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Dear Yes on Prop 8 Supporters

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Published: November 5, 2008
Dear Yes on 8 supporters,

Hey there. I’m going to go out on a limb here that most of you are feeling pretty proud of yourselves right now, patting each other on the back for your near victory of 3%. It must feel good to win huh? God knows I would be proud too if I woke up to find that my vote had such an impact on thousands upon thousands of people. I must say, I’d be pretty elated over the defeat of the US’s strides for separation of church and state, the victory over the very things our fore fathers fought and died for –the things our country was founded on, Yes, I have to say, I’d be pretty enthralled with myself for the devastation of an enormous group of people, but I’m not.

I’m not because I voted no to legal discrimination; no to the idea that a religiously founded belief and opinion should have any say in the legal constitution which rules over other people who may not have the same beliefs. I voted no because I felt there was a greater need for human equality and compassion than the whims of an organized religion that practices intolerance and promotes the sub-human treatment of a group of people. I voted no because I could not bring myself to believe in the hypocrisy of a love that would deny people fundamental rights supposedly granted to everyone.

But I suppose that doesn’t matter to you, does it?

Well I hope you’re happy with yourselves now. I hope you can look into the mirror and say how happy you are to emotionally devastate hundreds of thousands of people and their loved ones. I hope you can look in the mirror and say how proud you are to treat another group of people with substandard subhuman notions for reasons they cannot change. And I HOPE you can look at yourself and feel just FINE with the fact that your vote has such emotionally scarring ramifications that people (your neighbors, your coworkers, you family members and possibly friends) may never fully recover from this sort of thing.

I hope you can think about that and smile without flinching.

Take pride in being a bigot, because you are. Disagree? The definition of a bigot is a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion. Utterly intolerant, as in, so intolerant that you cannot stand to allow a marriage between two people you don’t even know who you don’t deem acceptable for your definition of marriage.  

And maybe you don’t understand the weight of what you’ve done because you were taught to believe that being different is NOT ok. Or maybe because you never had to fight for the same rights as your neighbor, your fellow US citizen.. your fellow human being.

But that’s no excuse.

What you have done was hurtful and inexcusable.  It was a choice based on unjust fear and selfishness. Fear of what you don’t understand and cannot relate to. Selfishness of worrying over what this means for you, what this might do to YOU or your soul instead of what this means for your fellow man and woman.

And don’t pretend this was for the children because 300 pediatricians told you otherwise. Because of your vote, children who are already being raised by gay parents now have their chance for an economically protected environment ruined. Children who had the chance to be adopted by gay married parents, who OBIVOUSLY wanted them more than their heterosexual birth counterparts, will now suffer as well.

And as for YOUR children…gay marriage was never going to be taught in schools and you knew it. The California super attendant for schools and the Teachers Associations told you so. This was never about church rights, everyone told you otherwise. In fact, just about every large newspaper, major company head, California leader as well our current (Obama) AND past (Clinton) US President told you it was WRONG and you voted for it anyway.

This was never about anyone but you and your fear.

Fear so strong that you would be willing to deny people the right to be above subhuman just to keep yourself “safe”. I have never seen a bigger hypocritical unprecedented discriminatory injustice short of the Rwanda genocide and the Hate crime killings in my time.

And don’t try and console me with domestic partnership because it is NOT the same a marriage. The term “marriage” isn’t just some fluffy term for us to throw around and parade about. It comes with legal power that domestic partnerships don't have Things like. A Domestic Partnership may be dissolved without court ruling under some circumstances. Federal tax returns filed separately. In a Domestic Partnership, you do not receive Social Security, veteran's benefits and pension plan survivor benefits upon death of partner. You're not guaranteed equal benefits from employers. Your insurance isn’t guaranteed to carry. You MUST share common residence.  You're excluded from long-term care benefits. You're not guaranteed family leave to care for ill partner.

Those are just to name a few of the things wrong with Domestic Partnership. Now, would YOU want a domestic partnership instead of a marriage if you knew that the domestic partnership could be dissolved if you ever decided to live under a different roof as your partner for whatever reason (work related or not)?

