half naked ladies, I don´t mind as long as its a well done cosplay.

EDIT: Aswell tired of everyone and everything constantly being portrayed nude/"sexy". Games such as Dragon Age are amazing but some fanart... I feel like it ruins the characters and the authors intention. From a well written character ingame to a simple pin-up in fanart? C´mon. Adding up, how does there even so much weird fanart of Vicar Amelia (bloodborne) exist?
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 4, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, exactly! Many people here assume I do this for the kidsi n the group, which is true, but it is not the full reasoning. I'm tired of seeing the game creator's content being defaced constantly by artists too lazy to create unique content.

So... thanks for commenting, mate.
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Cartoon-Knight Featured By Owner Edited May 4, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree, I think fanart should always be a tribute to the original creators too and strive to capture the mood of the source material. I keep thinking that if I was the author of a video game character, i would be shocked to see my own work/ideas/and emotions butchered by it being turned into an object of(ofcourse, not necessarily) unaestethic sexual content.
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Evo-ker Featured By Owner May 4, 2016   Digital Artist
That's for sure, specially when the game characters in storyline  just a partners, good friends, or blood relatives. And what is really sick - when they have the same gender : a ton of yuri/yaoi fandoms it's a pain on ass for people, who really love this characters without any sexual meaning. Nuu 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 4, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Precisely! Thank you for understanding perfectly.
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NotaNameWaster Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
1. Well, do they cosplay as characters who simply dress like sluts? Or do they take modest outfits and then sex it up? If it's the former, well... fictional females tend to be designed to look like sluts. It can't really be helped. The latter however, is a different issue, being an inaccurate representation of the character.
In regards to clickbait... people want their work to be viewed, why wouldn't they? I see nothing wrong with clickbait, really. Everyone is aware that clickbait is common, if we choose to take the bait anyway, that's our own fault.
As for cosplay being female dominated, well... so? Men are as free to cosplay as anyone else. If they don't, then they don't. Again, it can't really be helped. You could scout out cosplayers specifically for being men, or if any more contributed to the group, you could give male cosplay members the spotlight. That's a dangerous line to walk though, as you may easily end up giving cosplayers the spotlight simply because of their genitals and not their talent.

2. People like sexy stuff, I guess. What's the problem .-. I'm an asexual personally, and even I don't see the big deal... it's unfortunate how popular near-nudes (and actual nudes) are, but it's as valid as any form of art. And like my first sentence said, a lot of video game characters are designed to look like sluts. You could strictly enforce a conservatively-dressed characters only rule, but you'd be shutting out an insane amount of potential submissions simply because they show skin.

3. Are these recolours of characters, or from-scratch new art? If it's the former, you can ban recolours/sprite edits. It's not like that kind of work is really... well, actual work. If it's the latter... well, while disturbing, they should still be allowed to make twisted fan art of video game characters. Though Merio does sound like some OWN ORIGINAL CHARACTER CREEPY PASTA THE PLUMBER type of shit xD
I thought NSFW stuff was banned anyway though, but these distortion works are allowed?
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
1. They, as a group, tend to do both; and I don't mean all cosplayers, of course. There are a good deal of them who will, say, take a character from Resident Evil and do a splendid job and not rely on sexiness at all.
I am not totally against clickbait. I'm simply against the immoral kind. As I've said, there are well over a couple thousand underage viewers in this group; I won't be responsible for their degradation.

The problem? Again, children. Again, immorality. I realize my views are... let's face it, weird, especially coming from an atheist, but I truly don't believe I must endorse these perverts in their escapades simply because of popularity. That would be like saying I must endorse Justin bloody Bieber simply because people enjoy his music. It's a stupid idea to think so. I don't hold it to be as valid; it's lazy to rely on sexuality and cheap hormones to fuel your favorite bar and I'll be damned if I don't at least attempt to fight it.

Ah, you take my ideal a bit to the extreme; I'm fine with skin. Hell, I'm fine with a bit of sexiness. The things I'm declining range from vore to child pornography and everything in the damn middle. I decline roughly ten things a day based on this self oath. It seems to be working rather splendidly.

