Clarifications for youtube users
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To be honest I'm the user VileMMX1 from youtube and I was an ATO supporter, but not an full member. Sometime after the war between ATO and AATO ended, I have closed my account and stayed on deviantart. I and my friends discussed what would better for us after the drama and we decided to not feed trolls and neither mention their names at any cost. We managed to avoid conflicts and defamation later on and I was more like a lurker in youtube, then a friend of mine was being bullied by an ex-ATO member who refused to give up fighting trolls. I do understand that as an ATO supporter, many might think I was butthurt about trolls, however I was no longer getting into flame wars and neither cursing about how I was trolled (I don't even care about trolls insults at all). That ex-ATO member love anime a lot, however he was ALWAYS bawwing about how "AnimeHater" and "Cloner"  where ratting his videos down or reporting them. We tried our BEST to change his mind, but he gotten worse till he started to bully another friend of  mine, so we had to bump him and do reports if he had said something stupid. About "AnimeHater", I believe he has not returned at all, considering how he owned himself is ilogic his return. So I believe "Cloner" is pretending to be him. I'm not saying the actual trolls names, since it'll only feed these trolls, due to that I suggest youtubers alike to quit fighting trolls. Doing flame wars was a mistake which the original ATO had commited, by admiting not only the old ATO mistakes and my own mistakes as well, I wish you guys to give a try and ignore trolls best you can. They cannot do a thing if you guys ignore them, I and old ATO members which gave up of flame wars managed to avoid many needless conflicts and also avoid defamation.  So do your best to not mention that you had been trolled, had a video reported or ratted down. Doing it, you're likelly calling attention of trolls who will keep bothering you no stop. If we wish to avoid trolls, then we should not rely into reports, we should be superior to the trolls and not give the attention which they wishes. If a troll don't get any type of attention, he'll eventually give up. So do not put troll fake address and neither put their names. Remember one thing: trolls are cowards and they'll never risk themselves by giving their address away. Putting a hate list in our profiles and with supposedly trolls address is the same as giving reason for trolls. Trolls usually wishes to have their victims acting like trolls themselves, that's the major reason that they're never give up of trolling. I hope you guys understand the gravity of these mistakes and start to have a better relationship in youtube and have a better stay. Do not feed the trolls, we from the old ATO and supporters understand pretty well the gravity of our mistakes and we do understand that is difficult to have the trust of others after failing with them, but is not natural for a human being admit his own mistakes and try his best to surpass himself/herself and become a better person? However, don't forget that trolls will never admit their own errors and surpass themselves.
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I got attacked by a bunch of trolls on Youtube this morning, marked all their comments as spam
BlueVioletgirl101's avatar
Some anti-trolls are saying that youtube is getting too "liberal". I don't believe that because what they are doing is just as bad as the trolls.
atoorganization's avatar
They're too hypocritical nowadays, they act like previous ATO members by making doxxing, trolling against other users and even hate speech. If not enough, they're commiting hate speech all the time and in special in their profiles.
BlueVioletgirl101's avatar
Agreed. These people even end up "trolling" the wrong users due to "protecting" youtube. For example, Warioman. This kind of thing is inexcusable.

If they cared about protecting users, then why do they constantly go at users assuming that they are trolls without proof? The thing that happens to Warioman, WILL HAPPEN to another innocent user. That my beef about this whole thing. There were some people who got attacked for no reason or just having a different opinion about something. I would like for them to answer that question.
I know the ATO wasn't good either but I wasn't involved with all the hacking mess and I didn't liked pokemon. So saying that ATO attacked Pokem0n haters is false. I wasn't a fan of Pokemon when I was in that group for a short time even as I left I was a supporter. I hate pokemon really. I'm just throwing that out there for people who say they attacked pokemon haters. I didn't like pokemon and I was NEVER ATTACKED. This is another example how people shouldn't assume.

They also don't get the method about "ignore the troll" but you can also REPORT HIM SILENTLY while ignoring them. Also the DNFTT method, also says you can't rid of trolls either. Sadly, people forgot that fact. I learned this the hard way.
atoorganization's avatar
That was a reason which ATO got defamed in the past, these fools even believe in every DAMN lie which AATO said in the past about us. But they follow a worse path and insult those who moved on. I never stop seeing these guys being butthurt about everything which Nparga says and he is not even a fail troll, he don't do lectures like one would.
BlueVioletgirl101's avatar
Like I said, what are these people are gonna do if they attacked the wrong person like Warioman? It's unfair they attacked without no proof of anything. They say they keep youtube safe, I FEEL unsafe to be on that site. I mostly care about the doxxing going on that. That's someone's else address and it's not a toy. I don't WANT someone assuming that I am a troll go and DOX me because they thought that I was a threat. I have family living in my HOME. They will not like that some fool on the internet who thinks it's funny and helpful to expose my mailing address, phone number, and whatever.

They are lucky that they didn't dox Warioman. If they did then Warioman's family members will not be pleased about someone about doxxing them online. And believe me parents are powerful when it comes to this. Do they also have any idea they are not only putting one person in danger but other people may live at that address? It's all fun and games UNTIL someone's get hurts. The internet has creeps far worse than trolls. Do they really want a murderer finding that address and kill them. That's the worse case scenario.
atoorganization's avatar
"That's also an reason which the dox is useless, you guys will keep searching and never find anything."
I mean these crazy guys not you^^
BlueVioletgirl101's avatar
Alot of people are seeing you as a threat right now. I would be surprised when a an anti-ninja and Samurai channel will come up anytime soon. It will be like AATO/ATO all over again.

I could never join ATO again this time. Too much the name is tainted. I might return to youtube with only my channel comment locked.

I'm sick of those idiots complaining about nparga and forcing everyone to side on them. The ATO in the past ( not now) did that sort of thing. History is repeating again only this time these group of people are more stupid.

You should do a journal on how they shouldn't attack neutral people and don't assuming everyone who is neutral is a troll.
atoorganization's avatar
Hypocrite people is hypocrite, we got called as hypocrites during our time as ATO while AATO was lying to the public that "trolling was free speech". Actually the 1st amendment doesn't say that insulting others for fun over internet is free speech. That news of trolling/cyberbullying as a form of free speech was FAKE.
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atoorganization's avatar
The issue is not just that, Nparga wants to trap people to come at him personally. He'll say that these guys wanted to hurt him and his parents for what happened on-line to the police and in the end some of these lolcows might even get arrasted. And think how they blame ATO for the past. ATO members gotten defamed for what they did, but they still don't wanted to reveal trolls residences and go to fight them in real life. Also he might even be using internet for spamming people's channels in a friend's house or even using a cyber-cafe. That's also an reason which the dox is useless, you guys will keep searching and never find anything.
BlueVioletgirl101's avatar
They'll never learn. It looks like it will be a while to go return to youtube. These people clearly act like they own the place.
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