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I want to thank everyone for their great comments on my eye study in graphite, if you had questions I tried my best to answer them, as always I'm truly grateful to have all of you take a look, fav the work and give some comments.  There is always a few who think I'm a fraud.  It doesn't piss me off but makes me wonder if  it's  the same ilk that think aliens built the pyramids, like we humans are not capable of dedication, drive and knowledge to further and advance our craft and crating great things. The bigger question; I can't figure out why one would lie and stick a fraud on DA in the first place… to what end.  

Anyway thanks to all my friends here on DA for ten years I always appreciate the conversations, questions and best wishes- I even like the debates that happen form time to time, calling me a liar…not so much

Armin

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JAMsEye Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, those denying humans' abilities to stun must also be convinced there are fools enough who post fakes on a public place. At least [they might think] they're consistent in their way of thinking. You know, «everyone else is so stupid», I guess... :no:

There once was a French writer who said «nothing's more voluptuous to a non-idiot than being taken for an idiot by an idiot». By the way exposing one's art publicly is also being exposed to such reactions. Maybe it's impossible to get the former apart from the latter.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
true, reactions all all over the place and i get great pleasure out of all of them even the once im talking about
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JAMsEye Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I couldn't agree more. That is indeed the best you can do.
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leftD Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012
I don't even believe you wrote this journal :p

Seriously though, just take it as a compliment. You're the master and we all appreciate the inspiration.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
LOL, actually i don't exist at all
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Immy-is-Thinking Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
It is an inspirational and aspirational drawing to me. I think it is peoples own lack of patience that makes them doubt people can achieve drawing like this. I hope i can get there one day :B

Wishing you less bad comments and all the gin and lemon cake a bloke could want.
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Shelfcloud Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Who was it this time? And I thought I was pissing you off LOL!

I've been accused for loads of things... I wouldn't even waste my time. As for the stupid people who find art when it is only their league: just dogma. Creation can be traditional, digital or whatever. People need to see that there exist more than ones own cornerstone of art. Luckily they don't talk to me either, most they don't fave my work because they don't like me, which again leaves room for art and to do whatever I want.

These comments Armin, are just not contributive. People who talk to me this way, get a permanent block. People always think something and there is always something that is created in their malcontent, hiding behind "freedom of opinion" and say "I'm honest", but not likely to take any honesty back. The truth is always a world where everyone has to agree with THEM. You're creating and sharing a piece of yourself; we viewers should feel privileged. If someone does not take it: THEIR problem. If they don't like it, they just look the other way.

So I just bounce back the advice you give me once: "common, you're bigger than that!".
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
yeah Mike i get it, but it inst that the comments bothered me that much after all with almost ten years on DA Ive heard it many many times. Is a topic of discussion; when someone calls you a liar just because of their lack of knowledge about drawing and photography , not even bothering to look at your page, just call the guy a fake and be done with it. Honestly Mike im not offended nor do i even bother to think about it...much. the reason i posted it in my journal was to pose the question, why are we getting more skeptical and why do we (society as a whole)think theirs a boggy man around ever corner tying to rip us off. You hear it in the political arena all the time cynicism is the norm and im not immuned to it either. these three people have the right to believe whatever the want just as i now have the right to use their lack of knowledge to discuss the topic of mistrust on art forums.
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Shelfcloud Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well I was reading your responds a little too; I just understood from you, you were quite upset about the brutal statements of you being called a liar. That's why my respond. It is simply not true as gravity does not exists; I don't always agree with your (non)responds, but I'm not a saint either.

But it is simple: people should do art for themselves, not for others sake and to fulfill some stupid status "high gifted and intelligent", as it happens to be convenient they like to draw and shit on everything else that is not the thing they create.

There is no norm to be cynical, only we choose to be cynical, cause it is easy than admitting. Politics? that is the environment to be cynical in a "neat" way... But art...you should be yourself!
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NatalieLizzie Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012   General Artist
I am glad to see you are still here, showing us your wonderful work, and continuing to inspire many people, including myself. I'm sorry some people are so jaded that they think that everything beautiful must then be fake. I, for one, just think that you're brilliant and years of practice and work have paid off. So, again, thanks for sharing.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
:)
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pat-mcmichael Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Armin, I've been drawing for a long time...several years before home computers were even an idea. ( I'm sure this is the same for you). I've never been accused of FRAUD until the invention of home PC's and Photoshop!!! Digital trickery is so rampant and common place now that MANY people refuse to believe artists can still create things by hand! Personally, I prefer to hold a tangible, actual original in my hands as proof to all non believers. It sucks having to defend or validate our hard work in this digital age.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
yeah your right Pat and like i said this doesn't ruin my day, but i wanted to point out how mistrusting we are becoming because people do this kind of crap in the first place. I guess if i ever posted a work of realism and someone didn't say i was a fraud i would be disappointed as well.............LOL
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MidnightTea7 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
I can't figure out why one would lie and stick a fraud on DA in the first place…</sub>