3. I really haven't the foggiest if they're the former or the latter; I've been declining on the basis of ideologically sensitive content and gore.
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NotaNameWaster Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
Ah, so the issue is children, I see. DA has barriers in place to prevent minors from viewing mature content, but I can see why you might think that isn't enough, it is easy to get around. As for endorsement, allowing content you dislike to exist in your group isn't endorsement, in my opinion. It'd be condoning it. I don't mean to nitpick vocab, it's just, I never meant to imply you have to approve of and support sexual content. 
Semantics aside, you decline content that is heavily sexual or fetish-based, and gory stuff, and that sounds pretty fair to me. Do you think you need to take further measures to prevent kids from seeing inappropriate stuff or? If your current system is working splendidly, and it does seem to as I don't see anything inappropriate in the group, what is the issue? You already keep out child-corrupting porn stuff. Are you just frustrated with the clickbait you consider to be immoral, and the amount of content you end up having to decline?
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Endorsement as in supporting it; is that not the purpose of a good group? To allow people to flaunt their skills so they might be noticed and get the attention is they deserve...

I know you never meant it. I say things purely because I know people will see this and consider my motives.

Yes, I do believe I should; I'm an atheist who happens to be a moral crusader.

The issue? Merely the existence of the pieces and their continuation to be submitted here; if a nation is attacked, but it still wins regardless, is it not still being attacked, and still at a loss? I go through, as I said, a great many. I really haven't the patience to deal with these things.

So... i suppose your last sentence is a viable essence of my conundrum, yes. But it can only be a part of it; on the whole, I'm angry at the dA community.
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NotaNameWaster Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
Hm... I don't think the rules need to be tightened. Around ten declined submissions a day, especially on such a fetish-heavy site like DA, is actually amazingly low, imo. Honestly an obnoxiously giant "NO NSFW SUBMISSIONS" somewhere on the main page could probably get that number down, as people are more likely to see that then they are to bother  reading the rules. It's sad that this is the case, (as is the nature of most humans being perverted), but I actually do think it would help this problem ^^'
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I'd rather not resort to something like that. NSFW is a term open to be interpreted by the community; we're gamers, yeah? Most of us like blood, which is theoretically an NSFW red flag. It appears I'll have to simply inform each and every damned pervert of the rules...

*Sigh*
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TheTrueDollMaker Featured By Owner Edited May 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
It probably would've helped if you were more specific and less vague about shit. For example, I don't "think" your issue is with sexy cosplays per-say, but the lack of work put into them, or how click-baity they come off as to you. This is kind of hard to get initially because you weren't very clear about it.
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
The issue remained general (a much less aggressive word than "vague about shit") because it is a broad issue. Yes, you have addressed an aspect of the problem; I, in fact, have an issue with most of dA in general on this subject. What you call it whenever, a lot of what I speak of would be classified as pornography by the naked eye. So yes, you've addressed an issue; well done! But there's many more to come.
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TheTrueDollMaker Featured By Owner Edited May 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh please, If you felt I was being "hostile" I am sorry, but you could've said as much without resorting to this passive-aggressive nonsense.  As someone who has clinical depression, I was making that suggestion because it would curtail any misunderstandings about your stance. Frustration is a large issue when it comes to depression. What would really help is getting over yourself because your attitude stinks with pretension and childishness. 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 4, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
You deny you were being hostile?

Yes, I understand that. I've been in and out of therapy on the subject for years, so perhaps I did the same as you; on that front I should apologize now. I daresay our personalities could be quite similar so I really cannot hold you to any boundaries I do not hold myself to, and vice versa.

I would like to ask, however, that we don't insult each other anymore, hmm?

Now then. You addressed a single aspect of my point; not all of it. That is pretty much all that needs clarified unless you can be slightly more specific about what you want to know.
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TheTrueDollMaker Featured By Owner Edited May 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
It was not my intention to do so I, which is why I apologized for it. My mannerisms may come off as such so I tend to apologize and then correct my behavior if/when I do. I do make exceptions to that such as when I feel the person is overeating to me.

Possibly, my bouts of depression are so strong I have given up hobbies because someone said something I'd made was trash. I suppose we could be kindred spirits.

I can agree to that if there isn't anymore condescension or hostility from either of us.

 I interpreted that as one of your issues and then used that point as an example. If I had to guess you don't like the mutilation fetish of some when it comes to older characters like Mario, Zelda(maybe?),etc. You don't like the distinct lack of male cosplayers either I take it. My reason for not cosplaying is due to my age(I'm 31) so I tend to be less inclined to do that sort of thing.  As far as click-bait goes, when something like 15 visitors a day is a large improvement for you(You in the general sense) I don't see using click-bait as a bad thing.  It's already an agonizing process to get attention, especially with how over-saturated everything is I don't see the issue with trying to be seen.

