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broken noose: Deviantart no longer fiddles with my website linksI am too tired to explain all the nonsense and hassles but it works now, for now.  I would like to acknowledge :iconthespook: for determining and providing some crucial information which helped me determine how to move this matter along.  I got the impression this problem was going to get worse and start affecting me on more websites in more browsers but now I have nothing to blame but my own incompetence for my obscurity!
So now you can click on httpS:// , , and whatever else and actually see what I was assuming you would have seen the whole time!  You probably wouldn't want to, but you could!
This of course follows up on my RAGE from earlier: Deviantart fiddles with my website links
Now I am going to have a nap!


addendoy: I do not encounter this in google chrome or internet explorer, but I do not especially like google chrome and internet explorer yet less!  I suppose it could potentially be firefox's problem but the fact remains that I don't have this problem on other stupid art sites whatever the browser is, so the problem seems to be most likely a case of firefox being more delicately coded and consequently more sensitive to deviantart's shoddy forwarding system.
----------------- is my website.  It works.  It is fine.  It always has been.  But deviantart consistently alters the urls without permission, and has been doing so for at least a year. The links should be "http" NOT "https." No other site does this to me. It is SABOTAGE.  It makes me look at best like I am too dumb to put in my link properly or stopped having one and forgot to remove the links, and at WORST like I am running a criminal operation.  I don't have hundreds of dollars lying around to spend on "security certificates" and it isn't necessary. My site doesn't run any scripts. It is merely a system through which I express myself. I think it is valuable when people do so, and own their points of exhibition.  They should not have to submit to the whims of twitler blogsport livepress wordturtle whatever which might delete everything they have at any moment for no reason or cover their content with sponsored obnoxiosity.

If a person wants to look at my website they will have to manually type it the url or alter it after clicking on a link, which is extremely improbable.  The contents of my website are primarily of personal importance and I am not greatly harmed by this sabotage, at least by this point when I have accepted that obscurity is my fate, beyond the frustration of having it be affirmed in yet one more way that this social media "system" is set up to exclude certain types of voices while patting itself on the back for being a platform that provides equal opportunities.  It is one lie among many.

People who don't use deviantart like to gloat that it is "dead" or whatever.  I appreciate that there is ORDER to it and it provides a clear index of everything a person has uploaded.  You don't necessarily have to be present the instant a picture goes up to have a chance of even knowing it exists if it isn't from an overhyped celebrity figure.  But there is no justification for screwing around with my links!

Thank you and goop muck.
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grompe Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2018
The funny thing is, https certificates are free now (using LetsEncrypt), but shared hosting providers pretend they aren't to try to milk more money.
bimshwel Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2018
bloody rubbish.
vindurza Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate when it does that
Jumbi Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
that's very strange. i actually haven't had to click your link in your profile since i just visit your site directly, and most other links i click around here lead directly to sites like tumblr or youtube. 
it's also weird that the redirect method didn't work. is this something you can contact the site's, er, "tech support" about? there might be troubleshooting around the forum side. 
bimshwel Featured By Owner Edited Nov 9, 2018
Sites with money behind them, like tumblr and youtube, can afford the security certificates that the "s" in the http is looking for.  My position is I shouldn't have to buy a certificate, yearly, because there is nothing on my website that accesses any person's data.  There are no passwords, there are no off-site scripts, and the only on-site script is the one that submits comments that people enter (or do not enter) voluntarily.  And this has always been the case, so there is no reason for it to change other than that web hosts are giving up on their customers, and sites like this one give up on anyone who uses a web host.  
I will contact the technical support but I greatly suspect this will be identified as my problem if I am answered at all, as it was when I asked my own webhost asmallorange about it.
ALTHOUGH "thespook" here is telling me both that actually I DO have a security certificate and that deviantart is redirecting properly!  This is just the way things go.
thespook Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018
I've noticed this too, ever since they switched to HTTPS everywhere. Possible solution might be to use to redirect?

...also, weirdly, the link in your journal here works fine :o
bimshwel Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018
Thank you for at least acknowledging that this issue exists and affects people other than me!
The link worked when I used the preview, but from here it doesn't. That proves that it CAN work properly, but the thing that breaks the link is broken, and so cannot be unbroken in a consistent or predictable manner.
I never considered a redirect method!  But alas I tried it just now and the result is the same!
thespook Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018
So, after some digging, I think I know what is going on.

dA is using redirects properly - it isn't rewriting your URL to HTTPS.

What's happening is that when Firefox sends the request to your web host for your home page, it also sets a flag (upgrade-insecure-request). This flag is to indicate that the browser has a preference for maintaining secure communication if possible (HTTPS to HTTPS). The flag exists because as the web moves to HTTPS everywhere, there will still be old links pointing to HTTP, even though the host can handle HTTPS just fine.

So ok, your host responds: yes, I can handle HTTPS! But the problem is that the SSL certificate is for "" (your provider) not!

Contact customer support, they should be able to help you with this. The problem isn't that you don't have an SSL certificate, it's that they're incorrectly telling the browser that you have one. If they can't/won't fix it on their end, you might be able to write a rule in the .htaccess file that forces another redirect back to HTTP from HTTPS.

phew :)
bimshwel Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018
Well!  Thank you for digging at all!  I figured I was just high and dry on this.  Do you mean I should contact my web host's technical support?  When I did they only told me to buy a certificate, but then that person probably wasn't briefed on responding to this specific matter, either.

I have only touched htaccess a few times to block some specific, persistent robot ip addresses so I hope it doesn't come to that.  I feel like the redirect is happening before any of my actual data gets seen, but I don't understand this at all so maybe it is.
thespook Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2018
After a bit more reading, it seems that this is a complication of being on shared hosting, you do have to get your own SSL certificate. And you're right, htaccess redirect wont help because the error happens before it can get to it.

It'd feel like extortion if it wasn't for the fact there are several free SSL certificate providers - like CloudFlare, Let's Encrypt, or Comodo. CloudFlare seems easiest, but the other two can be done from in cPanel just fine.

bimshwel Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2018
Yorp cloudflare has been right there in my control panel thing for years.  I never touched it because I didn't know what it was.  Why couldn't the actual support person have told me to just turn that on?  Thank you for being so helpful with this!  I presume I will need a day or so to see if it actually helps with my link problem but I imagine in general I would rather that be on than off.
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