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*The Descent* Dark SWAT Kats Origin Story - Pg. 19 by betaruga *The Descent* Dark SWAT Kats Origin Story - Pg. 19 by betaruga
(I'm so sorry guys, this week's pages are gonna be a little late! This week has just been--intense.)

I'm doing the art and adaptation based off Kristen Sharpe and SK Sage's story "They That Walk In Darkness", you can follow the comic on Tumblr

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ganeshraja Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
great work 
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015   Artist
Thanks!
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ganeshraja Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i like your art thank you for dark tail 
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kristensk Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, wow...  That last frame is like the dark mirror of epic.  Amazing and terrifying. 

You know, I tried to say this earlier and couldn't figure out how to word it.  But, seeing all of this in comic form - maybe just seeing it through someone else's vision - gives this story a level of emotional impact it didn't have when I was the one writing it.  It's not that I'm not invested in stuff I write; I think there's just a disconnect when you're the one in charge.  Now, I'm seeing this all over again through your amazing art and it's like, "This is way more intense than what I wrote!"
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Risen-Art Featured By Owner Edited Nov 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
It's that mirror effect.  One time a writer friend of mine didn't fully grasp how MEAN she was being to a couple of her characters until I drew a panel. In this case it was a son arresting his own father. She was all, "Whoa, the feels!" Other times she's "MWAHAHAAA!":giggle: That's why I love writer/artist symbiosis~
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015   Artist
I think it's cool to do this for that exact reason to be honest--there was a LOT of strength in the fic and I wanted to translate that while also hopefully adding to the impact. And I can definitely see how someone else reinterpreting your work can make you see it in a new way. I'm hard on my work but I'm sure I'd be wowed if someone else paid tribute like this, too. I really appreciate your feedback as always, and I'm glad this is stirring something up for you! :) BTW, I was wondering if you happened to get the email reply I sent you a few months ago? If not I can resend it 
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kristensk Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I did get your email!  And, I really am writing a reply.  I let everything in my box get backed up, and trying to organize my fanfic thoughts into logical order is being difficult, but I *will* write you back.
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2015   Artist
Oh cool, that's great to hear :) Take you time, LOL I'm behind on a few things myself too, I feel like very "free moment" I have is filled to the brim lately @__@ 
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Pokygirl2001 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2015
I've looked at this 85 times. I just want to run up to them and beg them to change their ways!!

PLEASE DONT DO IT GUYS!!
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2015   Artist
That is basically like the most gratifying comment ever, THANK YOOUU
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Risen-Art Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
No problem, I know how it is *pat*

Ironically you helped motivate me to post more regularly in my own comic.  Having that weekly THING you can look forward to is just such a NICE feeling. I want to spread that =D

I felt my heart sink at this page... I'm thinking "Aww, no... NO guys..." :-(

You progress SO MUCH PLOT in just 3 panels, I hate you, lol!
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
OH wow <3 ;__; That actually made me feel a hell of a lot better, LOL. I feel like I failed myself, missing my deadline. Like, "how am I supposed to make it in the world of pro comics when I can't get these two pages done on time? They pump out like 20+ pages a month" so knowing that I at least inspired somebody (who happens to be super talented!) with my weekly webcomic is like, cathartic. Thank you!!

LOL well keep in mind, this is all a flashback from Chance while he's in prison ;) So the conversation between them and Dark Kat still isn't over, just super imposing what *actually* happened as a retrospective contrast to what Dark Kat had been saying. We'll get back to the "good old boys" on the next page ;) 
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Risen-Art Featured By Owner Edited Nov 5, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I'm glad :hug:

Ah, I got it now, that flashback where you just see his hands on his lap, transitioning from the prison cell to the couch in the scrap yard. It's feels kind of cyclic, like it could have happened before or after they ended up in the scrapyard an you'll only find out which order if you keep reading.  I love the flashbacks with the conversation overlay.  Rather poetic.

Well here's the thing, are you making this comic full time and being paid for your time?  If you were doing this as an actual job, you'd be compensated for your time and your hands would be freed up to just work on this without living expenses bugging you. You could afford to put out those 20 pages a month. If this is a side gig and you have to work/go to school on the side WHILE updating TWICE a week, that's pretty darn good if you ask me considering you aren't getting a dime for this(?) It's good you still schedule yourself regardless but don't be too down on yourself if you overshoot once in the blue. :-)
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
"I love the flashbacks with the conversation overlay. Rather poetic." 

*HANDS IN THE AIR!* THANK YOU! THAT MEANS A LOT!! I feel like that's where the "art" in comics really capitalizes and like, the thought of that stuff grips me, you have no idea. It's like one of those things I've aspired to doing forever and then SOMEBODY VALIDATES DEM RESULTS AW YIS


"Well here's the thing, are you making this comic full time and being paid for your time?  If you were doing this as an actual job, you'd be compensated for your time and your hands would be freed up to just work on this without living expenses bugging you. You could affordto put out those 20 pages a month. If this is a side gig and you have to work/go to school on the side WHILE updating TWICE a week, that's pretty darn good if you ask me considering you aren't getting a dime for this(?) It's good you still schedule yourself regardless but don't be too down on yourself if you overshoot once in the blue." 

Hmmm. You know, I guess that makes sense. I work two jobs while doing this comic (yes for free) on the side, so... I think that actually DOES make good sense then, yeah. Also, isn't it the norm for a comic artist to not have to do *all* the tasks? After Kristen Sharpe and SK Sage wrote the fic, I wrote the adapted script, and then did all penciling, inking, screentoning AND lettering. So... maybe time wise it actually evens out. I'd just hate it if it wound up I was too slow to take on a job for a comic publishing company after finishing this webcomic. 

