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The idea of this game is based on an old 2D jump'n'run game called Lost Vikings for SNES and PC. In the first part you had 3 vikings, one could jump, one could fight, one had a shield and you had to get all of the vikings to the end of a level by utilising all of their skills. It also had extremely funny dialogue at the beginning and end of each level.
In the 2nd game two characters were added with additional skills so you had 5 characters. You never had more than 3 at the same time though. Through teleporting around and stuff you always had 3 different characters in a level. Mixing around characters like this gives a lot of possibility for interesting level designs.

The game sometimes required a lot of thinking and a LOT of patience to complete because it's partly insanely hard.. but it's so much fun, too.

While playing it again I suddenly wondered what it would be like to have a homestuck game similar to this?.. and that's what started this thing here..

Story + Game Concept

Characters: John, Dave, Rose, (Jade), Karkat, Jake, Dirk, Roxy, Jane and Vriska which would be 9 playable characters. (Jade probably won't be playable that's why is in brackets. But she is still part of the homestuck characters in the game though I wrote her down)

AU (they probably don't have that much technology on their homeplanet, not really decided). In every stage you play 3 people or less. Characters will be mixed around a lot. Might even be stages with only 1 character later.

The beta kids live in a village, the alpha in another. Dave and Dirk are brothers so they know each other but other than that the alpha kids don't know the beta kids.

-will be johnxkarkat but they don't know each other first

-jakexdirk is of course also a thing here. They know each other since childhood already but they didn't tell their feelings for each other so far.

John, Dave, Jade and Rose live together in a little forest village. Then a spaceship arrives and kidnaps jade and flies further away (but is still on earth).
The spaceship belongs to jack noir and his boss Lord English (but Lord English doesn't show up till end boss fight so you don't really know he exists until later). They kidnap humans to do experiments on them to test if they would be a good race to enslave and if they should conquer the planet or just destroy it because it's useless to them.

So of course Dave, John and Rose go to rescue Jade. So the first stage (consisting of a few substages) is getting to the ship in a forest world. They don't have any special powers yet and are not god tiers but each kid has something that only he or she can do.

Spaceship stage

Then they enter the spaceship and you finish one substage of the spaceship stage. In the end you step on a teleporter and end up with john and rose only. Dave went missing. They worry about him but go on. Then they find karkat imprisoned in a cell but you only see his eyes because it's dark there. (some of the trolls (might be only karkat and vriska) got caught by jack noir and are imprisoned on the ship because they were interesting individuals. But on the whole they deemed trolls too aggressive to really control so they destroyed their planet. Alternia doesn't exist anymore which karkat doesn't know yet).
Karkat is pissed off as always and argues with rose and john.

K: Now get me out of here.
J: Say please~~
K: What the fuck? Why should I beg for help from a stupid fucking alien wiggler? I'm superior over your dumb race and I command you to get me out!
J: Hm then no. *walks away*
K: Hey fuck wait! You are not going to leave me here? HEYYYY!!!
*rose just followed john slightly confused*
*out of Karkat's hearing range*
J: Hm so any idea how to get him out?
R: Oh, I had been wondering already if you would really abandon him like that. It would not be something that John Egbert usually does.
J: Haha no of course not, but it's kinda fun to prank him! His cursing is really creative and funny!
R: While I do not think that pranking an angry imprisoned alien like that was a smart idea I'm glad we are now trying to help him.
J: So let's search for something to get the cage open!
R: Ok.
Through some switch puzzles you'll free karkat and see him for the first time.
John makes some comments about his cute candy corn horns or something.
After that you have to get his sickles from somewhere else in the stage. Then he can climb walls with them. You end the substage with another teleporter.

What also happens in one of the spaceship sublevels:
Jake got also kidnapped and Dirk, Jane and Roxy went to save him. Dave and Dirk meet up in the stage where they find and free jake.

