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The Great Tourney at Harrenhal

The Tourney at Harrenhal as I see it.
WARNINGS : SPOILERS! and also theories that have not been confirmed in the book as of yet.

[edit] I checked and there is no mention of Cat, Lysa and Littlefinger at the Tourney. But whatever x) Cat was already betrothed to Brandon anyway.

The love affairs between Rhaegar Targaryen, Elia Martell, Jon Connington, Jaime and Cersei Lannister, Lyanna, Brandon and Ned Stark, Cat and Lysa Tully, Petyr Baelish, Ashara Dayne, Selmy Barristan and Robert Baratheon... Such a mess lol!
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godofwarlover's avatar
I also believe Rhaegar and Lyanna are Jon's parents
Armilus616's avatar
Spoiler Alert: Confirmed in Season 6.
GreenSprite's avatar
These are very informative but they give me a headache! I can't understand how GRRM stands to write these things. I get tired thinking just about this particular event.
lilifane's avatar
I'm laughing so hard about the Brandon loved himself arrow. Made my day!
And you included Jon Connington. Nice detail :)
CerseiDM's avatar
Thank you!! I'm glad you liked it ^^
Caimbreaksyou's avatar
Jaime and Cersei needed a pink arrow, I think? Weren't they together long before Cersei married Robert?
CerseiDM's avatar
!! You're right!!
I thought Cersei only had real sex with Jaime after her wedding night, when she was humiliated when Robert called her Lyanna and she went to Jaime for comfort. But I've just asked Google and they had sex at least the night before Jaime took his vows. So by the time of the Harrenhal tourney, they had already made love.

Thanks a lot!! I'm gonna edit this as soon as I can!
Caimbreaksyou's avatar
Think nothing of it. The chart is adorable.
o0Magnus's avatar
And what about the theory of Lyanna giving birth to Jon Snow with Raeghar the father ?
CerseiDM's avatar
Well I certainly believe in this theory, which is why I put "love" arrows between Rhaegar and Lyanna :)
Scorpions4's avatar
There's a couple of theories disputing the whole R+L=J theory on Youtube. But the two I know of, are N+A=J (Ned + Ashara = Jon) by the  bloggers 'The Order of the Green Hand' link:…. Its pretty convincing.

The second one I know about is A+L=J (Arthur + Lyanna = Jon) which discusses that instead of Rhaegar being Jon's father, Arthur Dayne is. It's not as detailed but still convincing by bloggers 'Fire and Blood' when you compare Arthur and Jon's personalities and characteristics, link:…. It's mainly discussing how the ancestral sword of House Dayne, Dawn plays a part, especially as even with R+L=J being considered canon in Game of Thrones, George RR Martin hasn't yet made it known in the books.

I might be wrong but that's the nature of fan theories.
CerseiDM's avatar
Personally I've been 100% convinced that R+L=J since long before the show confirmed it. I have no doubt in my mind, there is a ton of proof for it.
But it's fun to know that other theories still exist! ^^ All the crazy GoT theories will never cease to amaze me.
Yawfle's avatar
awww! I think ned and cat loved each other though
CerseiDM's avatar
later yes, but not yet at the Tourney of Harrenhal. Cat was betrothed to Brandon at that time and had never looked twice at Ned ^^
mojo4's avatar
i think ashara was actually in love with ned not brandon…there is no indication she was interested in brandon at all. the only interaction they had was he talking to her on ned's behalf. she danced with ned not brandon and she killed herself seemingly after finding out ned killed her brother Arthur Dayne i believe she was even pregnant for ned. 
CerseiDM's avatar
Yes, your theory could be true too. I prefer mine but we really can't know what really happened so it's only theories.
My theory is that though Ned liked Ashara, Ashara preferred the hot-headed, handsome and famous swordsman that was Brandon. I think she agreed to dance with Ned only because Brandon asked her, and that afterward she slept with Brandon and got pregnant.
I'm not sure if she committed suicide because Brandon had been killed though, because he died like a year before her I think, and surely she would have learned Brandon was dead long before she committed suicide. It's difficult to know what really happened.

Anyway if you want to know a bit more about the Brandon/Ashara theory, there are a few lines on the first post (by indianthane95) here:…
But if you want the full version, the one that convinced me, I highly recommend the video made by Elio Garcia:… ;)
mojo4's avatar
Thanks a lot !
Vanyamelda's avatar
fun :) you forgot the sisterly/brotherly love of Ned and Lyanna though. thats what connects the two circles :)
YaBarbara's avatar
ahahah this funny^^
CMBaggs's avatar
Ha! Brandon's only red line doubles back! Love it!
maffy's avatar
I tend to agree with you, especially about Brandon! LOL
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