Would you want to have to wait 7 years in some cases before you’re even granted these simple rights?

I’m going to take a stab at this and say you wouldn’t. So if you wouldn’t revoke your marriage for a domestic partnership (or take a domestic partnership instead of a marriage) then why would you demand that of anyone else? You should never ask someone to do something you, yourself, are not willing to do.

That’s equality.  Justice, liberty and freedom for ALL. Not a few.

How dare you spit in the face of that because of something you feel is a sin.

You want to know what REAL sin is? REAL sin is taking away someone’s free agency – their right to choose.

If you take away someone’s right to choose to keep or not keep their processions (theft), that’s a sin. If you take away someone’s choice to fornicate with you or not (rape), that’s a sin. If you take away someone’s right to choose life or death (murder), that’s a sin.

And if you take away someone’s right to marry for no other good reason than you’re afraid, that’s a sin.

If the churches don’t want to sanctify the marriages, that’s their religious freedom. They don’t have to. If GOD doesn’t want to sanctify the marriages, then he/she won’t. But it is NOT your RIGHT to take away MY rights as a human being because you don’t agree with my life style which ISN’T hurting anyone else.

I have every right to marry who I love within reasonable standards. I have every right be as legally and financially safe as anyone else. I have the right to every one of those marriage privileges as anyone else and it’s being taken away from me. Not because I committed a crime. Not because I gave up my own free agency.

But because of my sexuality, because of something so fundamentally apart of myself that I cannot change it no matter what you say or do. No amount of therapy will change that.

This is human cruelty.

And I love my spouse just as much as the next person does, or should, and I’m proud to call her my wife. I want to tell everyone I’m happily married and I fought hard to be with her. I want the right to say I’m married, to go to the hospital and check the married section instead of having to check the single. To check married on my taxes instead of having to file single. To not HAVE to explain to my employer or anyone else how I can be married but still have to legally claim single.

I want my future children to be safe if something should happen to either of us. I want my possessions, my property, my belongings to be passed on to my spouse, my wife. Yes, I even want my insurance to carry.

And when the time comes for it, I want to be laid next to the one I loved when I am buried.

Now how could that possibly hurt you?


And don’t start your victory dance yet because while you may have succeeded in your cause, thus far, it is far from over. People will not lay down and go quietly when their basic rights are being threatened. People will not stand down when they have something as powerful as love to fight for. And they WILL fight for it. And they will endure it and they will, in the end, out last you.  Because their motive, my motive, is something humanity has been fighting for since its inception. And you cannot stop that.

So everyone who believes what I believe, let’s fight together. Let’s fight for love.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Winter
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DyingMarshmallows's avatar
I love how people against gay marriage wip out the "domestic partnership" bullshit. Lets try this on something else in history, so you say oh they don't really need a marriage lets just do something LIKE a marriage like domestic partnership! Well lets try it on women voting. we women don't really need to vote so lets to something LIKE voting, like suggesting! DOESN'T QUITE WORK NOW DOES IT?
Vulcade's avatar
VulcadeHobbyist General Artist
tl;dr
Yes I am proud
giygas1's avatar
i'm in virginia, and news of this INFURIATED me! i really wish i could help you, mrs. winter, you and your wife deserve the rioght to adopt children, i looked up gays raising children and it turns out(according to my research) parental sexuality does not effect the sexuality of the child, so the 'for the children argument' like this bill is pointless i'm sure my friends will agree with me, mrs. winter, i have concluded my rant in the comments, au revoir
LeanToThee's avatar
I... I have to share this. When Prop 8 was passed, I was in a difficult place, denying who I really was. I couldn't have voted on this (I was only 16 and didn't live in California), but I wish I could've sent my support. :(
SafariBear's avatar
SafariBearHobbyist Photographer
Not really my business, since I am not a US citizen, not even living there.
My business, because I am living on this planet, amongst too many idiots, I guess.