The following is really sketchy so far I'm just writing down ideas:


About God Tiering

God Tiering is a thing here. Each kid has their own planet and quest bed (but you won't play all of the planets and not everyone will go god tier). And what I have thought out so far is this:
maybe the planets get 'generated' based on the dna of the person who enters special teleporters. Creating a planet just for them which serves the purpose of awakening hidden powers. And having a quest bed for that specific person. If you die/are dead on that quest bed you'll get turned god tier and gain access to a lot more skills. But since the land in general is 'designed' to awaken hidden skills, those can also be triggered without god tiering. Just haven't thought out as to how this will work already.
I also don't know yet why this whole stuff exists. Have to think about reasons more.

Lands and God Tiers

LoWaS
n the beginning John is always the one who enters the teleporters first. So you end up on John's planet (Land of Wind and Shade). John dies in a way that he accidently falls on his quest bed, thus becoming god tier. You need his powers to defeat the boss of the stage (haven't thought about those minor bosses of the kid's lands yet). They have no idea what just happened there but John is having fun with his new wind powers. Vriska (who they had rescued too at some point of the first spaceship stage) had dropped some hints in some of the LoWaS substages and told john that she'd help him gain more powers but didn't exactly tell what it involved. In the final LoWaS substage she isn't with them so she can't explain anything.

LoPaH
The next land will be Karkat's Land of Pulse and Haze.
Vriska explains more about God Tiering now.
Of course Karkat wants to become god tier so he kinda tries forcing john to kill him by putting a knife in his hand and tell him to stab him. John is like „huh no??" though.
karkat just takes john's hand though and pushes the knife in himself leaving john pretty wtf and stunned. they aren't THAT close yet but he is .. still shocked and can't really process what happened.
But karkat revives soon anyway (and gets wings~) and john hugs him and is glad he's alive. (probably first real johnkat moment in this). Again bossfight with karkat's new powers. (whatever exactly they will be like)

LoHaC
Next is  LoHaC (Land of Heat and Clockwork)
When they got to dave's quest bed dave asks john to kill him and john is like WTF NO! I just accidently killed karkat, no way am I going to do anything like that again!! and no one else wants to do it either and dave doesn't want to do it himself.
And while they are arguing they get attacked by something (bossfight of the stage) and something happens that dave still awakens his powers (which I don't know exactly yet). You need his powers to beat the boss.

LoCaH
After that it's LoCaH (Land of Crypts and Helium) which is Jane's land. Roxy somehow tricks the system though to get her to god tier without really dying. Not fully thought out yet but I thought it would be funny because Dave will be pissed that Roxy didn't get him to god tier like that too.

Stuff about Jake

Jake will turn evil later because of the experiments they did on him. He has an implanted chip controlling him or something which doesn't have effect on him at first but becomes stronger to certain happenings. He starts to act slightly different, maybe less excited or something and then in one part he suddenly tricks them and imprisons them and states that Lord English is his master. Evil Jake will be one of the final bosses.

Dirk is the first to notice jake slowly acting differently. He asks him if he is alright but Jake has no idea what's wrong with himself. He does say things like "I feel off somehow.." and that he feels strange and has severe headaches sometimes.

About Jake's boss stage (Spaceship level)

The playable characters will be Dirk and Dave. They don't want to kill him but have to fight against him because they end up not having any choice. They just want to stop him somehow but things happen that he dies. And Dirk will have a lot of fault concerning this. In which way exactly I don't know yet. If he really kills him directly or if he accidently causes something to kill him. Dirk will hugely blame himself and is completely depressed about this. And tells Dave something like:
Dirk: "..I never told him how much he meant to me... Now he is dead and it's my fault."
Then Dave has the idea to try getting Jake to god tier to revive him and they try to do so. Side note to this: Dirk will totally have no idea about the whole god tiering stuff going on. He never saw it happen and no one really mentioned it to him so he is clueless about it.

Land of ??? (Jake's land)

In the next level you play as Dirk, Dave and deadJake (who is crossed out). Dirk somehow carries Jake and you have to get his body to the end of the level which is Jake's planet and has his quest bed in the end. Dirk is really unsure if the plan works and of course he is really down this whole level. This stage probably won't have any substages. They manage to get Jake to god tier of course. There will be some JakexDirk fluff.

