Well, it seems like the adult lionesses of the Pride realize how dangerous Scar could potentially be vs the young ones who don't quite get it yet.
I have a feeling the only Southland survivor is Zira sadly. I don't think she'd be walking with the hyenas all alone if there were others, unless they hid in a cave or ran away?
True. She took Akina's advice and it backfired in a scary way. And because she's been manipulated to believe that it's her fault, she's going to likely pin the guilt onto Akina, so that she can feel less guilty about Endesha dying indirectly because she disobeyed Scar.
I know everyone is probably looking at Akina and Zira's very likely fight about how this all went down, but i'm curious if Sarafina is gonna click and realise Scar killed Moyo - heck, he did this to his daughter's love just to get some control, no doubt she'd realise he manipulated her heavily too
and then likely gonna accidentally spill that she's not in love with him, oopsie?
I had the exact same idea. When Sarafina realizes the monster that Scar has become, particularly his killing of Moyo, she's gonna snap and reveal she never loved him, maybe even say to him that Moyo was the love of her life not him. She may even pull a Sarabi and compare Scar to Moyo. Than Scar out of anger, will kill her or maybe have someone else do it for him?
I doubt Zira would do that, though I believe Nala's departure will be from Sarafina learning about Moyo's demise, and perhaps letting it slip she doesn't love Scar (Sarafina did mention this a while ago, mentioning that if Scar found out she really wasn't into him that Nala should run before it got worse):
I feel that Scar probably wouldn't be able to kill off Mheetu, being the son from someone he did love (so likely they'd be banished or something along the lines, perhaps they both run), and so Zira would definitely avoid this action too, or else she'd risk making things worse for herself in light of the Southland Pride's eradication:
I'm not a cub killer, that was your job, remember?
Again, just what i've taken on board - a lot of people are jumping on Zira killing Scar's kid, her half-brother, despite the fact she's being broken mentally and emotionally right now due to her doing something for herself. For that reason I don't see her killing Mheetu.
But we shall seeee, i could be wrong!
Interesting points. I think the theory of Zira killing her half brother is mostly centered around the idea that she's alike her father in a lot of ways, she even inherits his sins, so to speak. Scar killed a family member for power, he suffered willingly and ruined his own future because of something he did himself whether accidentally or on purpose, getting Ahadi killed while fighting with Mufasa, hence he guilt trips him, and with the violent and most unstable circumstances Zira's grown up in since the Eastlands, I could see her doing the same thing, hell, she actually blamed Kovu for killing his brother, so maybe it's something personal to her? kinda like how Scar blamed Zira for the Southlands slaughter, or blamed Simba for the stampede, I noticed this family seems to dodge responsibility for things they actually were involved in, as if to throw the shame on someone else so they don't have to feel bad.
And while Zira did say that she wouldn't harm cubs, I'm not so sure if that's true in the future, after all, it took Ahadi's death for Scar to snap and kill his brother, the more insane Zira becomes, the more she may be willing to resort to cruelty. In the film she's a pure sadist and is extremely passionate in the idea of hurting others, even if she doesn't end up murdering Mheetu, I have a firm belief she would be very abusive and mean to him for being the chosen one, kinda like Nuka's jealousy of Kovu, I think she would get very competitive and train Nuka to rival him, but because he's too weak or fails to perform, she gets rid of the competition, so that her offspring becomes king. It sounds like something she'd do out of desperation in my opinion. What do you think?
Yes, In all honesty. While Zira was still sane (albeit frustrated and bitter), I could believe she wouldn't have laid a claw on her half brother. But the Zira from SP certainly would, and while Zira is currently depressed and guilt ridden now, really soon she's going to reach that level of insanity we see in the movie.
- Your ideas do make sense, especially with Zira snapping further down the line - sure she may not kill Mhetu with her mid set right now but later? Especially giving her attitude to death in TLK2.
Still, she didn't harm Scar directly by following her heart and a whole pride got killed and she got blamed - killing Mheetu would no doubt go against everything Scar has broken her mind to do - follow him to the end. Mheetu being his heir, and with Nala protecting him, Zira would know better than to harm Mheetu directly.
Zira would definitely be cruel to her own but it would take a LOT for her to go against Scar personally, especially after this manipulating ordeal.
As it stands, I don't see Zira going down the Mheetu-killing road, though who knows? I'll happily eat my own words if she does kill Mheetu haha
- As for paragraph 2, I think she'd likely get it in his head that he's not good enough, likely using tactics Scar has used on her, like father like daughter (like you've pointed out, this i like the idea of).
I think Zira would find a way to make it look like someone else was responsible - Mheetu, let's say, got into an accident and Zira says Nala should've been watching him better, diverting the blame like she would learn from Scar - dundundun
Lots of factors here and I love hearing people's brains at work
Huh. That's actually a good point that I didn't really think about. Harming Mheetu would dishonor Scar. But if she played it off like an accident then she could escape exile or death. Scar would skin her alive if he knew she was responsible for the loss of his heir... Imagine this. Because Zira disobeyed him and had a cub with Endesha, he punishes Zira by letting Mnyama take advantage of her and forces her to raise the cubs born from the incident. That would drive her mad for sure!
I actually think Zira will kill Akina at Scar's orders before Mheetu, something to get her used to the idea of murder and to make her realize how easy it is. She hasn't yet killed on her own accord, so it makes you wonder what her first kill will be, she's gonna have a lot of skeletons in the closet, literally dead family members here and there. And I bet she's gonna get so unstable and violent in her means to keep Scar's attention focused on her, and the deaths will be justified in her mind because of the miserable life she suffered.