I agree with you. Over here in Germany, they also did some placebo marriage thing for the subhumans. They can marry. I think it even has a lot more legal power than what you write up there for your version of the placebo marriage. But it's still not the same.
Antiquity-Dreams's avatar
It's always comforting to hear there are like-minded people all over the world. It gives me hope that someday we, as the human race, can overcome stupidity and move forward as equals.
SafariBear's avatar
SafariBearHobbyist Photographer
Hmmmmm, you're an optimist :-D
Antiquity-Dreams's avatar
Sometimes. It's either that or cry a lot lol
zezazozo's avatar
zezazozoStudent General Artist
I was honestly shocked when Prop 8 was passed. At the time, I was living in Venice and had been seeing nothing but Anti-Prop 8 picket signs and bumper stickers for months. One of my best friends had come out to his parents only one year prior with no huge repercussions at all within his family or his social life, and my uncle living in Hollywood had just started dating a male model (who he is marrying in Africa next year). The 'yes' option seemed like a joke that was only there to appease the original petitioners.
(I live in the heart of the Bible Belt now -Texas- and god, even the smartest of people can just be so stupid about gay rights!)
StevenVsTheWorld's avatar
I only support gay marriage of white people. Blackies FUCKOFF
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dagoth-jeffHobbyist Writer
You must be joking, though it isn't remotely funny.
pudding510's avatar
pudding510Hobbyist Digital Artist
I totally agree with you :(
planetharmony's avatar
planetharmonyHobbyist General Artist
TESTIFY! WOO 1000% with you! I AGREE!! man you should them in that! yes i a agree! :love: LETS GO LOVE WHO U WANT TO!! YEAH! :love: :love:
trixief98's avatar
I'm not ggay but what u say is true u do deserve to have all the right strait men an women do ( I said strait bc I can't spell for shit) god gave us all a choice to do what we want if we are a free nation then they should us all not just gays not just straits but all of us have the freedom to marry who we want no matter what ur r gay or straight give us all the freedom we deserve as a person who lives in a so called free nation so give the gays the right to marry even if I don't like it it is ur right an I will fight along side all of u . Signed MR.DAVIS :)
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MayFlowerxxxHobbyist General Artist
I agree with everything in this! You should be able to love whoever you want and no one should be allowed to stop it!
MCRmyFrontlinerx's avatar
MCRmyFrontlinerxHobbyist Writer
I'm not gay, but I have several friends who are gay or bi and I support them all the way. I think it's ridiculous that people don't accept people into a community because of their sexual orientation.
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juli-chanHobbyist General Artist
Unfortunately, the people you are talking about use love as an excuse to treat people like crap. God doesn't hate anyone. People hate, and use God as an excuse. It's funny that a religion based on loving and accepting people can be used in such a way. And the sad thing is these people don't realize their actions cause other people to move away from God, which is the very thing they are trying to prevent.

There is no reason to prevent two grown, consenting humans from being together or having the rights everyone else has. It's devastating that we allow our "free" country to be run in such a way. Things that are beautiful and beneficial are deemed illegal just because it's a socially moral no-no based solely on religion and misunderstandings. Which is supposed to be against the law. I guess it's okay when the government does it, though.
OrangeAPPLZ's avatar
When I saw the vid I cried. I'm not gay but I have no problem with gays. I think my mom has a problem though. I'm not like other 11 year olds, every stupid kid I know hates gay people.
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The-UnavengedProfessional General Artist
I love this and I agree with you fully. Can you send me the link to the you tube video? I would love to watch it. You can send me a not if you do not want to post it on here.
Sasunarukitsune's avatar
it give me tears , in france we can't married too , i hope that soon you can be married
RisetoFall's avatar
I agree with you so much. I live in England and I still think that it is a really bad thing to have happened. You should be able love whoever you want without people getting really annoyed.
What you wrote is really well written and you express everything that I want to in an amazing way.
Ashkarazi's avatar
Absolutely amazing. You took all of the negative feelings I, and many others, have ever had about legislature like this and put it into something eloquent and heartfelt. Always keep fighting.
Tsaoman's avatar
I'm so sorry for you loss :(

Prop 8 always reminds me of this quote: "The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary. Men alone are quite capable of every wickedness" -Joseph Conrad.

It's truly amazes and disgusts me on what horrible things we're capable of...
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