Other random stuff

while jade is probably not a playable character in this she is the one who rescues everyone in the very end through her space powers bringing all of them back home (however she will gain them).

I mainly put vriska into this for some John and Vriska interaction and friendship and Karkat being jealous of her because john gets along with her so well. Since John doesn't know Karkat in the beginning they develop feelings for each other over the course of this whole adventure always helping each other out.
Another reason for putting in Vriska is because I thought she would be a good character for having god tier knowledge to tell the others.

Final bosses: jake->jack noir->Lord E.

If you replay a stage countless times the characters start to talk about the player being stupid and wanting to torture them or some similar things. Or they get bored of the stage. (it's like that in the original lost vikings games too which was always sooo funny. So this has to be a thing here.XD )

peanut item as a 'healing item'
when jake or john eats it = instant death.

another item: apple juice. John teases dave the first time you collect this item. (nothing bad happens when you give it to dave though)


Stages Overview

1. forest
2. spaceship
3. LoWas -> john godtier
4. LoPaH -> karkat godtier
5. LoHaC -> dave awakens powers
6. LoCaH -> jane godtier
7. spaceship -> boss: jake
8. Lo??? (jake's) -> jake godtier
9. spaceship 2 sublevels: jack noir, Lord E bossfights

Character Overview + Skills

-characters: John, Dave, Rose, (Jade), Karkat, Jake, Dirk, Roxy, Jane and Vriska which would be 9 playable characters.

In general characters who can 'fly' can't fly for an unlimited timespan.

List of skills is totally incomplete and some I haven't really thought about at all yet..

BETA

John

-can jump
-smoke pellets: confuse enemies, make lasers visible
godtier
-john can fly to high places
-using wind to activate things
-blowing enemies away?


Dave

-can't jump
-fight with sword
-throws records (can't throw that far, they fall downwards after a while)-> can cut ropes, can hurt enemies and activate switches.

after LoHaC
-freeze movement of enemies, machines for a certain timespan


Rose

-can't jump
-scarf as shield
-scarf as glider

ALPHA

Jake

-gun =long distance weapon -> can't cut ropes, can hurt enemies and activate switches, bullets fly in a straight line, no dropping down
-can jump maybe?
godtier
-fly
-some kind of hope powers, no idea yet


Dirk

-can't jump
-short distance sword but longer
-shield = rotating sword


Roxy

-can't jump
-something concerning her computer skills

Jane
-can't jump
godtier

TROLLS

Karkat
-jumps
-can climb walls by using his sickles
-can attack with his sickles
godtier
-flies
-blood control? In which way?

Vriska (is already godtier)
-luck for avoiding traps
-can fly
-mind controlling powers? in which way?
Homestuck - Game concept thing - 2D Jump'n'Run

Ok dA why don't you have a 'concepts' category for literature<.< *randomly threw it somewhere*

Ok I have no idea how this happened but this idea just wouldn't leave my mind so I began writing everything down.

It's a game concept which is far from finished but I really love it already and thought I'd share. No idea if people are interested in reading stuff like this though.. we'll see.

I'd love to start working on coding and art for this but am sooo busy right now and should do other things... But I haven't coded in a while, I really miss it <.< It would be a flash game then.
The style would be like those sprites I already did yesterday:


