Homophobes:
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Published: May 27, 2012


I will mock them openly.

Especially since I notice that 99% of them fail to grasp even elementary levels of Grammar and spelling- which only reinforces my belief that homophobes are such because they are simply stupid.

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saiyanprincesscat's avatar
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Hmm, I live in the southern US, where most people do not tolerate homosexuality because the Bible says it is a sin. I myself am a Christian, but I think gay marriage should be allowed in my country (and all countries lol). If someone wants to be a homo (and with a Christian view: if someone wants to sin in such a way), then that's his or her decision, not mine or anyone else's. A gay person is the same as a heterosexual...and there's supposed to be a separation between church & government, right? So forget the South or "homophobes" in general. The WORLD needs to pick it up a notch and become more modern by letting everyone be equal: homosexuals, women, different races, etc.

I must also comment that I restrain myself from using the word "homophobe" because that carries a bad connotation. People can't help how they were raised. For instance, down here, from day one you're most likely going to be told that liberals are evil. If you hear that every day, by the time you're an adult, yeah, you're probably going to be so brainwashed that you actually believe that. It's just what happens in society. You'll grow up the way it wants you to grow up, and it's a bit rare for someone to differentiate himself or herself from a background. So yeah..."homophobes" really can't help it most of the time. They're not stupid...they're just not as lucky as people who were brought up in a more liberal environment.
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I actually live in the South as well- Alabama, to be exact- so I know that it is a religious thing, but I LOATHE the fact that people try to hide behind their religion to press hate and keep human rights from other people.

As you have said, Christians can- and some do!- think everyone has the right to have the same basic human rights as anyone else. However,the majority of Christians down here say "I am for equal rights, but homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt children. Because my religion says it wrong, I am not a hateful person."

That's bullshit. Jesus preached that God loves all because he made them in his image. If God truly didn't love everyone for what they were, homosexuals wouldn't exist. (I'd go into a rant about "If God were also the only God and true power," but I don't want to open a can of worms with that one.)

I can never take a religious person seriously when they hide behind their religion, then say they're being oppressed because a group they don't like is wanting equal rights.

You are not being oppressed if someone is asking for the same rights as you, and you want to deny them. That's YOU being oppressive and cruel. (you being general, not specific.)
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Bama, cool. I'm your neighbor in MS. :)

Yeah, I hate how people hide behind religion. And it doesn't even work--following the Christian views, God is the one who condemns and is sovereign, not man. But it's like...a big old cycle. That's how they're brought up. Le sigh. Total brainwashing technique from birth. And since we're both ME fans here, why don't we call it indoctrination? :lol: Not the fault of the religion, but of the region and years upon years of living in a place that forces synthesized beliefs and traditions.

Even with that thought in mind, I'm not sure how to interact with the "indoctrinated" people (lol, my family comes to mind). I generally just accept they'll never change their views. Maybe the younger ones, but definitely not the older ones. Some can be really smart, but there's that stubborn pride about sticking with your beliefs that's in many ways similar to national pride. And that's very hard to break.

At the end of the day, I'm just thankful I'm as open-minded as I am now and hope in the future to teach little saiyanprincesscats to be accepting of all things. I have faith in future generations. Hell, maybe we'll come across the Citadel where we'll meet lotsa futuristic aliens like the asari and Earth will become more liberal, too!
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hahahaha @homophobes on Twitter
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I follow them =3 and troll the people they retweet- usually about their Grammar and spelling.
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Homophobes, be they religious or not, tend to spend an awful lot of time obsessing over what two men or two women get up to in the privacy of their own bedrooms :-) Dare I say an unhealthy amount of time, thinking about the mechanics of it all.

