Zheyno's avatar

There’s nothing wrong with killing off fictional characters, video games wouldn’t be fun if you’re restricted like that.

drivanmoffitt's avatar

I'm not saying that but again, this book is written with specific politics in mind, and with real-life groups of people in mind too, this book and the writer of this book, advocates the murder, the genocide, of real-life people, sure he exaggerated them to all hell and back but that's the point, a lot of white supremacists tend to characterize and dehumanize people they don't like, and this writer is a white supremacist, not just a white supremacist but an extreme white supremacist at that, given he clearly states that the only way his supposed 'perfect' society can be created is the complete and total genocide of most of humanity... all real-life groups of people, IE not fictional at all.

Zheyno's avatar

So if the terms changed, you would accept it? But, it wasn’t to spark controversy, it would be forgotten like most novels. To the author’s credit, perhaps making the story controversial was to drive attention, and leave a mark on history.

drivanmoffitt's avatar

I'm not suggesting that at all, it would still be horrible either way, regardless of rather or not they're real groups. As for the book, the writer clearly wanted people to read it, and the few who have tried to carry out some the things it describe, the Oklahoma city bombing is one such example.

Zheyno's avatar

I doubt Oklahoma City Bombing had any to do with the book and more out of revenge for the Waco Massacre. And plus this line you’re drawing includes stories such as “V for Vendetta”

drivanmoffitt's avatar

No, I mention because Timothy McVeigh was inspired by it and the book described an event very similar to what happened in the real world...


"As he drove toward the Murrah Federal Building in the Ryder truck, McVeigh carried with him an envelope containing pages from The Turner Diaries – a fictional account of white supremacists who ignite a revolution by blowing up the FBI headquarters at 9:15 one morning using a truck bomb." - from Wikipedia article on the event. Very curious why McVeigh would take pages of the book with him when he did his attack.

Zheyno's avatar

It might have been Feds planting evidence trying to deter attention away from Waco. These are the same people who have, time and time again played dirty to advance an neoliberal capitalist agenda.

Besides McVeigh's anger for the government came from how he was treated in the military and after, not from overtly racial reasons.

drivanmoffitt's avatar

Sure they did, if that's the case then explain the other Neo-Nazis (one of which being the Order, a real-life Neo-Nazi group who murdered a Jewish radio host) who used the book as an influence, face it, its' a Neo-Nazi "book" (a very pisspoor book at that) that has sense inspired, and the FBI was caught off guard by this attack but the nature of it did remind them of the book in question.

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