Hope some of you like : D And if you have suggestions, ideas or anything I'd love to hear them! Because this concept is still in a very alphaish stage..xDD
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witchySpider Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016
it sounds awesome omg it will 8e super awesomeeeeeeeeWIZARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2017
Thank you~
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KARKITTY3 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2015
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Grim-Virus Featured By Owner May 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sure this is going to 8e awesome!!!!!!!!
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner May 30, 2014
aww thank you! It will be a while till I work on it again but I am still very excited for this~ Sooo much work gone into concept already, way more than you see here right now.XD
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TheLegendofSimstuck Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
You have sooo much work, but I'm sure it will be amazing!!
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
aww thank you! yes definitely.XD I'm planning to release each level as a single deviation so I don't need to have the full thing done before I upload. Which is helpful for my general motivationXD I've begun to work on stuff if you like to see here is my current prototype: fav.me/d6lybqo
I'm also hoping that maybe I'll get more help later on so it gets a bit easier for me. Would be cool. ^_^
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TheLegendofSimstuck Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
That's really good so far! Can't wait to play!
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Jesus shit this sounds amazing and sad and great and just full of everything. Good luck to you on your quest!
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
aw thank you so much! There is a lot more plot done compared to this version and I really love this project : D
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Not-Princess-Luna101 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
and then john and karkat are married, the end XD
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2013
haha perfect ending.xD
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Sonatic9000 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013
do you have this game made? if so, i would love a link so i could play ^^
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013
No it's a really big project which I'm sometimes working on. Some of the concept stuff changed, some stayed the same. I'm really far with the concept and story and dialogue things at the moment and started to work a little bit on coding.
[link] <- Here is a full linklist which always gets updated when I have something new. In the HTML5/flash section there is a tiny bit of playable stuff I made which you can try. There is also stuff like character sprites and comic pages I did based on the plot in case you'd like to look at those things : D
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Sonatic9000 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
thank you so much ^^
i hope you have fun!
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
no problem!
And yes absolutely~ I love this so so much and I'm proud of it : D
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CheekyPikachu Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
This sounds great :3
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2012
thank you!~ I just reread this version yesterday and saw how much this changed already.xD well the basic plot is almost the same but some things changed and are much more detailed now.
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CheekyPikachu Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
Ah well its still really good and Im sure the changes are awesome ^^
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Uzuharu-Ninja Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2012
Wow! This sounds extremely interesting!

Hmm...

Do you new someone to write lines/dialouge?

And are you voicing, or is it just dialouge?

( Probably better to stick to the written dialouge. )
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2012
thank you! The current plot file is already much biggerxD

And yes I do have someone who helps me write. ama (~AnnoyinglyAnalytical) partly writes complete scenes on her own and partly writes based on what I write or tell her. The overall plot is pretty layed out already so we are slowly going over to work from level 1.1-9.5 in sequence.

In case you like to be spoilered I can give you the level overview file + skill list. I'm really proud of it! And not sure if you have seen but I have a folder for game related stuff here: [link]
The comic things dialogue is kinda a mix between mine and ama's writing.

I am going to do voice acting and going to prepare the code in a way so that that will be possible. But I will post a level first before I voice act anything XD and then I'll see if I can find a dave and rose and jade for the first stage. I'm going to voice john and jake. :icontien13: is going to be karkat.
And in case people don't want to have voice i'm going to have an option which toggles that. probably.
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Uzuharu-Ninja Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2012
Oh my! I do enjoy spoilers. They make me that much more excited for the game! ^^;

I'll check that folder right after this comment.

And oh! I could try my hand at Jade and/or Rose, but I'm not sure how good I would be. Haha! ^^;
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
[link] <-there you are : D Hope you like!
oh cool^^ it will still be a loong time until I start auditions for the characters so if you still want to by then maybe you'd like to take part ^^ ?
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Uzuharu-Ninja Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
Ooooohhhh. I liiiiiike. <3