^^; Unfortunately, Internet - and dA - is full of frauds, especially those who think that taking a photo (or someone else's work), throwing a filter and perhaps modifying it a bit can pass as "original artwork", drawn by hand and all that. Like some guy I fund out lately that steals photos of celebrities, sears a few brushes on them and even SELLS this stuff or a very well-known girl that got caught up assembling pieces of someone else's works into collages which she then overpaints over and keeps insisting that every work she's done is fully drawn by her: [link]
Funniest thing is that many people fall for that - not everyone has an eye trained enough to see what is real and what's not therefore they either think something is original or deem everyone frauds.... But there are also many people who just *want* to find someone who is a fraud for the sake of sport or drama (often they don't even have bad intentions... though some others do), and of course we cannot forget about those who simply feel jealous :P
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
sure your right there is a lot or this but there is lot more true craftsmanship and honest attempt at making art. I know three "drawers" out there and not even on DA who are fakes, yet they can never show there work nor can they sell it except for prints, i guess that why i never got into the whole print thing. five years ago i had my Occasional Angle drawing copped and it won first place in a show in Illinois, when it was in the news it was recognize right away as a copy and the "artist" got stripped of the award and thrown out of the show. Gee how flattering was that, like they say "you know you famous when a crazy person thinks he is you"...LOL
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MidnightTea7 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012  Professional General Artist
True that, however.... most folks on the Internet don't even think about displaying their works in real galleries or winning contests with them - a considerable portion of them is happy enough to either gain some attention or earn some money through selling prints or other cheap (well, not so cheap, like in the whole The Art4Love/Chad Liebermann plagiarism scandal) merchandise.
It's also true for dA where most - at this point - are teenagers, hobbyists and people who... well... let's be honest here - know relatively little of what art is or can be.
Not to mention that abuse of digital media is, unfortunately, widespread and there are a lot of people who don't see it as a legitimate medium that requires at least some skill to use. The digital artists suffer with each fraud exposed the most, however it also ricochets in anyone who deals with realism.
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AreYouBush Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you Teanah for the link. I can not believe what I saw.
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AreYouBush Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
And even if it was fake. I enjoy watching your works. This is the most important.

We want more of your fake ;)
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
im doing the Mona Lisa next, you know i really painted that when i was a kid, right?
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AreYouBush Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)I am excited to see the result!

I receive the same kind of comment (it's paintover)here [link]
The funniest is that it's a hobby for me (I do not make money with that.) and the result is not good (i'm a beginner).
But some people can not understand that we try to reproduce a REFERENCE as ACCURATELY as possible.

Sorry, my english is bad.Thank you google!

P.S: i wait for Mona Lisa
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
well your English is great, i was born in Germany and still speak, read and understand it quite well but spelling no so good, its no even good in English
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AreYouBush Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lol thank you.

I live in Germany but I'm French.

Your father was a soldier?
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
yeah he was, a German soldier who was captured by the Americans and spent the two years in New Mexico as a POW, a lot better then getting your ass shot off i must add. he learned to draw because he was board and became a full time artist and moved along with me and my mother to the States when i was seven. Ive been back to Germany many times (Studied Art in Dusseldorf)and spent time in France love both places. but most of all i love my studio whatever the county out side of it is
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AreYouBush Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am a French soldier stationed in Germany. Therefore, I thought it was a soldier. I'm glad he was able to rebuild his life. And I agree with your last sentence. Regardless of the country, that's what we do in this country that matters.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
:)
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dalexa Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
wait, what? do people call you a liar or a fraud?

oh the jealousy... just ignore them.
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Simzzzz Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I read some of the comments regarding your eye drawing ( which is superb just like the rest of your drawings, I'm a big admirer )
I found it very funny that someone mentioned the exif data !! are they really that clueless ? just shows how uneducated in art and realist art some people are, but this unfortunetly is the new internet generation where they think they can leave any remarks they want without any reasearch or knowlege to back it up.

keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing more drawings from you.
best wishes
Simon
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
well i don't want to single out anyone this person think they just uncovered a scam, if you look at any of my realistic post someone has always mentioned the camera thing, like they caught you with your hand in the cookie jar, again it doesn't piss me off but makes me aware how mistrusting some people are
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zhaomeng Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Filmographer
The age of internet breeds ignorance, don't you think. We used to understand that there are always greater talent out there, and learn to appreciate those craft and wonders when we come across them. Now a bunch of kids think that they knew everything because they have google and runs amok spewing garbage.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
yeah you right but "kids" have always gone against the grain that their job. only now its instant and worldwide
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engelszorn Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
You don't know why people would upload frauds? To make money, to get famous or because they don't know any better. There are maymany reasons I could add to that list...