BTW, Morrigan isn't portrayed as nude in the games. You mentioned that she was and she isn't really. She's actually covered up for the most part save for her some of boobs. The amount of flesh shown by her breasts is often inconsistent, but that's about it.
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 4, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
No. I meant to say Morrigan is generally portrayed nude in fanart.

(By the way, I often read comments backwards. Dunno why.)

No, the mutilation thing is just sort of... an instinctual off-putting effect for me. It just bothers me to see it. Really couldn't give a specific reason why.

No, I don't; I'm not really against the female population of cosplayers as such, just their methods in achieving fame. I have yet to see a particularly popular one who didn't flash her panties or some shit at some point. And no, I don't blame you for not cosplaying; I wouldn't either, but for different reasons. I suppose the issue is more on the popularity difference between sort of NSFW cosplayers and SFW cosplayers.

Click bait... to an extent. Again, it's back to the means behind the clickbait. I'd like pieces to use clickbait to invoke curiosity or interest for reasons other than lust.

Thank you. I really do hate arguing with people over misunderstandings.

Yes, that happened with me. Luckily I had a few friends who managed to convince me otherwise. Came this close to just quitting dA.

Yes... that often happens with me as well. My odd phrasings will often be either confusing or offensive for people when I really do not intend that to be the case; granted, I am a natural cynic so I suppose it might be some subconscious urge but I myself do not intend the offense. If that makes sense.
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R-Legend Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks man! Best thing to do about cosplay or any works is start favoriting/adding the legit cosplay photos and game artwork you actually like to the group and inviting cosplayers/artists who actually wear/make things to legit look like the game or the characters. This requires some work and research though. And DA's search engine. Fill up the group with more fulfilling stuff to offset the stuff you may not care for.
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I'm not saying that this is a flood of things; we get roughly 100 submissions daily and, oh, let's say maybe 10 of those will be rather unfortunate pieces.

Perhaps I will begin looking for skilled artists to assist in offsetting, as you said, this problem. Perhaps we'll be the one clean group on dA... hah.
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Evo-ker Featured By Owner May 3, 2016   Digital Artist
Well, it's not only about cosplay. DA is really changed last years : so many horny fanboys and fangirls with a bedroom selfies they called "cosplay" and endless porn fandoms , so little true game artists.:( (Sad) 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, it has, hasn't it... I've been here a mere nine months and I've seen the decay of actual art just in this group alone. I'd like to go back to a lot of good artists making amazing game art just for the hell of making something beautiful that everyone can appreciate; I had hoped there would be less friction to such an ideal.
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ThePenguin78 Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
You're right, and that's sad... Guess we'll have to keep doing what we do and ignore that.
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Bytecraftninja Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
EZ solution! Just don't look at it.


:P

jk I see what you're getting at
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Well. Alright.
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Bytecraftninja Featured By Owner May 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah.
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Demonology7789 Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
If your getting alot of that sort of thing then it's probably popular. So getting rid of it would probably harm the group more than help it
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I beg to differ. I would say it is popular, of course: but this group was created for game fanart, meant to be loved for it's beauty, not for it's lustful qualities; if the group loses fame for this, then would it not be only those who support such vandalism in games? I check every member who has left us in reaction to this journal. I have yet to see one whose art was not merely an extension of this... this filth.
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Demonology7789 Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
Lol fair enough I personally haven't seen the stuff your talking about so I suppose I can't comment. I'm just judging it on the stuff your complaining about
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Yes... these are quite fluffy examples, aren't they? I truly wish I could show the group the darker side so they could see what I mean when I say things like "this disgustin cosplay"...

Alas...

Anyways, thank you for your insight, regardless of its content.
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Demonology7789 Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
perhaps wording your journal better would help people understand what you mean
good luck
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Ah, the wording I can blame on good ole Uncle Aspie. I've always had issues on that front.
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Demonology7789 Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
it's all good
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Cheers mate~
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Onimu Featured By Owner May 2, 2016   Digital Artist
uhhh... you're tired of cute girls? good luck with that one lolInkling Girl Shrug Icon
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
No. I'm tired of the clickbait related to it.

And I don't mean the Splatoon people if that's what you mean.
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Onimu Featured By Owner Edited May 3, 2016   Digital Artist
Well everything on DA is 'click bait.' IDK it really seems like you're just upset about sexuality being used for self promotion. You say it's just the tags but I think it's something more.