And sounds like a plan to me! ^o^
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gracookie Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Not sure if anyone said anything about this but I had the weirdest idea of Jake having got Lord E. DNA (or something) implanted inside him to cause the evil side. :L
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thanks for the idea, I actually don't think it's that weird. It's cool : D But it doesn't fit with everything I have planned (because my current concept file is heavily expanded). The chips are tailored to the dna of a person which is important in that way that it stops working when the dna changes. And since jake gets god tiered his dna mutates (since god tiers have mutated dna here) so he is himself again even though he still has the chip. Another thing will be that jade gets a chip implanted too but that chip is already broken because of something john accidently did in a pretty earls level.
LE will be Doc Scratch actually who is a species who can transform himself at will. So he can transform into LE and back.
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gracookie Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2012  Student General Artist
Ah I see. That makes sense, so eh. XD
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Niloa Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012
Wow, sounds like a great game! Really well thought out! I'm fine with the shipping, even though I am heavily opposed to johnxkarkat. I hope this becomes a thing!
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012
Thank you!
Well JohnxKarkat is my fav pairing so there is no way around it in anything I do..XD What is also a pairing in this is RoxyxJane, no idea if you are also ok with that..xD
I really hope it beomes a thing too. Almost done with the sketches of the playable characters + thinking about their skills more. And I have a basic overview of all of the levels and who is in each. And now that it's pretty obvious that the pixeel style wins I am going to work on more coding soonish. I really want to upload a tiny thing for you to play around with xD
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Niloa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012
Ohh that would be fun! And I have nothing against cotton candy shipping. I don't care much, I just hope you get to make this :D
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serenavampire1999 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Student Artist
chibi, a tip: knight of blood does NOT mean you can control blood.
what they do is calm down the enemy.
so instead of control blood he can like calm the enemy down for a while. like keep them from attacking and such. you can check it out here [link]
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Niloa Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012
Pssst I know you
Also it is not confirmed, unless I am missing something here?? The theory makes sense, though.
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serenavampire1999 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012  Student Artist
oh hey, how'd u get here
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Niloa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012
It's called watching someone and reading the comments on their art.
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serenavampire1999 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012  Student Artist
lol sorry XD
just didnt expect to see u here since u hate johnkat so much
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Niloa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012
Ah nah, I just dislike it. I am interested in the game and find it a great idea! I don't truly "hate" any ships. They're only fictional characters!
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serenavampire1999 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012  Student Artist
*shrug*
i guess i just didnt expect to see you here
lol
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Niloa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012
Anything can happen
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012
This is my AU. xD And you have no idea how much plot is based on the fact that karkat can control blood. well maybe not that much but some important things...hehe
Also you might have noticed hope god tiers probably don't have hope wings either.xD and still Jake has them.

I'll read the thing you linked later. have to leave now<.< As much as I remember it was only a 'possibility' that that's the powers of the knight of blood and there are no real facts.
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serenavampire1999 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Student Artist
true.
i just wanted to let u know.
i also hope i didnt come off as rude, assertive, or know-it-all. i was just letting you know.
also hero of hope god teirs can have wings (ie. doomed god teir eridan)
its just humans who cant. but it IS your AU and if u want to give him wings its all up to u.
again im not trying to be sarcasic or rude. just letting u know for future referance
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012
yes sorry if I came off rude or anything. I hope I didn't..^_^;;
Oh wait why are you saying the same thing as me ;A; *has only started to read that comment of yours* Everything is fine, I'm not angry or anything and I hope you are not annoyed either.
I was referring to human god tiers of course with the wings comment.
God tiers and the lands of 'etc' work different in this, I don't know if you read my plot XD There is a lot of god tiering and not god tiering but still getting powers going on..XD And the drama omg..xD I'm so evil hehe.XD
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serenavampire1999 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012  Student Artist
nah im not annoyed

hehehe everyone loves drama. i know i do
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012
that's good : D
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KK-sis Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow. That sounds like an insanely cool game... I'm going to eagerly await anything you do with this. :D
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
aw thank you! I've improved the concept more now and planned out who will be in every level. And at the moment it seems like there will be 41 levels.. what am I doing to myself..xD
As you have seen I've already posted a few things about this : D soo I'm working on it!~
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KK-sis Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've seen, yes~ That sounds so cool!!
You must be crazy to do this to yourself... but it's awesome!
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Eupo Featured By Owner May 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is so cool! I would love to see this entire game actually finished, or even little bits of it!! :la:
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ChibiEdo Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
aw thank you! working on it but no promise. It's a LOT of work. Right now I have 41 stages planned.. Yesterday I made a more complete list of their skills (almost done but I still need something for roxy and maybe jane to be content) and planned out who is in every stage and a bit what happens in most stages.. So I'll do some coding and sprite drawing next.. if I have time. XD
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Eupo Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh man.... Good luck buddy! XD
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Falconiaes-iNSaNiTY Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
AWESOME 8D can't wait for this. also, why not have john be able to blow enemies into each other? like, "WHOOSH, I BLEW YOU INTO YOUR BUDDIE THAR BEHIND YOU." xD this seems like it's going to be an epic game
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