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So Curia-DD just had a ton of stories removed that she had already edited to match TOS here. I recall the original debacle of folks reporting stuff and she was careful to bring anything in line that needed to be. Well apparently along with having a bunch of them removed she has received a one month suspension. 

Considering that the climate here has been DA allowing folks to harass a good number of people, personally think they are on shaky legal ground. Especially considering they are fairly lackadaisical, inconsistent, arbitrary, capricious, and otherwise with their actual enforcement here.

For those that like to harass folks with fetish interests, go get over yourself. You don't want to cross swords with me.

Anyways, I have been for sometime planning on working on an alternative site to DA, cause frankly, I like this place most of the time but its completely inconsistent enforcement and allowing folks to be harassed (illegal by the way) ... drives me nutty. So I'm accelerating my plans to build a site alternative the specifics I'm ironing out with the backbone of software to use for a prototype with CaptainHarlock-42 .. I may pull others into it. It may be limited to TF/MC/Peril, but some of the restrictions won't be in play that you see here... working that all out and finding the proper hosting and software we want to build that backbone with a single sign on etc.

No promises, as this stuff takes time and money, but looking at it.

But I've about had enough. 
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finister's avatar
That sucks. I had heard a lot of folks were getting notices and stuff pulled.

The monitoring is inconsistent because I've seen images here that have been here for years that violate every rule on the site and remain up today and then stuff gets pulled that's not really that bad.
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah see that is the problem that bothers me there is stuff here that I see on a daily basis that remains up. I don't go and report it all as frankly they make the reporting process a real pain and frankly it is not my job to go and report this stuff... that is on the Admin staff to do IMHO. I get they are swamped though... but still. 

What is going on though isn't about rules it is about someone not liking the subject matter, and looking for trouble even if its not there, and the Admin staff not checking things through in detail to see if it is correct assessment/valid report or not.

Do I have a problem with folks breaking the rules? Sure. I follow them to best of my ability sure in my tenure here I may have violated something not sure I have a lot of work here :) So sure, I like to see rules followed but I also like to see the rules upheld consistently. I also like to see folks that don't like the subject matter and sending false reports in etc... to be banned for the behavior as it violates the rules as well. Harassment is not only a violation of the TOS but also illegal, and things like class action, putative damages, can occur when you find a lawyer willing to do something about it, which I am sure we could find if necessary.

Personally I don't have a problem someone doesn't like my subject matter, I have a problem when they attempt to harass me for my opinion being different, my interests not being the same as there, and their attempts to repress me. Which frankly won't stand for me.
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abashful1's avatar
Oh man, Am I ever interested. I haven't been harrassed but that is only because work keeps me too busy to post much. Its my friends I want to have a place to go. And, quite frankly, after this last round I really, Really, REALLY want to stop paying DA to punish us!!!
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well. It won't be a open site to do whatever you like to be honest. :) Need to filter it out but it will be a community that is supportive within the confines of it. You can't live without rules but I am just interested in a safe place for folks who don't want to be harassed for having different interests can be supported. At this point I think the site will be mostly about mc, tf, peril, bondage, that sort of thing. Maybe it will evolve but it seems mostly the segment of the population here under attack. Thanks.
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abashful1's avatar
NP. Everything I have posted to DA would fit there nicely as would everything for White Owl, Ultra Woman, Curia, Amazon Arrow, and DevDuck, etc. Sounds great to me. I will admit that I do like things that are a lot spicier than what I post here, but that is what Erolair is for. ;-)
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
There will be spicier allowances granted just have to frame it so it doesn't get out of hand either in general but I do a lot of spicy work on other sites, myself with comics and the like. :)
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SirWriter's avatar
If those people don’t like the content of this website, why bother to join? Toxic SJW is toxic, and I miss the 2012 version of DA when things were much better.
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. The thing is despite them saying it is about the rules. It really about forcing their views and cloaking it that way. I know for a fact that Curia's stuff was updated by her to match up to rules that she may have not realized she was violating. I also know the Admin don't always look at things closely and that is what folks are counting on that are doing the report spam to chase her and others off. 

There really isn't a reason to be toxic, as they have the mature tag filter for a reason so folks like that don't need to see stuff they don't want, so they are in fact looking for trouble/problems in a trollish way ... to abuse others... and in so violating the rules. I've reported it to the admin who may or may not do something about it.
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SirWriter's avatar
They won’t do a thing about it. If the content you create is offensive toward the noisiest members of the community, those who would dedicate hours to pester them about taking your content down, they will bend over backwards for those fools because they have no backbone to say no to anyone who throws tantrums in writing.
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Most likely but hey :) 
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Distance-Reach's avatar
I regret to be the bearer of bad news but we (the reporting deviants) were around long before you miserable people were. The content of the website is determined by the rules and anyone who breaks the rules is going to get reported.