Dude, THANK you. That really helped to read. Rock on *bro fist!*
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Risen-Art Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Indeed, it's the basic showing vs telling. You know how many comics in OFFICIAL publication are full of text boxes? You do comics like a cinematic storyboard :thumbsup:

I find many INDIE comic artists find themselves doing the work of an entire team starting out.  In the industry you have separate teams doing the writing, penciling, inking, color, lettering and such. In my own freelancing I take into account that I'm doing the work of an entire team and factor that into my time and rates.

Also been researching official submission guidelines so I have a framework to work towards jasonthibault.com/definitive-l…

:iconbrofistplz: You're welcome! 8D
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015   Artist
That's super cool! I'm sure you'd have NO problem getting for-hire OR creator-owned work. Your stuff is appealing AND marketable as fuck, and can also swing into mainstream, too. I'm kinda wondering if there IS a place where my work would be marketable in a for-hire setting. It's not mainstream looking, and I'm just... not into superheroes. Which seems to be the vast majority of for-hire work. Honestly, I'm kind of stuck when it comes to... how to develop my portfolio/future next. I've done freelance, sure, but stopped taking clients for illustration a few years ago, making money doing other media stuff/odd jobs while I reassessed my relationship with art, and now that I wanna get back in, I'm kinda... at a loss of who'd even fucking hire my portfolio, or, what. I dunno. IM GONNA GET A MENTOR
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Risen-Art Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
(Thanks!)

I'm not much into the standard superheros like Marvel or DC either ^^ Are those what you mean by 'mainstream'? The comic market is MUCH more diverse than that especially now that Interwebs has put more power into the hands of the indie creator :-)

I feel you on that.  I'm getting back into the swing of things myself.  I'm no mentor so this is with a grain of salt.  For now, I just do work that I CARE about and enjoy.  You obviously care very much about this comic you are currently doing and it shows in the quality. I know as a reader/viewer, I want to hear YOUR voice.

I do freelance to help sustain myself but I always try to set aside time for the work that reflects my voice because I have things to say. Doing so energizes me and keeps the creativity flowing. In the process I listen to music I like and watch shows that inspire my vision.

And of course, stay connected to the art community! We need fellowship~
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2015   Artist
"I'm not much into the standard superheros like Marvel or DC either ^^ Are those what you mean by 'mainstream'?" 

Yeah basically :) 

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 The comic market is MUCH more diverse than that especially now that Interwebs has put more power into the hands of the indie creator :-) (Smile)

While this is true, when you're referring to for-hire wages for comic book artists... indie creators/interwebs don't really seem to offer those sort of financial opportunities or steady work. But if you know of other comic book publishers that seek for-hire work for non-mainstream comic artists, I'd love to know! <3 

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I feel you on that.  I'm getting back into the swing of things myself.  I'm no mentor so this is with a grain of salt.  For now, I just do work that I CARE about and enjoy.  You obviously care very much about this comic you are currently doing and it shows in the quality. I know as a reader/viewer, I want to hear YOUR voice."

Sounds like we're in a similar boat actually :) And THANKS! I really feel like creator-owned stuff is where I belong, but as for making a living off illustration... I sometimes wonder if I've shot myself in the foot with my portfolio/style. I dunno. I've been up to my eyeballs with BUSY lately, but hopefully soon I can get myself a mentor, even if I have to pay for one @__@

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I do freelance to help sustain myself but I always try to set aside time for the work that reflects my voice because I have things to say. Doing so energizes me and keeps the creativity flowing. In the process I listen to music I like and watch shows that inspire my vision."

Man, that sounds like living the dream to me! I haven't done freelance for ages now, been doing other stuff for monies and want to re-enter the market but this time, say no to bad clients (ew) 

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And of course, stay connected to the art community! We need fellowship~"

Well, I certainly like you, your work and your attitude! :3 Lets be bro's, yo!
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CodyFurlong Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
I love the last pannel in this one, so much epicness.
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
LOL thanks 
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Jesse220 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
And that's how they went bad
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Pokygirl2001 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
I should clarify by pointing out: the panel is fantastic. ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL.
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
THANKS BRO I have more to learn but I try! :3
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Pokygirl2001 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
...Crotch emphasis.
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
xD;; it's based off the SWAT Kats promo designs, and actual flight suits have crotch openings like that, too
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Pokygirl2001 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
And it's authentic and cool! I was just like, oh. Crotch. I try not to think of them having crotches.
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TheAtomicDog Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
The pages are getting darker as our main characters dive into the shadows.
Also: Doz Crotches
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
LOL XD well, this is more the tonal shift I used in the flashbacks? So it's a time skip view of what Dark Kats actual offer develops into. Having a retrospective comic that only shows a literal conversation would just...suck xD
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TheAtomicDog Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
Yes. You are correct.
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masdos Featured By Owner Edited Nov 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's no need to apologize for lateness when you're working with this much detail!

These are all incredible shots, particularly that last panel! Strike a pose, Boys! XD

Also, I love your variation of Enforcers in the second panel. Much better than the clones we got in the show. :)

~Sage
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betaruga Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Artist
Oh god xD;; thanks man. 

DUDE it wasn't until after I inked the damn thing that I realized Felina would have made a perfect cameo there. Ugh. OH well.
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Uh oh citizens of megakat city better watch out better run and hide because there's a new villains in town and they're bad they're bad to the bone >:D
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