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SHUTDOWN TACTICS - ROBERT SPENCER

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Probably the most controversial speaker I will ever reference on this channel yet. This is Anti-Jihad expert and specialist Robert Spencer who runs a site known as JihadWatch.org and is an online commentator, kind of like how I was and my inspirations back in the day, but he is much more blunt. He goes after apologists for Islamism and Jihad, as well as SJWs who want to silence dissenting views on the topic.

Here is info from his official his written by himself:
"Spencer has led seminars on Islam and jihad for the FBI, the United States Central Command, United States Army Command and General Staff College, the U.S. Army’s Asymmetric Warfare Group, the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), the Justice Department’s Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council and the U.S. intelligence community. He has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism at a workshop sponsored by the U.S. State Department and the German Foreign Ministry.

Spencer is a weekly columnist for PJ Media and FrontPage Magazine, and has written many hundreds of articles about jihad and Islamic terrorism. His articles on Islam and other topics have appeared in the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Examiner, the New York Post, the Washington Times, the Dallas Morning NewsFox News OpinionNational ReviewThe FederalistThe Hill, the Detroit NewsTownHall.comReal Clear Religion, the Daily Caller, the New Criterion, the Journal of International Security Affairs, the UK’s Guardian, Canada’s National PostMiddle East QuarterlyWorldNet DailyFirst ThingsInsight in the NewsAleteia, and many other journals. For nearly ten years Spencer wrote the weekly Jihad Watch column at Human Events. He has also served as a consultant to the Center for Security Policy, a contributing writer to the Investigative Project on Terrorism, and as an Adjunct Fellow with the Free Congress Foundation."

He has even been praised by Islamic Reform advocate Ayaan Hirsi Ali: “No one has upset the Islamophobia cabal more than Robert Spencer. First, he knows more about Islamic doctrine than they do. Next, he has outed all the tricks they use in their taqiyyah bag to disinform the public. Finally, and most importantly, Robert will not be cowed.” — Ayaan Hirsi Ali

So likely someone will be triggered by his very presence here. LOL

Seriously though, onto the quote itself. It is from a response he did years ago, probably as early as 2006 in response to British leftist author Karen Armstrong's whine-fest of a review, where she called it "hate" of one Spencer's books critical of the Sunni Islamic sources (Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Sa'd al-Baghdadi, Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, & the hadith collections of Bukhari and Muslim, all of which written centuries after the "prophet" died so they need criticism for that alone). The full quote Spencer used went as follows: "This is, of course, a familiar tactic of Leftists, jihadists, and those who sympathize with them: characterize any accurate report of their activities as "hatred." Never mind that my book works strictly from the earliest extant Sunni Islamic sources, and only reports what they say. If there is any "hatred" in it, it comes from Sunni sources, not from me. Reading this, I doubt Armstrong actually read the book. Or maybe she just wants to make sure no one else reads it."

Needless to say, I am in full agreement with Robert, having seen similar feedback in many places, the idea that criticism is on the level of bullying or hatred is an absurdity of the highest degree and needs to be called out and even ridiculed as the pathetic piece of outrage culture that it is. It is basically authoritarian censorship and shows these Far-Left and Islamist people only want to live in an echochamber, and I have just one response for that: www.deviantart.com/cambion-hun…

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Brotherofsteel5's avatar
That could be interesting to see WHO are this leftishs who promoted and helped this islamo-leftish. Maybe in some cases we could fing .... Pyromaniacs-firemen.
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
Well said on this.
DaMummyFox123's avatar
Everything is racist, everything is hate...
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
To a certain party.
DaMummyFox123's avatar
The unamerican party full of jackasses
Fail-Seeker's avatar
This man is the truth itself. :nod:
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
He is very well spoken.
TheSultanAkbar's avatar
"Anyone can steal some quote".

-Me
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
Thank you for proving Robert right. B-)
frankperrin's avatar
A familiar tactic of the demagogue, regardless of political leaning, is the false attribution of malicious agency towards the opponent. It allows for the easy dismissal of others' opinions and contributes towards demonizing them as well. This reinforces the demagogue's power over his followers, which is the sole purpose of the demagogue, and damages the potential for compromise and the real solving of issues. 

A more likely explanation of the phenomenon you describe is simply lack of debate skills in those you encounter. It would also be the height of hypocrisy to say that only the opposing side suffers from this inability to express themselves in a constructive manner.

If you say that the places you visit only have shouting matches and bullying, then I would suggest you find a place where debate is better structured because it means you're operating in a level that's below your abilities. To linger among those less competent is simply a power-trip that does not further your agenda. Unless your agenda is the same as the demagogue's, I suppose.

I hope this helps.
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
Well, you are basically confirming the message here.

I have not listed which places, but you are basically supporting the points raised.

The feedback is appreciated.
frankperrin's avatar
In a way I am, I guess. In the sense that "shutdown tactics" are a popular method for those who don't know how to argue. Some will accuse the other of being hateful/bigots because they are ill-equipped to deal with nuance. Others will cry censorship because they are ill-equipped to deal with being challenged in their views.

The caveat I am making, however, is that there are those who would have you believe that the fault lies entirely on the "other side" and that the shutdown tactics are an intentional, concerted effort rather than the result of inexperience. This makes the other side seem like they're acting in bad faith, which makes it easier to hate them. It also makes it harder to make progress towards an actual solution.

So those people, the demagogues, who are so often slapped on memes are the real problem. It doesn't matter where they stand politically. Their goal is personal gain and ego-stroking. We should always question people who hold that kind of rhetoric, even if (especially if, even) we agree with their views.

Make no mistake, "you're just calling me hateful as a shutdown tactic" is a shutdown tactic in itself. There are better ways of reacting to shutdown tactics.

Thanks for listening. Or reading, I guess.
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
You are basically right here.

I disagree on that a little, calling a spade a spade with some explanation is only what it is, calling a spade a spade. It is not a shutdown move on its own, especially if you can be civil and actually explain how the "hateful" card does not work. It is all about raising good points.

And I thank you for the civil discourse, Frankperrin. Always good to see. ^^
NicholasCrow96's avatar
I get it but art man not this
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
Grammar is your friend, use it. ;)
code2's avatar
Wtf is this doing on Deviantart? This has nothing to do with art. The guy is ugly, the font is ugly, the message is the usual propaganda shit coming from the right side of the spectrum. Do everyone a favour and your ideologies to yourself.

Take this shit down and make DA a better place. This trash belongs on your HDD and nowhere else.
Kajm's avatar
So... you haven't noticed that there are over 200 political groups on this site, numbering tens of thousands in membership?
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Cambion-Hunter's avatar
Because DA is a place to express yourself and this is expression of views. Expression is art. Also, I love how you have not countered a single point raised here, showing your debating skills are in need of fine-tuning. Do everyone a favor and take the presence of political opinions on DA like a man.

You describe your comment. Also, awwww, is somebody butthurt? How cute. ROFL Also, thank you for proving Robert Spencer completely correct and things like this are Making DA Great Again. ;) XD
Fail-Seeker's avatar
A true hero to the people. :nod:
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
He got the smackdown skills.
TheNewKnightsTemplar's avatar
How did I miss these?  I won't anymore, and thanks for the faves!
Cambion-Hunter's avatar
You're welcome, and feel free to check out more of my gallery. ^^
TheNewKnightsTemplar's avatar
I most certainly will!!La la la la!! 
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