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The Pocket Galaxy and her big sister

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The Tashkent, an Orion class, rendezvous with the Enterprise, a Galaxy class, in 2365.

In 2361, following the successful trials of the Galaxy class, Starfleet made a concerted effort to capture the awe of the class as a more affordable cruiser, a ship that would evoke the Galaxy's grandeur but be a viable replacement for the aging New Orleans class. The Orion class was devised. Conceived as a 'pocket' Galaxy at just 22 decks, the design was fairly successful and was a decent enough performer over the New Orleans that it was pushed into production. By 2379, with a short production run of just eighteen years, several wars and a severe paradigm shift in Starfleet design, the Orion Class was replaced with the Luna Class. 

Credits:
Orion Class - DJ Curtis (special thanks to jetfreak-7!)
Enterprise D - David Metlesits (conversion by mattymanx)

Borrowed a brief bit of the class' history from jetfreak-7.

I really do love the pocket-galaxy. It has the 'bulldog' look of the 4 ft. model of the Galaxy from the show and I love it. 

Rendered in DAZ Studio 4.10 with iRay.
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PlutoSkybaseHobbyist General Artist

i'm late to the party, but i'd like to say i agree with everything you say. i would love to see more of her as well.

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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist

I'm debating building a version of it from scratch so I can do close-ups and such. Right now that's an in game model DJ Curtis did up with a few texture tweaks. She needs a smidgen more detail to get closer to her.

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The Orion Class look very similar to the Galaxy Class :)
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist

She very much is, but she's only about as high as the TOS Enterprise.

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Interesting.
jayphailey's avatar

EEEE!!! I Love it. I have been looking for this ship for years and you've found it!

I didn't know it even existed. What happened with DJ Curtis? is he still running around?

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Thanks!  I had to ask to get a copy from Jetfreak-7 as I couldn't track down DJ Curtis version. I'm not sure if they're still active much anymore or not. :(
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Beautiful, less bulky.
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
And about the size of the Enterprise-A ;)
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I like this Orion-class.  Seems more battle-ready than the larger Galaxy-class.  
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah DJ Curtis did a great job scaling down the Galaxy. 
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Knight3000Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pretty cool
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!
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NhlaqgorHobbyist Artisan Crafter
Do you have more data about the Pocket Galaxy?
Like dimensions and other data?
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
I don't have much on her as DJ Curtis did the original design. I just counted decks and matched up the bridge and deck sizes on the models. ;)

I did put together some rough estimates measuring them out though...

Orion Class
Decks: 22
Length: 1300 ft (396m)
Width: 829.7 ft. (252.9m)
Height: 262.5 ft (80m)
Crew: 350

Galaxy Class
Decks: 42
Length: 2100 ft.
Width: 1521 ft.
Height: 451 ft.
Crew: 1012

(I'm guessing at the number of crew, but being smaller in height than an Excelsior and an Ambassador and more automation you could see her with less crew than the TOS Connie easily)
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CrownDigitalArtHobbyist Digital Artist
Some beautiful looking models and great renders!
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!
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NhlaqgorHobbyist Artisan Crafter
Nice work!
I really like the shape and flowing lines of the Galaxy and her sister ship class. It's a shame Star Trek producers decided to focus Star Trek on war and violence.

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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
It is. I do like some of the later designs. The Sovereign is sleek as hell but definitely more a warship than an exploration vessel. Hell most of the designs post TNG are more like warships. 

And thank you!
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Whereas it can be argued that the Galaxy was already classified as a Battleship in TNG.
(it is mostly only crewed by incompetent morons, see ST:7)
It was only in later series where Star Trek producers got overboard with putting 100 torpedo launchers on newer ships, because they though this would inspire awe for some reason (i heavily doubt Star Trek fans are so dumb, tbh. lol).

A Galaxy Class equipped with the same tech as a Sovereign (the difference is only 15 years or so) such a Galaxy Class would vastly outgun a Sov., alone for its huge internal volume there would be space for a much more massive warp core, multiple shield generators, auxillery fusion reactors and some updated Torpedo launcers. Let alone the biggest phaser array in Starfleet history.
I'm sure after the Dominion War, Starfleet will never put families on board of Starships again, because it was a silly idea to start with.
But that's just my personal head canon, lol.
I'm sure other ppl. will argue the Sov will be better anyways, just because they associate the Galaxy with being a luxury liner for some reason.

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Oh I don't disagree that the Galaxy would be an insanely powerful battleship over a Sovereign with updated tech, but the problem with the Galaxy is she's almost too big. Even with inertial dampeners I imagine she turns like a cruise ship which isn't great in combat. Sure we see her swing about in the series, but they never appear all that manageable in large fleet situations and multiple tight turns. The Sovereign is definitely more suited for the combat role, smaller more agile.  But yeah, the overload of weapons platforms on her was a bit ridiculous. Especially when in Nemesis they went and added MORE weaponry to something that was already over-loaded.

That's not to say I don't like the Sovereign class, I really do, but to me the Galaxy really speaks more about superiority in Federation design than the Sovereign. While she ended up over-matched by the Dominion, the Galaxy could handle most of what the other powers could throw at her, without some real bad decisions at the helm. 

And while I can see not putting families on starships that regularly see combat, ie your flagship and border patrols that regularly tangle with your enemies, I could easily see them on long term exploration, especially on missions that take up to ten years without returning to a Starbase. Which is ideally what the Galaxy class was designed for. 
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Agreed.
A story like Voyager had would have suited much better to TNG imo, especially to the Galaxy Class.
This would have allowed much more interesting stories, especially since Gene Roddenberry was still alive back then. Unlike in VOY where almost nothing had consequences with someone else at the helm of producing Star Trek, i think this would have been a amazing Series (even more than it already is imo)

Regarding the fleet battles, i think a Galaxy could easily compensate its lack of maneuverabilty with its stronger shields.
On the other hand the Sovereign or other ships are not that much of a smaller target, at least not if you consider how accurate sensors/weapons are in Star Trek in general. These ships are still in the 100-1000 of meters range, so not that much of a problem for these sensors.
I think ship size does play a much smaller role there as in Star Wars for example.
(I think the makers of DS9 needed *some* justification for their "cool" super spacefighter, USS Defiant)

The fleet Battles in DS9 didn't look very dynamic to me, so i don't really see what a little bit more maneuverabilty of the sovereign class would have added to a fleets offensive power, but i could be wrong.


I'm probably the only one worldwide, but to me Star Trek ships are almost synonymous with napoleonic era tall ships.
From a military point of view (with some minor exceptions) the bigger they are the better (more defensive power and more attack power).
Their limiting factor is technology and resources.
(How big can a ship be build, without loosing its resistance power against incoming attacks? And how big are the guns you can put on a ship?)
Of course Military power is only a small part of the mission range of a Starfleet ship (that's why they need a much higher internal volume compared to a klingon or dominion ship for example.) Other things are just as or even more important. That's why they need to be much more versatile than other major powers Starships.

Sorry for the ramble, i'm just glad i can talk to someone about Star Trek ships.
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ashleytingerHobbyist Digital Artist
Heh. No worries.

I could talk for hours on this ;)
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Oh in case you missed the note i have send, i have created somekind of a pocket Galaxy Class just a couple of days ago. I'd love to see your opinion about the design.
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