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Gohan VS Kefla MANGA 39 by AlejandroDBS Gohan VS Kefla MANGA 39 by AlejandroDBS
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PrinceGohan227 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2018  Hobbyist Filmographer
This is epic
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yusuke96 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2018
I loved this chapter so much. Thanks for the coloring. Kind of wish Potarra wasn't changed and that Kefla not only became a permanent fusion, but also maybe even a rival for Gohan. That could've been awesome and also would prevent him from allowing himself from getting soft again.
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godjacob Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago
Ah yes make Kefla a complete joke just to give Gohan some more jerking. Maybe Kefla can practically suck universe 7 off again while they train as the manga already had her admit she was a loser who couldn't win. This way we get more damage. 
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yusuke96 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
I just thought that Kefla in the manga was a bit more level headed and better at reading her situation than a so called loser which would make her a better balance of Kale and Caulifla. Plus, I feel that she would've been an awesome recurring character if she was going to get to be permanent. 

Funny coincidence, my name is actually Jacob as well. :)
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godjacob Featured By Owner 6 days ago
There's a difference between "reading the situation" and being "level headed" then practically sucking off your opposition which is what she did. Imagine if Vegeta had a similar moment of "reading the situation" and admitted he was no match for Jiren and his destiny to fall to the "almighty" Universe 11 and accept she was going to lose and just die. It's pure character assassination, and if the manga made her a permanent reoccurring character it would only have shat on her all the more. It's a disgraceful presentation, even if you ignore losing a fight she had no business losing which wasn't even what upset me the most. Manga Kefla is a self admitted loser, that is how she was portrayed. 

And huh, funny coincidence XD
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yusuke96 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Yeah, I might be inclined to agree that the almighty Universe 7 line was them going a little too far, but not enough for me to outright hate manga Kefla, in fact I like her better than anime Kefla. (at least the bits that I saw, I'm waiting for the English Dub)
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godjacob Featured By Owner Edited 6 days ago
I don't see how that is possible. Even if you hate her scaling, at least Kefla was her own character with pride and competitiveness rather than just a Universe 7 cheerleader and Gohan's bottom bitch.
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yusuke96 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
1) Her and Gohan seemed about equal and that is still saying a lot since manga Gohan has been training in the background longer and more consistently than his anime counterpart. 
2) The reason why I like her in the mange is because she exhibits a lot of Kale's qualities in addition to Caulifla's which I feel is a more complete fusion. Maybe manga Kefla just has a little self doubt leak from Kale's side in that instant.
3) Again, I'm waiting for the English Dub so I only know a little bit about her anime counterpart. I could be blown away later down the line, but I can speak for what I've seen and can infer. I'm sorry if I'm a little ignorant because I can't stand their Japanese voices when I'm used to Funimation.
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godjacob Featured By Owner 5 days ago
1. Actually it says a lot less about Kefla. Kale herself was strong enough to thrash Golden Frieza, pressure Mastered Super Saiyan Blue Goku and nearly ring out Mastered Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta. Her fused counterpart (Who should be multiple times stronger) however ends up tying with Gohan, who is weaker than any of them. It only makes Gohan look impressive at Kefla's expense, and Gohan actually trained for less time than his anime counterpart as anime Gohan began to train after the Frieza battle. Plus fighting aside, Gohan mouthed off Kefla about relying on Saiyan blood while he "evolved as a human" (Which makes no sense given Gohan is only worth while because of his Saiyan blood) and Kefla only verbally sucks off Gohan and universe 7. Even if they were in power portrayed as equals, that is far from true for characterization. 
2. You can do this without taking the absolute worst traits of one and making it dominant just to exemplify how pathetic a character is. Which is what they did to Kefla. Besides, Kale was supposed to have gotten over her self-confidence issue by this point though her experience but it seems they shafted her development in this regard. Much like they removed all of Caulifla's sympathetic traits. 
3. Fair enough. It's a preference thing with dub vs. sub and you have a right to follow your preferred type here. 
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DBZFAN1576 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2018
AWESOME. Do you take requests?
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AlejandroDBS Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Si
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ReyFearsPsciosis Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2018
Toyotaro sucks. Nerfed the fuck out of Kefla. 

Not just her but plenty of others. The anime TOP blows the manga version out of the water due to being much more detailed and fleshed out.
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Dewottthesniper Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That is but an opinion
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godjacob Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Nah, Kefla being nerfed to hell is objective fact. All for cheap Gohan fan-service (Which wasn't even good, given their fight was off panel). 
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Dewottthesniper Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Still an opinion
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godjacob Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Kefla being nerfed is not an opinion. She went from needing Ultra Instinct to take her out to being Gohan's bitch. 

My opinion would be saying this chapter was character assassination of Kefla. Not just the loss, but her admitting she is basically a loser and has no chance to win. That's an opinion, though not an unreasonable one. 
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Dewottthesniper Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I dont read the manga so I got a neutral opinion
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godjacob Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Fair enough. I'd say read the manga to form your own opinion, even if I am not a personal fan. Especially the ToP arc. 
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el-maky-z Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2018
O Toyotaro a puesto a Gohan muy OP, o a nerfeado bastante a Kefla (con respecto al anime me refiero) porque sino no se explica que Gohan pueda pelear a la par de ella...
Por cierto, buen coloreo =)
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VarricTethas Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2018
Kefla esta demasiado nerfeada en el manga. Gohan nunca deberia haber podido luchar a la par con ella, sobretodo despues de que Kale casi echa fuera a Toppo y a Vegeta.
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StacyAdler Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
¡Muy buen coloreado!
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