Personally I just do not get the mindset that is so threatened by the thought of others having equal rights in all things. I suspect that at the heart of it, you would find such people hold equally repugnant views regarding racial equality as well, even if that is something they wouldn't openly admit. You need only look back a decade or two at apartheid and racial segregation where it was 'okay' to openly wield such opinions in public. Hopefully in another decade or two we'll be in the same place regarding sexuality.
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The ancient Egyptians and Greeks had no problem with homosexuality- in fact, Greeks considered homosexual love the most unselfish and purest of love, because there was no thought for procreation; no desire for male heirs to raise one's standing- it was love based on two souls loving each other outside of biological instincts.

If Christians were really worried about protecting "The Sanctity of Marriage," they'd band divorce- Spears, the Kardashians, and even Gingrich, one of the most outspoke adversaries of gay rights, have long since forsaken the holy sanctity of marriage.

Hypocrites, the lot of em
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Aye, it is the burning hypocrisy that is probably the single worst aspect of the whole thing. They need to get their OWN houses in order before they have the right to criticise others.

Been burned too many times by so-called 'moderates' of various faiths (not just Christians, but they tend to be the most vocal in various Westernized countries)... so I'll just echo some fictitious Roman emperor and say:

More lions, less Christians!
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This was something I sent my buddy when they passed that Marriage Amendment - [link]

Coincides with them being stupid.
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That is glorious evidence. Thank you!
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yw ^_^
Palinor's avatar
There's a high majority of people who are homophobic mainly because their parents and mentors pounded it into their heads that it's an abomination. The largest source of that is religious dogma that teaches how a happy family needs to be, and that all other instances aren't right. It's a shame that most people can't really understand that the use of the bible in such cases was because the entirety of the religion is a sham and used to make a selected group of people be the ones in true power.

You can gain power by force, but that makes a lot of enemies for you. However if you gain power by making the masses feel like they're privy to some secret of the universe and that everyone else is wrong, you have a loyal following. So you give them 'answers' about how everything came to be, make those who follow it special but also put in a fear factor that those who disobey receive punishment from someone way more powerful (but most importantly not the religious leader so he never has to use brute force and tarnish his reputation among people before having true power). From there you can regulate the fuck out of society by making your immortal super being that loves the people lay down some rules.

One of the best ways to regulate people is to ensure that you can track lineages and not have to work hard in the least to divide up a person's belongings once they die. How do you do that? Make sex highly watched by the god in question; marriage is key and going outside of the marriage is grounds for death. If you have sex for anything besides procreation, or in that strict marriage setting, then you're doing wrong.

This isn't because it's genuinely bad, but rather because if you allow any people to have sex for fun without consequences you then have people able to think "Hey, we're not doing evil, we're enjoying life as we should" and then they start to have heterosexual intercourse for fun. That allows the possibility of unclear family lines, making it harder to regulate the people.

So rather than making the work of religious authorities harder, they just say, "Hey man, it's not me saying y'all can't have sex. It's the big man up there, so, like, don't hate me but you can't be gay because that will lead to non-gay people having sex for fu- I MEAN, it's a sin" and so forth. Much of the bible is actually more along the lines of making the populace easier to control, follow, and makes it where there's a lower likelihood of sickness and cleaning up to be done.

There's a lot of control over clothing, food, and other such things for all of those ends, it makes everything easier for a community to just submit and follow all those rules than to have to death with even low percentages of illness or large messes that could be caused by them going outside those rules. That, and it decreases the amount of goods a community is required to trade for in instances of clothing where they say that clothes need to be of one fabric. That's going off on a tangent, but it helps to demonstrate that the stuff written in the bible is less about sin and more about keeping people under thumb.


For non-religious folk, it's more closely related to the stigmas related to homosexual activities that drive them off. They tend to think of flamboyantly obnoxious men who will try to rape them, or horrifyingly butch women that will do the same to other women. It's been pounded into them by their families or friends who hold that same view, so even the slightest hint of a homosexual thing causes all this stuff to show up in their minds and it would be disgusting to them. I'm not saying religious folks don't hold these stigmas, it's just that they have the religion stacked on top so even those who aren't disgusted wholeheartedly can't quite shake their homophobia because they're empowered by a 'deity's' rules that he's been given.

