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Comparison: Mystery Cat vs. Domestic Cat by CabinetCuriosities Comparison: Mystery Cat vs. Domestic Cat by CabinetCuriosities
The mystery cat (8cm x 5,8cm) vs. a domestic cat (9,7cm x 6,5cm)

Any idea?
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Arrillaga Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
This is sort of a late reply to this post- but I think it may be a pallas cat?
www.mindenpictures.com/cache/p…

Or a Gordon's Wildcat, but I can't pull up too many pictures of them.. This is the best I could find d330gly30227z7.cloudfront.net/…

I don't think it is a domestic cat because of how round the eye sockets are, however the shape of them do suggest some sort of persian cat, maybe a mix? I think its nose is far too long to be a purebred persian, but some features make me think of them
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Edited Sep 16, 2017
I own 6 adult domestic cat skulls at the moment.

Their lenghts are between 7.8-10.3 centimeters.
Their widths between 5.5-6.5 centimeters.

(I think 9.7 centimeters for a cat is still pretty large.)

Apart from the size, I think it's the shape that makes the mystery cat the mystery cat. Most domestic cats skulls (from the side) are more rectangular shaped, this one seems more like a square.

Did you try this trick (I know it's not waterproof, but worth a try): imgur.com/a/UgMij
If the jaw keeps standing like this, the chance that it's a wild cat is bigger. If it keeps falling, the chance that it's a domestic cat is bigger. 
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CabinetCuriosities Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
I just tried it and it stands perfectly.
All my domestic cats are falling.

I guess it is a bit deformed so it won't fit anywhere perfectly.
But I am dying to know the real species :(

The skull Lot showed me seems fitting.
Maybe it is just a deformed asian leopard cat.
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017
One of my domestic cats doesn't fall (from the photo), so it won't work all the time.

Must be really frustating not to know :/
I see some clear similarities to your skull and hers (especially the front view), but again her skull is longer in shape, yours is more squared. 
If it turns out to be some kind of Asian leopard cat, would it still be legal for you to own?

I think it's really an interesting skull you have there :P
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CabinetCuriosities Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
It is since it is over 50 years old.
But I'd like to know for sure.

No matter what species it is - there is some deformation.
I guess the chance to ID it will meet a dead end :(

And I am not going to pay for a professional test ^^
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017
a that's nice :)

It's hard to find good references of all cat breeds/species

Maybe one day you will find out :) In the end it's still a nice skull in my opinion 
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CabinetCuriosities Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Yes. Definitely. I really like it eventhough I can't be sure about the species.

If I ever get the chance I will definitely work on reference material for cat skulls (breed and species wise).
It sucks to not have any chance.
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2017
That really would be great.
I've got a persian cat skull imgur.com/a/4SJVa (I think the shape isn't too extreme for a persian cat, I've seen way worse skulls)

A Russian Blue: imgur.com/a/7od34 this one is in a bad condition. It was my mother's cat, it died in a car crash, the skull fell into 4 big pieces and a lot of splinters. It was burried near a tree, so the roots damaged the skull even more. 
Because of this, it is hard to tell the difference of the breed, but I think the jaw looks completely different from a European Shorthair: imgur.com/a/YqUmn The coronoid process (?) of the Russian Blue (below) is longer and different in shape the the coronoid process of the European Shorthair (up)

I think most of my cat skulls are European Shorthairs, but I will never know for sure I think, I can't find enough references. The bigger cat skull, I showed you once 10,5 centimers long, is probably some other breed, but that will stay a mystery as well.

I would really appreciate a cat breed/species reference material :) You can find a lot of information about dog skulls, information on cat skulls is harder to find.
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Viergacht Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2017  Professional General Artist
The weird, boxy shape at the muzzle makes it look a bit like a jaguarundi. 
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Lot1rthylacine Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:) Asian Leopard cat skull by Lot1rthylacine    mine seems more delicate, but this species has about 12 subspecies, and there's some cranial differences.
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Lot1rthylacine Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I will post pictures of my Asian leopard cat tomorrow so you can compare them ;)
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nekonotaishou Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017  Professional Filmographer
small domestic cat?

smaller wild cat?
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Exifia Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a hard skull to identify. I have placed it in a Dutch Facebook group that indentifies animals and plants. Maybe someone there has something useful to say.
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017
What is the group called? I would like to join :P
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Exifia Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
"Determinatie van planten en dieren" :)
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017
Duidelijk :) was ergens wel te verwachten :')
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Exifia Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Het is een leuke pagina, ik vind het een aanrader.
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DikkeBobby Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017
Ja, net verzoek aangevraagd. Ik zit in heel veel groepen met determinatie van haaientanden, fossielen, botten, schedels, vuusteen, aardewerk etc.etc., maar planten vind ik ook wel leuk en interesant, ook beetje voor mijn studie en algemene kennis :)
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Exifia Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Ontzettend leuk! En ja, je leert veel van zulke groepen als je telkens vanalles voorbij ziet komen :D
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Exifia Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha ja :giggle:
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SterlingKato Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017
My best guess is it's a domestic cat that had a cranial and facial deformity OR perhaps maybe (and this is a big maybe) a Sand Cat -- upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… However the bridge is too long and that cranial dome is too pronounced so that's an unlikely choice. However, that's he only skull I could find on a wild felid that was that small. 

My vote is a domestic shorthair (or long) with a slightly deformed skull :thumbsup: Probably not one of the Brachycephalic breeds (Persian, Exotic shorthair, etc) but just a cat that was born with a defect. 
Very interesting to look at and a unique little prize for sure!
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KyaTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017
I have a deformed cat skull :)
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KyaTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017
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SterlingKato Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017
They're interesting, no?
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KyaTheWolf Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2017
Yea they are :) so many different cats out there and they are all unique in their own way!
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Dae-Thalin Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks like a deformity or maybe a certain breed?
I looked up the skulls of a few small wild cat species but none looks like this one.
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Ao-No-Lupus Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2017  Hobbyist
Ohmygosh
i would say something like a Exotic shorthear??
looks to have a bit of a flat snout
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