I think your jimmies have been rustled. 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
No; pornography simply isn't art. It was not made with good intentions and requires much lower skill than real art. Oh yes, it's far beyond tags. It's the whole bloody genre.

Really? I think you're passive aggressively attempting to defend your art. I wonder which of us is right?
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Onimu Featured By Owner Edited May 3, 2016   Digital Artist
Nothing passive about it...

The things you're saying now simply aren't true. Of course sexy stuff is art- are you joking? Two people having sex can't be art? A naked girl can't be art? Don't kid yourself Xeru. Some of the best artists on the planet make hentai or porn if you like to call it that... or if not that, at least art with a very sexual component. Same goes for cosplayers, of course. 

Personally since you asked for ideas man I think you need to embrace the culture of sexuality in videogames. I assure you it's innocuous ;) You don't have to become one of these 'horny fanyboys' lol also it will not make you gay, those are just rumors. 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
No. None of those things are art by definition. Art requires creativity; I see nothing in such things as you have named.

No, they really are not the best. They may have many more favorites, but really, find me one even halfway as skilled as, oh, let's say :iconkerembeyit:. Just a single one I could respect the style of, not the content.

No, I really don't need to, that's simply a rather childish subset of games, built for people with no vision and no appreciation for anything else, simply an animal urge that can be ignored by those with the correct will and morality. Your arguments simply have no ground to stand on.

Gay? Hah, you are a child, then. You use gay as a precautionary warning or, more likely in this context, an insult? I won't have it. You simply do not know what you speak of. Yes, I asked for opinions. But I expected something beyond this puerility.
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Onimu Featured By Owner May 3, 2016   Digital Artist
I didn't use it as an insult, just saying its okay lol. 

Look I see where you're coming from, I really do, but all you're saying comes down to 'i don't like it.' Oh well, I won't keep trying to change your mind. 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
No, it doesn't so you really don't see where I'm coming from.
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ScreenCaptain Featured By Owner Edited May 2, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love me some sexy cosplay, but I'm just here to submit my work and look for anyone else with similar talents. Submit what you will as long as it's in the appropriate folders. ;)
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Aha, ScreenCaptain! Yes, I know you by name, really, even though we've never really spoken. You do very fine screenshots, if I recall, quite a lot on planes.

(And yes, thank you for submitting to the appropriate folders, saves me a bundle of time)
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ScreenCaptain Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed a lot of aircraft and a little bit of cars on the side until I buy some new games with impressive realism. I really ought to work more on my Star Citizen shots.
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trainer-mana Featured By Owner May 2, 2016
Eh.

Sexy stuff? I don't really get bothered by it. Personally its just a way to cash in on cheap hormonal reactions but people still like roller coasters. And technically speaking that's exactly what video games do as well, get you excited, sad, (aroused), angry, feel accomplished. There are different strokes for different folks but saying that sex is immoral because it prays on the arousal of men (and sometimes women) is like saying horror games are the worst thing because it brings out the emotions of fear. And fear is something that you generally DON'T want to be feeling, especially considering the reason we have it is not to be eaten by spiders, while arousal passes on your genes to the new generation (which is a good thing apparently). I have heard that people don't like sex in video games because it supports misogyny and degrades women to be nothing but sex objects but then they seem okay with playing Counter Strike and supporting terrorism and gun violence.

The way I believe we SHOULD judge work, even if its not our thing, is if its good at what it does. Actual talent and hard work are put behind a lot of these pictures and cosplays. When you build the roller coaster you need to work out the math, buy the metal, work yourselves to death, and then realize that you have made a fast pace ride that literally runs only on gravity, which is a very impressive thing to make. When you cosplay you got to buy all that fabric, spend a lot of time making the weapons and armor, getting a good photographer, and then shoot the photos. For a sexy picture you need to have had years of skill with drawing, good references, and probably throwing out the first three drawings you did before because they just weren't what you had in mind. Time and effort goes into these things and while sex may be an easy target to hit so is SCP, Undertale, MLP, and other large fandoms.