Speaking directly to creativeguy59, quit thinking so highly of yourself. If Curia was suspended then it means the deviantArt admins found she was breaking the rules. Mass reporting doesn't get things removed, if it did then all of them including Render, AmazonArrow, and Curia would have already been banned but guess what they're not banned which means you're wrong again. As for your cross swords crap, we don't care if you have a fetish. You want to fight the people who are opposed to fetish artwork? Go to the groups that specifically oppose them because they are not us. I hope you complete your new website so that people like you can leave deviantArt.

All you guys do is whimper and pretend to be a victim because someone called you out for your bullcrap. Grow a back bone you snowflakes!
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aptivaboy's avatar
It's always great when the Nationalist Socialists drop by, isn't it? Or, was that the NKVD? In the same, it's all the same - intolerance, moral superiority, and high handedness. 

And no, I highly doubt that you were here before the content creators were. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been any Deviant Art for you to look at.
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey Troll. None of your post is accurate but that's okay you kinda require the intelligence over slime mold to do that ;) Go from whence you came. I really don't care to be honest what you think or  your drivel which is what it is after, drivel, sanctimonious bottom scum, now go under your rock... have a nice day.
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SirWriter's avatar
You know what? This isn’t my fight. If SJW snowflakes overrun this place like zombies from the Walking Dead, I’ll just pack up and go somewhere else. I’m here to satisfy an itch, and I don’t care one way or another if this website goes down in flames. I’ll find another place with content I like.

So go ahead, really. Provoke other people who actually give a shit about this website to insult you back. This isn’t my fight and I don’t care one way or another. The only thing I’m disappointed in is losing a good content creator. It’s a signal that I should find somewhere else.
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Distance-Reach's avatar
I WISH YOU WOULD! We don't need you here, you guys are the most whiny self proclaimed victims I've ever met. learn to follow the rules and grow a pair.

Bye.
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aptivaboy's avatar
Agree! Its gotten that way on a number of boards I belong to, covering MANY different interests, form digital art to fine scale modeling to bicycling. I just don't understand the motivations behind the negativity.
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SirWriter's avatar
The mindset of “I’m right, and if you disagree with me then you’re obviously wrong and should be removed from the places I choose to go to” is the reason behind the negativity.
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Nina7777777's avatar
I can only shake my head about those ridiculous creatures running around and reporting harmless stuff and nice people. If this is the highlight of their day I can only feel sorry for them. Unfortunalety it seems they and double-moral find their way everywhere :( (Sad) .
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah it is kinda silly really. But that is part of Trolls they want to get an emotional response, to cause harm, etc... this isn't about rules it is about a childish need for attention and feeling superior to other people ... so they can try to make it look like they are all golden etc... but really its brass.
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WickedPrince's avatar
Yeah I've never liked their attitude about harassment - which is basically "if you don't like it, block them yourself." This would maybe be ok if we could block the frigging DAdmiNazi's too. I can't think of a single time when one of them has done anything beneficial for me in the eleven years I've been here, every time I've tried to contact them for help I've been blown off. And the very sad thing is, once you are on their radar as somebody who posts stuff THEY don't like, they schedule somebody to look over everything you post from then on, and it's entirely up to that persons WHIM if they feel it breaks some rule. Like I've said several times over the years, they should change the site name to MyLittlePonyArt because they are completely outlawing anything that would be considered "deviant" around here. It's a great site because of the immense number of artists who post here, but it's a horrific site because of the moronic Admins that go out of their way to convince good and interesting artists to leave.
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
In theory blocking doesn't really stop it. I have a lot of folks preemptively blocked from the groups involved... but this sort of thing doesn't stop the actual harassment that has occurred on this journal. That was a violation of the rules after all... but they seem to be embolden to only follow rules part of the time :)

The Admin are overworked , managing a site like this is frankly a pain in the ass, I have had to run sites before I understand the pain of trying to keep forums in line and a community etc... the diverseness of folks is amazing... however you will always have problem children. So I have some sympathy for adminly types.

However, they are also attacking a rather productive part of the da-verse that bring traffic here, or buy core, etc ... that is never good for business of any sort. Since the folks doing it have an easy way to avoid seeing stuff they don't like, and really its about what they don't like, over its just rule infringement... they are just trolls in the end.
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WickedPrince's avatar
That is part of my point, the administration seems to actively work to drive "artists" away from the site - and WE are why people come here. And I'm not just talking us really pervy types either, they've harassed major players in the field of photography until many photographers have simply left. Their TOS is laughable, there aren't any hard guides on what they will decide breaks it, because you can do as your friend did and do everything you can to be within the TOS and still be harassed by them. Their TOS pretty much allows them to declare almost anything to break it and we the artists and site-users have no real idea what their definitions are. In short the site is decidedly unfriendly to artists and artists are what makes this site worth being at, not the trolls that the admins seem to regularly cater to. And yeah, I can understand that running such a site could be problematic, but that's not an excuse for them to treat their customers like crap, especially the customers who bring in MORE customers.
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creativeguy59|Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree :)
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Keep us in the loop.
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