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PetaKillsAnimals -course work- by Archaleus PetaKillsAnimals -course work- by Archaleus
For design class. I basically had to re-work an original poster that i found interesting and controversial.

Knowing the amount of support PETA get (and the amount of crap i got from other students for submitting it) it obviously worked lol.

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PETA does kill animals...and i understand of the medical experiments but i must say that behind those locked doors not all scientist is good just like not all scientist are evil! I see both sides of the coin. Of course there are experiments that are necessary just as there are experiments that are not necessary (makeup anyone?).

As for the "bad scientist i mentioned above, i mean those who do idiotic experiments and claim to be "useful" or "necessary" example: Slapping the dog in the face and calling it a B***, or opening a cats brain and throwing acid in his eyes to compare it with crib death... Those are example of what i mean when I'm against experiments.

And again I am totally against PETA and I am also an animal lover and fight for animal rights but PETA only focuses on changing peoples diet and not helping animals.

much love :blackrose: :heart: SFND
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dragonfli Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
QUESTION:

If you were told your entire family and anyone you hold near and dear to your heart(including your pets) were going to be tortured in labs for years AND it would definitely cure AIDS would you do it? Keep in mind AIDS is a preventable disease and your family would endure extremely painful experiments BUT good news is, the world would be free from AIDS.

You must see the whole picture. No living creature should have to endure severe pain, no matter what the results may be. If someone came up to you today and said "you have special genetics that is likely to cure aids! all we need to do is practice cruel experiments on you, give you aids, try to cure it, etc" I Know for a fact you wouldn't do it so why should any innocent creature have to?

What if a species from another planet came to earth and used humans as lab rats to cure diseases of their species? Clearly you would be ok with it and surrender your rights because they are above you and deserve to find cures for their species for that reason alone. I bet you disagree with that and probably won't even think about it, as most hypocrites do. You have to realize might does not = right.
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Archaleus Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
Ok firstly the question you ask is flawed. One minute i have special genes to cure aids the next i need to be infected so you can try to cure it.

If it was proven that i could significantly increase the chance of curing a major disease then yes, i'd allow my genes to be used. 1 life isn't as nearly important as millions.

A lot of your questions are what ifs.

The bottom line is that animal research provides us with a means to cure horrible illnesses.
Personally, and you can call me insane for this, if 1 million mice die in the course of finding a cure for Cancer...i think i'll be able to live with it knowing billions of humans will be spared agonising illnesses.

If you want to consider the life of a lab rat equal to, or greater than, a sick child then that's up to you. But i know if you had kids and animal research increased the liklihood of your child being cured of a life ending illness you'd be all for it.
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dragonfli Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
No, it's not. I gave you different scenarios as examples but perhaps you can only handle one at a time? Just ask and i will make it simple for you.

No, not offering your genes, offering your ENTIRE self for experimentations until you either die, become to ill to keep alive OR provide a cure. Mice with anti-cancer cells don't get to just give their cells up.

OH so if there was just a CHANCE, well you better get yourself over to a lab ASAP. Did you know if you go donate yourself to a cancer experiment theres a huge CHANCE they will make major progress. What are you waiting for? Oh thats right you love your life and avoid pain at all costs but it's perfectly fine to cause that pain to others right? Because youre better than them? Yeah. Hypocrite.

All the questions are what ifs! lmao

The bottom line is its completely unnecessary.
Billions of humans that result in the death of thousands of wild animals, yeah great. There's a reason humans get cancer, it's not a natural occurrence, it can be prevented. They already cured cancer in mice and guess what? Didn't help humans at all, good news is all mice are cured! Mice experience pain just like any child does.

Notice how you completely avoided the question about the tables being turned. A highly intelligent species could very well land on this world and your brain would be equally to that of a mouse in comparison. So that makes it okay to experiment on you right? It amazes me how cruel people are.
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Archaleus Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
If in some way i was able to cure a major disease by giving my body to science then yes i would do it. I said as much in my reply.

Incidentally i've been in two medical trials. One that involved a very painful bone marrow exam.

Yes your questions are what ifs, they are hypothetical and extreme. Mice have no notion of family and thus you can't apply human emotions when considering the thoughts a mouse a has on it's prediciment.

Actually the mice trials did help humans. Where do you think the medicine to cure current forms of cancer comes from. It's tested on animals from the results of prior animal testing. Duh.

Notice how you completely avoided the question about if you were to have a child? OMGZ!?

Your questions about aliens is just about as warped and off topic as you could get.

You've created a parodox that doesn't exist and more than likely won't ever exist to get a point across that holds as much weight as PETAs "your daddy is a murderer" and "anti-milk adverts.
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dragonfli Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
As often as Herman had witnessed the slaughter of animals and fish, he always had the same thought: in their behavior toward creatures, all men were Nazis. The smugness with which man could do with other species as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principle that might is right. — Isaac Bashevis Singer
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dragonfli Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
So please go do it.

haha medical trials, hardly the same.

Prove mice have no notion of family. You can't. I used to own about 20 gerbils, they have a strong notion of family and fear, pain etc. If you can't apply human emotions than surely you cannot use mice to cure a HUMAN disease.

No, i'm speaking of the cure of cancer in mice which did not aid a human cure.

It wasn't a question OMGZ. If i had a child, and s/he were to get sick, i would not force hundreds, thousands, even millions to endure pain for the cure. Neither would i expect anyone to do the same for me. I would suck it up and die, its what we all have to do at some point. Accept it.

It's not off topic at all, perhaps too large for your brain. The concept is very simple. You, as a human, feel that since you are the most superior of the species that it gives you the right to treat lower species any way you please in order to serve your kind. Now if a species with an intelligence 500 times yours were to land here and felt using humans, the way you use animals, would help their species then it would be okay by your very own standards.

Is your daddy not a murderer when he eats meat? Surely he has to take some blame. It's just funny you refuse to see past yourself when it comes to animals yet you claim to be an animal lover. Please. If i cut up your dogs i don't think you would be too happy.
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Archaleus Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2007
Ok firstly the question you ask is flawed. One minute i have special genes to cure aids the next i need to be infected so you can try to cure it.

If it was proven that i could significantly increase the chance of curing a major disease then yes, i'd allow my genes to be used. 1 life isn't as nearly important as millions.

A lot of your questions are what ifs.

The bottom line is that animal research provides us with a means to cure horrible illnesses.
Personally, and you can call me insane for this, if 1 million mice die in the course of finding a cure for Cancer...i think i'll be able to live with it knowing billions of humans will be spared agonising illnesses.

If you want to consider the life of a lab rat equal to, or greater than, a sick child then that's up to you. But i know if you had kids and animal research increased the liklihood of your child being cured of a life ending illness you'd be all for it.
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monkeychris Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2007
Lol, thanks for the fave on my old piece, feel free to use it / pass it on!
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Archaleus Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2007
Thanks man ;)
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