Now as for the distortions, this is a very different kettle of fish. I'm not sure exactly what you mean but the same rules apply. "Did this thing have time and effort put into it and does it do a great job at what it does?" If the answer is yes, move along. Personally what I associate "distortion pieces" with are artwork done of a character, usually that of a large fandom, drawn intentionally very poorly. It pretty much screams "Your fandom sucks and none of you can make good artwork so fuck you." There are a few problems with this:
1. Its straight up offensive
2. If you think sex is a quick publicity grab then you better not blink because people are like flies attracted to excrement when it comes to these things.
3. It might as well be copy paste because of the lack of originality, and then done 5 hundred times. If I had a penny for the amount of these that exists, I would have a bunch of useless metal in my pocket that would be about the size of a small rock that would cause me to be completely immobile due to the sheer weight. And granted I could just give it to one of these novelty "change for cash" machines but those take some of the money away from you and in the end I would only have get about five dollars out of it, which isn't enough to get my faith in humanity back.

But that's really my two cents on it.
So here you go.
Here's my $0.02 
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Welp. I type this before reading, so let me just say... this is a lot of reading... Alright.


Er... Alright, on this first point: Yes, that is actually one of my main issues which you've actually wrapped up quite well. It doesn't really need to be good art; it just needs to be good enough to... ah yes... "cash in on cheap hormonal reactions". It's wrong to call it art. And no, I don't claim sex itself to be immoral; I claim the preying on such a thing as an excuse for laziness and lewdness is immoral. Not to mention the fact that a great many members here are children and I sure as hell won't be responsible for the corruption of a new batch of kids. Bugger the whole "unholy" shit (pardon my French), it's just wrong.

My opinion on gun violence in games is a pretty simply one: therapy. It's pretty good for blowing some steam and it keeps people from actually shooting one another and doesn't really seem to effect people's morals beyond in-game. Sex in games ,on the other hand, appears to do just that; it breeds apathy and almost animosity, from what I can tell.

My argument still stands through the talent bit; many a cosplay I am fine with, they do wonderful work doing a wonderful cosplay, as I have mentioned; even now there is a spectacular woman doing Resident Evil pieces. However, if that effort is made to simply degrade the minds of our members with lustful intentions, then can we really accept it? That is the only flaw with your roller coaster argument; these things truly harm us, so perhaps a drug of some sort is a better comparison. It harms us mentally, as I said, degrading our morality.

By the way, on a side note, it tickles me that you mentioned SCP over Creepypasta. I'm unsure of if you visited my page before commenting, but I'm likely one of the last major advocates for SCP.

Distortions are, of course, less of an issue. Most of them tend to be Creepypasta affiliated, either on games made up based on popular (normally Nintendo) games. Your views here are rather intelligent, and therefore I will allow them in assuming, once again, that actual talent goes into these pieces (although perhaps I should require a filter based on ideologically sensitive content...)

Thanks for responding so avidly, it really does me good to see someone really think on this.
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trainer-mana Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
Hm...

Regarding that remark about children, people below 13 shouldn't be on this site anyway... granted no one listens to that but there is a reason for it. And if anything else, there are mature tags. If we have an issue where things are not being tagged as mature content, that is a separate issue.

Permit me if I am wrong, but am I understanding this correctly that you think that lust is a thing that will degrade the minds of our society?
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XeruFury Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
There is quite a large margin between 13 and 18. And yes, I understand mature tags. It's just that most people ignore that sort of thing or make it so you can still view it.

Has it not already? Such an emotion is violent and cannot really be sated. I'll have no part in that interaction.
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trainer-mana Featured By Owner May 3, 2016
Sorry, computer sent the comment before I was finished. I now have enough circumstantial evidence to prove the universe really is out to get me.

Anyways! The idea of lust is a thing that is directly wired into our minds by hormones. It has been there since the dawn of time. It doesn't even need to come from images, it can come from simply looking at someone. And if it was that bad its amazing that I would be able to speak to you right now because all the scientists would be busy snogging their wives, and then following up with :iconcensordplz::iconcensordplz::iconcensordplz::iconcensordplz::iconcensordplz::iconcensordplz: you get the idea. Basically, in order to nullify lust entirely you would need to pretty much need to censor women (or men, women have hormones too) as well as images.

Of course, this has prompted the idea of Pashtun in the Islamic religion, which leads to the dehumanization of women as well as domestic tensions but all of that is a VERY heavy ball to be thrown around and I would rather not even try to pick it up right now.
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Hah. No, the Islam faith is simply extreme for me; I'm not a feminist but I'm not anti-feminist either.

And yes, I suppose you could argue that humanity relies on it; but I'll argue that porn is different than a wife, and that is what most of this content is, porn. No, my goal here is not total annihilation; as I've said to some of these people, I'm fine with sexiness in general (to an extent, at least). I'm just tired of them crossing the boundary into porn.

I hope you can understand my ideals here.
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