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I'll explain why I'm putting this kinda rant here: until two months ago, I had a computer that bugged every time I tried to install the locale, didn't unzip kana-encoded VBs properly, all that crap. I know a lot of other people who are passing through the same problem (:iconthefalleninfant: and :iconviolet-r: are two people I can think on the top of my head that complained about being unable to use kana banks due to software problems). I'll list the resons on why you should make a romaji VB and why kana VCV and romaji VCV won't make an ounce of difference.

1. More people are capable to use romaji than kana
Seriously. Not all computers run kana, but ALL computers run romaji, and as far as I'm concerned, ALL Japaese users can use romaji filenames on UTAU. Or else, they couldn't not only not use Ruko's English VB, but not be able to see most of the internet, because it's, guess what, written in roman letters.

2. If you don't know kana, you /will/ mess up
Before someone comes to me and says that you need to know Japanese to use UTAU... Not really. Most of UTAU is translated, and only really advanced features are in Japanese. Also, with the increase of English VBs, you can see why it's optional. What's necessary to know when you do a Japanese-oriented voicebank is the pronouncing.

3. You are not Japanese, nor live in Japan.
So, unless you live in China or Korea (since the CJK pack is usually in a grouped bunch), there's a chance that there are people whose computers won't be able to run kana filenames in your very own country.

4. "But most USTs are in kana!!1!11" No buts, I'll explain.
There's a function in the oto.ini (that you'll HAVE to learn how to configure or ask someone to do so for you, since oto.ini is very necessary to UTAU) called Alias. In that function, you'll put an alternate name for the note, just so UTAU can read both in the filenames and the specified names in the aliases. USTs in kana are usually easier for the UST maker to apply crossfade in the vowels, but romaji ones work just fine; you'd just have to put crossfading in each vowel instead of the entire UST, to avoid "na", "ni", "nu", "ne", "no" (and "wa", if you're like me and put "wo" in the crossfading options) to be crossfaded as well. BTW, speaking of aliases takes me to...

5. VCVs don't make an ounce of difference on how they're named, better name in romaji.
"But why are you saying that? Everyone told me that it must be in kana and that I must steal an oto from an UTAUloid with the same reclist!" WRONG. JUST WRONG. Even though people /might/ base their VCV otos out of other people's otos, if you steal them, you will mess up, for the simple reason that no two people pronounce things in exactly the same accent and length. Sometimes, the numerical values in overlap, preutterance and consonants are completely different from the original, just because it's impossible for you to pronounce precisely like the voicer from that UTAUloid whose oto you stole. It's better to program the VCV otos by yourself, or ask someone who can program it. And again we come to the alias. It's not important to name the fie in itself on the VCV, but to name the aliases. And taking in consideration you are going to do it for both kana and romaji, better just name the files in romaji, for a more ample use. Stealing is wrong in any way, shape or form. It also makes your VCVs sound slurry and weird.

Now that I finished my rant of sorts, I ask... Better, IMPLORE you to avoid naming your UTAUloid's sound files as kana as much as you can. A lot of people might want to use them and not be able to do so, you know. And yes, shift arrows count, too. Name with + or - as the suffix, if you want to make octave shifts.

Have a nice day.

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Lystrialle Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
Funnily enough, I'm not doing romaji aliases for Hana's VCV even though the files themselves are in romaji - the aliases will ALL be in hiragana. This is mainly due to laziness on my part.
However, it's insanely easy to make a romaji alias oto from Hana's oto - just run it through a converter. It's perfectly fine to do that with hiragana -> romaji (the other way around is the hard part).

But I've always made it a point for her CV to be in romaji with hiragana aliases.
Any other CV languages can't even use non-kana (as much as I'd LOVE to make a han'geul aliased Korean bank).
thefalleninfant Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2010
THANK YOU SO MUCH ALINE. Srsly, Kana won't make utauloids sounds any better. I still will make a rant showing images, maybe that can show ppl that I'm not kidding when I say I can't use kana and romanized oto won't work also. WHAT INTERESTS ME IS THE FILENAMES. ROMAJI. PLZ.THX.
LupinAKAFlashTH Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
The fact that I was the first person to realize that you don't need to have kana filenames for VCV to work is kind of sad. And by VCV I mean "the triphonizer". VCV relies on aliases, like you said, so obviously, the triphonizer has to as well.
I'm also very glad you made this rant. :3
yesi-chan Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2010
completely agree

However the arrow thing is so it works with the prefix map. To my knowledge unless you name them with arrows, if you make a prefix map it wont work. And just aliasing doesn't work either (yes I've tried that much) but for everything else romaji really is the way to go. Either way, the arrows should be repeated syllables anyway so you don't really need them :P
CorrectorAi Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2010
Well, most USTs I see out there already have the suffix added, without the need for prefixmap. And I remember Tony Lite having PrefixMap and it working without any problems in my old computer. His high set is marked as -h and his low set was marked as -l.
yesi-chan Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2010
yeah you can add those with the suffix broker thing but I never got it to work with a prefix map (tho I didn't make a prefix map) either way those arrows are more often than not useless xD
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