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I like the light in this shot.

Glendalough, Ireland, September 2002
Canon EOS 300, Fuji Neopan 400, orange filter, tripod, lab, scanned neg
see comments for (eventually) a hopefully readable explanation of the use of the orange filter
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narang99 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2002
he he cant be bortherd to read all that!
Those basterds at uni will probley teach us about filters
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Anywayz, very nice stuff! the light is fantastic!
I love the tones alot.......
In the darroom you could do alot to this image.
Those basterds at uni started putting me in the darkroom
ha ha
i don wanna be harsh man, but there somthing missing
there should be a little persion or a house, somthing, for the eye to foucus on, to show the massive scale of the landscape, i dont know, i'm not a landscape photographer......
But still man, it's a great photo......
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acrophile Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2002   Photographer
You could always buy large filters and use adapter rings on smaller lenses... that way you just have one set of filiters. :) (Smile)
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verunec Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2002
Absolutely beautiful tones here!
This one should be wonderful if printed about 100x70cm size, possibly by one of the latest assistant of Ansel Adams ;) (Wink)
So many details and tones!

I'm not a great user of filters but this kind of photos need it necessarily. I've just ordered last week the famous black and white 'trinity' of filters: jellow, green and red. I choose the best and most expensive ones: I have to wait 3/4 months for it! (they get the order and then they build them, there is not a commercial distribution, bizarre) They must to be exceptional, I hope :) (Smile)
I tried the cheap Hoya series for my Minolta lenses but it's like to throw away money (because of lens flares they produce, essentially).
Anyway, I think this time I did a good buy. All my Nikon lenses, except the PC series (for architectural shot) have a 52mm ring. So I think it could be a 'definitive' buy, for the rest of my life :) (Smile)
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ash Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2002
My explanation above seems confusing to me this morning :) (Smile) I think many people who aren't familiar with filters at all probably need an explanation of the basic principles.

The fundamental thing to remember is that light is composed of the three additive primary colours red, green and blue, with all other colours being composed of different amounts of these primaries. Eg. yellow is red plus green, orange is red plus half as much green, white is a full house of red, green and blue, and black is nothing at all.

A filter of a particular colour only lets through the components of that colour. So a red filter only lets through red light and stops green and blue, a yellow filter lets through any red and any green but stops blue.

The elimination of colours happens on a component basis, so for example if you view a purple object (blue light and red light) through a yellow filter (transmits red light and green light but stops blue light) then the result will be that the object will appear red through the viewfinder (blue-and-red minus blue equals red). The object will be approximately half as bright as before because half of its light (the blue component of the purple light) has been eliminated. The result will be a darkening of that object in a final black and white image, relative to other objects whose light is transmitted unchanged (yellow objects, in this example).

The importance of this for b&w photography is that although the final image is always just shades of grey, using filters you can selectively increase and decrease the brightness of different objects in the scene according to their colour. This selectivity is quite limited however; all objects of a given colour will be affected the same way. So the best use of these filters is usually for subtle changes to the contrast or "feel" of an image by exploiting any broad themes to the colours in the scene. Examples are skies, with their simple blue/white theme, and the fields in this image, with it green/yellow theme.

To get a general feel for the red/green/blue nature of light and how filters work, load up some colour images in photoshop and choose Image/Adjust/Channel Mixer from the menu. Click the "Monochrome output" (or whatever it's called) option and play with the mixer sliders for red green and blue. Set all three sliders to zero and then add in each component separately to see its contribution to the b&w output.
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movie-wizard Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2002   Photographer
Lots of detail. Cool shot!
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amphex Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2002
Your descripition sounds about right to me =) (Smile) I need to get an orange filter..just bought my red 25 filter and having fun with that though =) (Smile)
And great shot..I love the lighting of it too.
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ash Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2002
Well I'm no expert on this, so I'm open to correction from anyone.

An orange filter is kind of a weak red filter. A red filter, as you may know, is often used in b&w photography to increase contrast in skies. It only works on skies with some blue and some white. The blue parts become darkened (because the filter removes blue light) while the white parts remain light (because they contain lots of red as a component of the white).

They also have the effect of darkening green foilage slightly (not completely because most foilage isn't a very saturated green and so still contrains a fair amount of red) and deepening shadows. The shadow deepening effect is the result of the fact that shadows are lit primarily by "skylight" (light from the sky), which has a blue hue, whereas sunlit features are lit by the sun (no shit) which has a slightly yellow (and hence red) hue.

I often use a red or orange filter on skies. I find red can be a bit overdramatic so I often use orange. The red filter sky is something of a cliche in b&w photography and should probably be used with care.

Here I've used the orange filter to accentuate the contrast between the yellow grass (which contains red and so is lightened) and the green plants and trees (which basically don't and so are darkened). I like the otherwordly quality of it, but I can see I'm in danger of overdoing it; I should probably get a yellow filter.

Hope that helps and thanks for asking.
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tralla Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2002
Interesting photo. The tree's in the upper part of the photo almost looks like clouds to me, I'm guessing the sun was low : )
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kipton Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2002
I love it...great contrast, and I like the different lines in it...I add this to my favs :) (Smile)
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acrophile Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2002   Photographer
Nice shot ash... I could probably look this up, but what does the orange filter to for ya?

I dig the lighting too... also dig the shrubs/trees in the upper half... it's like their all gathered together and staring at you...
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