In the end, a majority of them deserve to be mocked but some are just so poorly educated. They've been told what to think in life and they're stuck there, it would take a lot of work to show them how to think and see they've been manipulated into the facsimile of a person rather than an actual person.
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I always love seeing your comments. Thank you for the well thought out, eloquent and insightful reply. I admit, my rant was mainly written out of anger, but this is a very well put point.
Palinor's avatar
Thank you for the compliment, I'm happy to hear that you enjoy my comments. This is a subject that I've stumbled onto so many times that I just can't find myself too riled up any more. From the boredom of it all I have been able to understand what would have been blinded before, so it all makes more sense to me. I haven't the foggiest of clues how to help people move out of the ignorant mindsets, but I find myself less desirous to blame them for being dicks. As life progresses, there are more and more people who haven't been taught to be this way so solidly, they see the actual truths of the world while developing and it counteracts some of the teachings that would be passed on to them.

Doesn't mean that it will happen quickly, or that people should just wait it out, but it's something that will happen unless something huge comes in and swings it the other way. It's difficult, slow, and has a lot of fighting to be done on the way, but so long as there's continued progress and not regression, this will be an issue of the past. Homosexuals will be able to live openly like heterosexuals, and nobody is going to be calling one sexuality preference a bunch of pedophiles and whatnot. There won't be scandals about who is gay or not, and eventually we'll start making sense again.

Until sapient aliens come along, then we'll have debates on that form of interspecies love at some point.
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Ahaha sadly, I doubt the rights of interspecies relationships between humans and aliens will happen in our lifetime. If it did, I'd be one of the activists fighting to marry my alien lover XDD

But yeah, all we can do is keep fighting, keep pressing. Show that we can't be silenced. Progress is sometimes a slow, painful process, but it makes achieving it all the sweeter.
Palinor's avatar
Very true, and while I'd prefer to keep with my human woman I'd be giving my voice to the rights of humans to marry their choice in a properly sapient lover. My opinion is that if the participants are able to give complete and proper consent, then let them go. Children can't meet that standard, neither can pets. If they ever become able to, then I would allow them to in such rare cases or by that standard if it's a fully so situation.

I'd allow polygamy if all participants were happily on board. If one person isn't, then it doesn't happen. The polygamists and lawmakers would need to work together to create a functioning system to properly cover any potentiality of parental rights and marriage rights, as that would be a difficult task, but if they were to manage it then I'd say "Not my bag, but let them have it."
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Exactly! If all parties are content, able to give consent, and can manage their situation and relationship as mature adults, then it should be no business of anyone but the involved parties. I don't see how this is such a difficult concept!

I personally am not on board with polygamy- I'm too territorial and can't share XD- but I don't think it's bad! I have friends who are poly and are very happy together, and I'm happy for their happiness. Live and let live isn't hard. It really isn't. :shrug:
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Yep, let them have their fun so long as everyone they have it with agrees to it. I'll be over here having my fun, which means to me I'm doing it with one person. A lot of people seem to get it into their heads that if we allow a type of fun then everyone has to do it and that's just so wrong, people will still like what they like even if they're allowed to do other stuff. Take me for example, I like coffee flavored icecream because it's what I like, I'm allowed to have pistachio ice cream but I don't like that simply because it's not my taste. Same goes for sex. Well, I wouldn't have sex with coffee or pistachio flavored icecream, but you get my point.
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I dunno. I might have sex IN pistachio flavored pudding, but...

j/k. I do love that stuff. XDD

I guess it just goes back to mob/herd mentality. Humans have an inane amount of fear that exposure will make them act as others do. =/
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I agree. Or at least un-/misinformed. Because to me, romance is about compatible (self-defined) personalities, not rigid (societally-defined) genders. Also it's just frustrating how many people seem to think that others' lives are their business. -_-;;
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Also it's just frustrating how many people seem to think that others' lives are their business

THIS EXACTLY.
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:heart:
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:heart:!
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100% agree. People like that need to GTFO my planet. >:c
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