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Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 Fishbed - USAF Museum

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Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 Fishbed in the outdoor lineup at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 4/19/12.
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wbyrd's avatar
These aircraft look a little primitive compared to modern designs. But they are a very lethal aircraft unless they are up against much newer deigns.

They are a great example of Ruskin design, lighter and more maneuverable than the F-4...more importantly they had guns. something the original F-4 was sadly lacking.

I've never got a chance to do a walk around n a Soviet fighter I'd love to be able to poke my nose into the inner workings to get a good look at the Russian engineering.
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Yeah, the MiG-21 was a classic and not an aircraft to be underestimated. The F-4 had one thing in spades that the MiG-21 didn't however, and that was range. You start to study aircraft design and you really become impressed how US and Japanese got the performance out of the designs they did considering how much fuel they had to haul around everywhere they went.
wbyrd's avatar
Well The US generally builds BIG aircraft, with lots of horsepower. They have to sacrifice in numbers, and agility Most of the time since the aircraft are heavier than their Soviet counterparts, and are more expensive.
Fortunately the technology edge, and The skill and training of US pilots is usually enough to make up for the shortcomings of their aircraft.

The Japanese Pid for their agility and range by sacrificing strength and pilot protection. and It cost them when they came up against the brutal firepower of American fighters. Once the Right tactics and aircraft came on the scene.

Now the Soviets I think had a great mix between agility, lethality, and ease of manufacture. They could turn them out in larger numbers. it's fortunate the US seldom had to deal with Soviet aircraft flown by Experienced, and well trained pilots.

When American Pilots had to engage Elite Vietnamese Pilots in their Migs they were often in for a rough fight.
And In the middle east Mig-21s made life hard for Israeli pilots at times.
comradeloganov's avatar
The Soviet aircraft of the 50s and 60s were great and, I think, underrated by many, but I do think that most comparable US designs of the period were superior.
goldenliving777's avatar
Dig the red numbers, it really makes the photo pop!
comradeloganov's avatar
Thanks. It was originally full color, but I desaturated everything but the bort numbers. I think that really brought the whole thing together.
goldenliving777's avatar
OK, see I would have thought just the opposite, that you would have desaturated or grayscaled the photo and then added red to the numbers. Thanks for the reply and the info.







I bet yer a big Lee Marvin fan: Mr. Blond
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Yeah, here's the original: [link]
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comradeloganov's avatar
No problem. As for Lee Marvin, yeah, I'm a big fan. Not everything he was in was great, but he was great in most of what he was in.
goldenliving777's avatar
I'm a Lee Marvin fan myself. Lee Marvin, Robert Mitchum, Steve Mqueen. The big difference between those guys and action stars of today is they didn't just play guys who could beat your ass, they really could beat your ass! They had all done their time in the military, hell, Lee Marvin got shot in the ass on Tarawa, Steve Mqueen was good enough he could have gone pro riding dirt bikes and Mitchum got busted for weed at an airport in the 50's LOL! Those guys didn't worry about their tan or their hair they worried if there was any whisky left or if they were outta smokes.
comradeloganov's avatar
Very true. Lee Marvin in particular was known for having a "hollow leg". He makes Dirty Dozen because he looks 100% comfortable with that Grease gun throughout the movie. If you can find the episode of Combat! with him, I encourage you to watch it. You can tell he knows what he's doing moreso than anyone else on screen and that the other cast members were just in awe of him. Those were all neat guys. Very much "man's men".
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After all these years it is still a beautiful plane and a formidable fighter.
comradeloganov's avatar
Agreed. Glad you like the picture. Check out some of the others in the album if you get the chance.
pretty impressive pics you have there.
Ronin201's avatar
One of the USSR's most famous fighters. It gave the US and Isreali both a helluva time!
comradeloganov's avatar
Easily one of the most successful fighters of the Cold War. Still going strong well over 50 years later.
Ronin201's avatar
yeah, nice job with capturing its shape!
comradeloganov's avatar
Thanks. I used to dislike the early variants, much preferring the -PF and later, but the early -Fs have grown on me as I get older and I think this photo shows off its sleek lines quite well.
Ronin201's avatar
yeah, the first variants didn't even have cannon I've read
comradeloganov's avatar
I was speaking from a purely aesthetic perspective. The MiG-21 has always been short-legged, but otherwise a good fighter. Sort of like the Cold War's Bf 109 in that regard.
PsykoHilly's avatar
Excellent shot ... and an awesome avatar!
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Thanks, psyko! I love Soviet aircraft and Lee Marvin was great in the Dirty Dozen. I especially love his expression there.
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