Deviantart is not a community of artists - sad as it is. I think it's... more a community of creative people. And if I have a really bad day, than it's not even that, then it's just a myspace-clone and the hunt for the most favs, watchers and points is what defines an artist in a lot of deviants minds even if they would not admit that.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
even if you pulled a game on DA and faked it you eventually you have to show it, sell it and then your screwed. Even if you succeed in selling prints, you can make more wearing a paper hat pushing fries. And if its an ego thing, how can you feel good if its all steeped in lies, i don't know it make very little sense to me
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engelszorn Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Exactly, still a fellow deviant caused quite a scandal when people found out she was ripping off other artists by cutting their art apart, recreating the pieces into her personal art - claiming the results to a be her own paintings. Her gallery is still online and she still showcases her art in international exhibitions, still sells artbooks, calendar and other merchandise made via arttheft and fraud. And people STILL love and defend her. She isn't the only case, other artists with similar styles were found out as well. I find those actions to be absolutely inexcusable, but what can you?

Comparing your art, your personal history with those thieves is... I can't put it in the right words. Perhaps it has to do with the internet opening the world for people who only consume but can't be bothered to think beyond that concept.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
well if people copy work and transforms the work, gives credit to the original creator of it i have no problems with it. That has been done before the internet, even before cameras. But for someone to say this is an Oil painting and to find out its wall digital then its a misrepresentation
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engelszorn Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
True, I don't have a problem if it's collage and treated as such, but most of the time these people do not give credit where it's due and lie about the creative procress. And since their fans know next to nothing about digital art or art in general it's easy to decieve them. Even worse when those artists are found out and their fans don't care about the theft/plagiarism and encourage them to continue to work just like that. ah, I'm rambling... sorry :)
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KristofDeSaeger Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
Tss, that's a shame that people can not take the idea that some things are the real thing. Now, I must admit, your drawings look like they are not drawn. Its because you are a master a drawing realistic imagery (in my opinion), and some people probably just can not accept that a combination of a gift, and years of training can lead to these results....

Never mind them, and keep amazing us with your truly amazing drawings, not only are they a pleasure to see, it's also a motivation for hobbyist like me to further explore and improve my drawing skills.
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
they don't bother me in a personal sense, but i hate to see such skepticism. I never believed nor do i now that the more photographic a work is the better it is, my goal is to draw this way and still keep it form being just a technical experience and sill keep its soul alive.
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KristofDeSaeger Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
I agree with you, I never bothered on drawing realistic, until I started drawing again 4 months ago, after a pause of 10 years. Drawing realistic is now something I want to achieve, as it brings more challenge to myself. The difference between my images now, and earlier are big, but not in my eyes. I must admit that my old work almost get no hits, while the more realistic ones do... So I guess realistic is just more popular to the viewers... and therefore more heavy for criticism??

I like your end sentence 'keep its soul alive' :D
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arminmersmann Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
that's like when i show my abstract work, its sits here like a lox. In a way i understand that as well and i will always "go back" to abstraction or stylization...thanks
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nikz87 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Those who say 'u r a fake'. itz just foolish critisism!! And they don't understand to what levels the realism in art can reach!!

Keep drawing !! we are awaiting more masterpieces from you!! :)
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Daniel-Storm Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012
Yeah...i have had some of that fraud stuff too, and my work is not nearly as good as yours...yet. :)
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Kamakru Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012
That's a shame people think like that, as they're unable to really appreciate the art for what it is: the result of years of dedication, commitment, and passion for art.
I think as a possibility they only question the work because of the great amounts of digital and image copy/reproduction/editing technology we have today. It's still no excuse for someone to dismiss even the possibility that yes, a real person actually drew it. I mean, if you look at some of the portrait paintings such as William-Bohemienne's Portrait de Gabrielle Cot, it's so realistic but that's all in the paint app there, no shortcuts!
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TeresaClark Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
As you say, "there's always a few".

I would stick to the zillion nice comments (if anything, I would be a bit tired of answering the same things that are already in the drawing description, all over hehe)
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MorgaineA Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
meh
Do not worry about the nay sayers. We love your art and you.
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noisrevortni Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist
If some people think your a fraud, then they are fools. There are so many things attached to that thought process that just scream ignorance.
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jyongyi Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Good on you to put them in the same category as conspiracy theorists because people only do that because they wanted to be complicated and refuse to look at what's in front of them. I just want to say, I'm really inspired by your eye drawings to do something similar, because your eye drawings embodied the truth of a particular phrase that the eyes are the window to the soul=)
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wingsofdragons Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
your an amazing artist......some people can't see it and
have to say this to you.
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BOYKINS Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
you're that DAMN good that people cant even process it correctly!!lmao.

haters going to hate i guess
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Wicked-Illusion Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very sorry to hear about this. :noes: It's seems that even almost a decade on dA, gallery full of works and WIPs, close ups, many photo "proofs", a website and whatnot isn't enough of proof for people who dare to call you a fraud. God forbid you're exceptionally good at something...Also, we who have been following your works for years and the whole dA community, how could we all be so stupid and blind and in 9 years not see you're fraud ccccc. :rofl: It's understandable people might have doubts when someone is as good artist as yourself, but you can go around accusing people without a solid proof.... Just what consequences that can have for artist's reputation, credibility and everything and also hurt the real artists and make them remember the negative feedback whenever they look at the work in question.
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meihua Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012
Exactly what I was going to say :thumbsup: The naysayers need only look at his gallery to see that he's not faking it.
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